Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc
On 01/02/2014 21:38, Kevin Peat wrote: Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible tags. You're all wrong. It's a concert venue: http://www.gigwise.com/news/87744/kaiser-chiefs-to-perform-british-grand-prix-gig-at-silverstone---tickets ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc
> >I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield. > Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible tags. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc
I agree with Phil, stadium is stretching the point too. Jerry On 1 February 2014 21:11, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 20:41 +, Dan S wrote: > > leisure=stadium is appropriate for these? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium > > Stadium is not really appropriate for racing circuits like Silverstone. > A stadium implies an area surrounded by grandstands, which may be > appropriate in the US for NASCAR circuits, but not really for the open > circuits we have in the UK. > > I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield. > > Phil (trigpoint) > > > > > 2014-02-01 SK53 : > > > Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs I noticed that the > > > Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon > > > Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track. > > > > > > Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my > > > understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map > > > buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities > for > > > different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as > > > leisure=recreation_ground. > > > > > > Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make > sense to > > > any automated processing of tag values. > > > > > > I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually > > > degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of > sports_centre > > > means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like > access > > > to sports facilites by the general public. > > > > > > The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a > generic > > > landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've > noted this > > > before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas > of a > > > ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground. > > > > > > Any thoughts, > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > ___ > > > Talk-GB mailing list > > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc
On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 20:41 +, Dan S wrote: > leisure=stadium is appropriate for these? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium Stadium is not really appropriate for racing circuits like Silverstone. A stadium implies an area surrounded by grandstands, which may be appropriate in the US for NASCAR circuits, but not really for the open circuits we have in the UK. I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield. Phil (trigpoint) > > 2014-02-01 SK53 : > > Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs I noticed that the > > Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon > > Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track. > > > > Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my > > understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map > > buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities for > > different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as > > leisure=recreation_ground. > > > > Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make sense to > > any automated processing of tag values. > > > > I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually > > degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of sports_centre > > means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like access > > to sports facilites by the general public. > > > > The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a generic > > landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've noted this > > before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas of a > > ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground. > > > > Any thoughts, > > > > Jerry > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc
leisure=stadium is appropriate for these? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium Dan 2014-02-01 SK53 : > Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs I noticed that the > Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon > Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track. > > Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my > understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map > buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities for > different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as > leisure=recreation_ground. > > Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make sense to > any automated processing of tag values. > > I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually > degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of sports_centre > means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like access > to sports facilites by the general public. > > The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a generic > landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've noted this > before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas of a > ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground. > > Any thoughts, > > Jerry > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
