Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-04 Thread maning sambale
A couple more ideas on my head:

1. "More organized area mapping" - we conduct a monthly mapping event
(most likely virtual).  For example, for each month, we focus on a
certain area/city/town for mapping (roads, landuse, buildings other
features).  Of course we cannot label all road names unless we visit
the area.  This will the task of the local mapper.

2. "Q&A Mapping" - for a certain month or week, we focus on correcting
map errors by clearing map bugs (wrong tags, unconnected
intersections, missing labels, etc.)

3. "Feature mapping" - for a certain month or week we focus efforts on
a certain feature.  For example today is coastline mapping, we update
coastlines using either landsat or yahoo!.  Or a month/week for
landuse etc.

This way we can get measurable/visible updates as a group. Of course
this does not have to get in the way of your usual mapping activity.
Perhaps an hour would be alloted to the monthly mapping event?

What do you guys think?



On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Maning Sambale
>  wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 11:24 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 1. Declare Metro Manila "complete" (well, there are far too many
>>> ongoing real estate developments to completely map but the general
>>> areas should be done).
>>
>>
>> When we "stamped" an area "complete" we need to define what we mean by
>> complete.  We need to define a rough metric for "levels of
>> completeness".
>>
>> If roughly we say:
>> "All major roads (motorways, trunks and primarys) are mapped and labeled
>> and the data is usable for basic road navigation"
>>
>> Then I can say Metro Manila is complete.
>>
>> I think there are some proposed evaluation/measurements for completeness
>> in the OSM wiki we can use a framework for the Philippines.
>>
>> I propose we set "levels of completeness" like:
>> level 1 - all roads are mapped and labeled
>> level 2 - major POIs (fuel, schools, etc.) are mapped
>> level 3 - footways and paths
>> level 4 - landuse and buildings
>> etc.
>>
>> This kind of levels maybe too car-centric but it could be a start.
>
> This seems to be a good example for "completeness" or mapping status.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CALABARZON#Mapping_Status
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Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-04 Thread maning sambale
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Maning Sambale
 wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 11:24 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1. Declare Metro Manila "complete" (well, there are far too many
>> ongoing real estate developments to completely map but the general
>> areas should be done).
>
>
> When we "stamped" an area "complete" we need to define what we mean by
> complete.  We need to define a rough metric for "levels of
> completeness".
>
> If roughly we say:
> "All major roads (motorways, trunks and primarys) are mapped and labeled
> and the data is usable for basic road navigation"
>
> Then I can say Metro Manila is complete.
>
> I think there are some proposed evaluation/measurements for completeness
> in the OSM wiki we can use a framework for the Philippines.
>
> I propose we set "levels of completeness" like:
> level 1 - all roads are mapped and labeled
> level 2 - major POIs (fuel, schools, etc.) are mapped
> level 3 - footways and paths
> level 4 - landuse and buildings
> etc.
>
> This kind of levels maybe too car-centric but it could be a start.

This seems to be a good example for "completeness" or mapping status.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CALABARZON#Mapping_Status
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Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-03 Thread Maning Sambale
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 11:24 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 1. Declare Metro Manila "complete" (well, there are far too many
> ongoing real estate developments to completely map but the general
> areas should be done).


When we "stamped" an area "complete" we need to define what we mean by
complete.  We need to define a rough metric for "levels of
completeness".

If roughly we say:
"All major roads (motorways, trunks and primarys) are mapped and labeled
and the data is usable for basic road navigation"

Then I can say Metro Manila is complete.

I think there are some proposed evaluation/measurements for completeness
in the OSM wiki we can use a framework for the Philippines.

I propose we set "levels of completeness" like:
level 1 - all roads are mapped and labeled
level 2 - major POIs (fuel, schools, etc.) are mapped 
level 3 - footways and paths
level 4 - landuse and buildings
etc.

This kind of levels maybe too car-centric but it could be a start.

> 2. Blog more about OSM on my blog. I already have a few items on my
> list.
Keep it coming.

> 3. Philippines Meetup! (Not necessarily a mapping party.)
Yes! Schedule anyone?


> 4. More coordinated efforts.
> 
> 5. Establish a "welcoming committee" to welcome new OSMers to OSM
> Philippines. 

I actually have a standard message in my OSM outbox on welcoming new
users (some of you have received them).  I monitor new contributors
using the itoworld's osmmaper.  I will continue doing this "welcoming"
unless somebody's willing to take on the load.

Any hands?


> 6. I want to propose a couple of features for the OSM mapping
> features. I plan to develop them then present them to OSM Philippines
> for feedback and approval before presenting it to the general OSM
> community.

> So far, that's it. Of course, this list will be added to as the year
> progesses.
> 
> 
> Happy new year!
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene / seav
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Maning Sambale
>  wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Happy new year to all. 2008 for osm philippines is so good,
> but that's
> just so last year ;)
> 
> Any plans/goals for the next twelve months? Please share them
> here and
> maybe we can get it properly outlined as one group.
> 
> Maning's plans for 2009
> * I want our efforts to be a little bit "more organized".
> * "Declare" certain areas as "complete".
> * A meetup for OSM Philippines.
> * Map more, more, more areas
> 
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi,

Here's what I think about 2009 for OSM Philippines:

1. Declare Metro Manila "complete" (well, there are far too many ongoing
real estate developments to completely map but the general areas should be
done).
1.1 Makati CBD, Ortigas CBD, Cubao, Bonifacio Global City, Alabang has
complete maps (enough to compete with the commercial paper maps of Asiatype,
which I consider right now to have the best maps of Makati and Ortigas)
1.2 UP Diliman has complete public buildings (I once did a huge paper map of
the central campus back in college, complete with buildings and every
driveway and parking, so I plan to port it to OSM (well I started porting it
last week), and add the new buildings like the Science Education complex and
the Office of the University Registrar)
1.3 Upgrade the Metro Manila page on OSM Wiki so that it becomes a showcase
page for mapping status and documentation for other projects.

2. Blog more about OSM on my blog. I already have a few items on my list.

3. Philippines Meetup! (Not necessarily a mapping party.)

4. More coordinated efforts.

5. Establish a "welcoming committee" to welcome new OSMers to OSM
Philippines. Many of us are monitoring changes in the Philippines and if we
consistently see usernames editing, then we send a message to them to join
the mailing list and add themselves to the OSM WikiProject Philippines page.

6. I want to propose a couple of features for the OSM mapping features. I
plan to develop them then present them to OSM Philippines for feedback and
approval before presenting it to the general OSM community.

So far, that's it. Of course, this list will be added to as the year
progesses.


Happy new year!

Regards,
Eugene / seav


On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Maning Sambale
wrote:

> hi,
>
> Happy new year to all. 2008 for osm philippines is so good, but that's
> just so last year ;)
>
> Any plans/goals for the next twelve months? Please share them here and
> maybe we can get it properly outlined as one group.
>
> Maning's plans for 2009
> * I want our efforts to be a little bit "more organized".
> * "Declare" certain areas as "complete".
> * A meetup for OSM Philippines.
> * Map more, more, more areas
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> maning
> --
> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
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> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-03 Thread ian lopez
Add this: Some (serious mainstream) media exposure (blogs and social networking 
also recommended, just to bring our message across), more volunteers, and a 
mapping party by summer 2009, since everyone's on vacation mode at that time.

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Maning Sambale  wrote:
From: Maning Sambale 
Subject: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009
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Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:23 AM

hi,

Happy new year to all. 2008 for osm philippines is so good, but that's
just so last year ;)

Any plans/goals for the next twelve months? Please share them here and
maybe we can get it properly outlined as one group.

Maning's plans for 2009 
* I want our efforts to be a
 little bit "more organized".
* "Declare" certain areas as "complete".
* A meetup for OSM Philippines.
* Map more, more, more areas


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[talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009

2009-01-03 Thread Maning Sambale
hi,

Happy new year to all. 2008 for osm philippines is so good, but that's
just so last year ;)

Any plans/goals for the next twelve months? Please share them here and
maybe we can get it properly outlined as one group.

Maning's plans for 2009 
* I want our efforts to be a little bit "more organized".
* "Declare" certain areas as "complete".
* A meetup for OSM Philippines.
* Map more, more, more areas


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