Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Robin Anson]

On Sun 24 April 2005, 1:41:34 +1000, Mfpa wrote:
> Could set up two accounts in TB! with identical filters and server
> details. Filter business mail to the folders of one, personal mail
> to the folders of the other. Put templates for outgoing business
> mail on one and outgoing personal mail on the other.

<...snip...>

> Could set both these accounts to periodic checking and combined
> delivery. There might be an issue on the occasions both accounts
> try at the same time but the incidence of this could be minimised
> by only having one check on startup and by having one check, say
> every 30 minutes and the other every 31 minutes (or whatever).

Not the most elegant way because of that potential clash, but it is in
practical terms what I want to achieve.

Actually, now I think of it that might not result in any clashes. All my
mail retrieval is done via Popfile, and since I am using it to do an SSL
connection to one of my POP servers, I have to set it not to do
concurrent sessions. That will mean that if both accounts try to connect
as the same time, they will simply be done serially.

That might work well.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Robin Anson]

Thomas

On Sat 23 April 2005, 22:59:39 +1000, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Set up your template as a QuickTemplate, and then all you have to
> change when you create a new subfolder is the default templates (which
> you probably don't use anyway) to the QT.

True, that would simplify it.

RA>> If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the
RA>> templates of their parent folder, that would be very different.
>
> How often do you create new folders?

Admittedly not very often, it is more the principle of trying to find
the neatest, simplest way of doing it. If there are too many steps that
have to be remembered, I will forget one when it is guaranteed to cause
maximum embarrassment!

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Re: Changing filters

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:05:08 +0700 GMT (08/04/2005, 21:05 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> I found a way around: Instead of using Incoming filters, I use Read
TF> filters. This way, the message stays in the original account until I
TF> open it, and then it will be copied to the archive folder. Perfect!

Not perfect. Because I had to do some updating of the filters, namely
adding addresses to some. Turns out I now had to do that in two
places: The Incoming filters in the main/archive account, the Common
Read filters used by the other account.

The Read filters are deactivated now, and there is only one Common
filter in place. This copies each Incoming mail into the Inbox of the
main/archive account, marking the copy as read. I have to manually
refilter that Inbox now, but nevertheless, this is the best solution
solution so far. I need to maintain and update only the Incoming
filters in the main account.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Roelof,

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:52:04 +0200 GMT (24/04/2005, 05:52 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

RO> There's no need to create them manually, a couple of sub-filters that
RO> add addresses to the business AB group would do just fine.

Well, yes. But there are always addresses that don't filter correctly,
so you have to manually maintain the AB, too.

Whether your approach or mine is considered easier, may depend on the
individual user.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Robin,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:20:42 +1000 GMT (23/04/2005, 11:20 +0700 GMT),
Robin Anson wrote:

>> This is where it gets tricky, because TB allows "regular check" but
>> not "regular send". I have set my accounts to "regular check" and
>> "combined". If you are comfortable with "immediate send", then use
>> that.

RA> And that is the main problem with this approach.

Just had an idea: Don't put the correct details for POP-checking into
Account / Transport. For example, key in a wrong password or a
non-existent POP server. This way, regular checking will fail while
sending will still work.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thomas,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:10:26 +0700GMT (23-4-2005, 15:10 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

TF> If Robin's setup is anything like mine in the office, that won't work.
TF> I have many hundreds business contacts (some I communicate more often
TF> with than others) and over a hundred filters and subfolders. Creating
TF> AB entries for each contact would be a lot of additional work. In

There's no need to create them manually, a couple of sub-filters that
add addresses to the business AB group would do just fine.

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[WilWilWil]

Hello,

I've found that mails which are not well viewed in TB when they are HTML are 
those which are encoded in unicode UTF-8.

I see in preferences that I can add a set.

Someone could help me to find the table UTF-8 (web link or sending me the set 
by e-mail off-list), in the format of TB (XLT, XLAT ?) and say me how to import 
it in TB ?

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 22 April 2005 at 2:33:31 PM, in
, Robin Anson wrote:


> I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two
> accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server.

[...]

> I could set up a new account for one of them and set it up to never
> check mail. That would allow me to use completely separate templates for
> business and personal outgoing mail.

Could set up two accounts in TB! with identical filters and server
details. Filter business mail to the folders of one, personal mail
to the folders of the other. Put templates for outgoing business
mail on one and outgoing personal mail on the other.

> However it would mean I would have
> to set outgoing mail to immediate send. This is probably not a major
> problem, but it is not my usual way of doing it.

Could set both these accounts to periodic checking and combined
delivery. There might be an issue on the occasions both accounts
try at the same time but the incidence of this could be minimised
by only having one check on startup and by having one check, say
every 30 minutes and the other every 31 minutes (or whatever).

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Roelof,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:00:18 +0200 GMT (23/04/2005, 14:00 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

RO> What about address book templates?
RO> I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so
RO> you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use
RO> address book group templates.

If Robin's setup is anything like mine in the office, that won't work.
I have many hundreds business contacts (some I communicate more often
with than others) and over a hundred filters and subfolders. Creating
AB entries for each contact would be a lot of additional work. In
fact, the AB in my office TB is completely empty. When I want to send
a new message, I go into the folder and select an address and use
"Send new message to this address". If the folder contains several
thousand messages (many do), TB's search function is very fast and
convenient. Takes me less time than adding each new address to the AB.

Gee, I actually wouldn't know how to organise my company email without
TB's superior filtering and search functionalities, and across several
accounts at that. Even though I have a legal home version of TB (using
it here), I bought an additional business version for the office, just
because it is worth it and I couldn't do my job without it.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Robin,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:20:42 +1000 GMT (23/04/2005, 11:20 +0700 GMT),
Robin Anson wrote:

>> No, you can use folder templates.

RA> But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for
RA> all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new
RA> folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to
RA> remember to set the folder templates.

Set up your template as a QuickTemplate, and then all you have to
change when you create a new subfolder is the default templates (which
you probably don't use anyway) to the QT.

RA> If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the
RA> templates of their parent folder, that would be very different.

How often do you create new folders?

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Robin Anson]

Miguel

On Sat 23 April 2005, 20:47:51 +1000, Miguel wrote:
>> But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for
>> all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new
>> folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to
>> remember to set the folder templates.
>> 
>> If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the
>> templates of their parent folder, that would be very different.
>
> You can do this if subfolders are VFs, but I don't know if that suits
> your needs.

I hadn't thought about VFs either. Thanks, I will consider that.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Robin Anson]

Roelof

On Sat 23 April 2005, 17:00:18 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote:
RA>> I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two
RA>> accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server.
>
> What about address book templates?
> I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so
> you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use
> address book group templates.

Now I hadn't thought of address book GROUP templates. I will look at
that more closely.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[MAU]

Hello Robin,

> But folder templates apply just to the folder they are set for, not for
> all subfolders of the parent. That means that each time a create a new
> folder in (for example) the business folder tree, I would have to
> remember to set the folder templates.
> 
> If they were an inherited attribute, so that new folders inherited the
> templates of their parent folder, that would be very different.

You can do this if subfolders are VFs, but I don't know if that suits
your needs.

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Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Robin,

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:33:31 +1000GMT (22-4-2005, 15:33 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RA> I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two
RA> accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server.

What about address book templates?
I suppose your contacts are either business or private, not both, so
you should be able to drop most/all addresses in two groups and use
address book group templates.

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