Re[3]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Howdy Wayne, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 2:57:23 AM, Wayne wrotened: Wayne I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, Wayne I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. Its not necessary, but then again AV programs generally aren't specifically necessary but they do a valuable job and make us feel safer... -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Rohop: crashing The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 School is just an elaborate plot by vampires to obtain the blood of teenagers through periodic blood-drives. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 12:33:02 PM, Ben wrote: Wayne I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, Wayne I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. BA Its not necessary, but then again AV programs generally aren't BA specifically necessary but they do a valuable job and make us feel BA safer... I usually don't run AV programs in resident mode, because they interfere with other things I need to do. Because of this, I find the AVG plugin I'm using with TB! to be very useful. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 9:57:23 PM, Wayne wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? WK I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, I WK just asked whether the plugin was necessary. Go to: http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm and get some false virus files and test TheBat with and without the AVG plugin and report the results back to the group. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Monday, June 21, 2004, 11:26:39 AM, Andre wrote: On 21 Jun 2004 at 21:03:10 -0600 GMT [05:03 CEST] you wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. -- \/\/ayne Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Wayne, On 21 Jun 2004 at 21:03:10 -0600 GMT [05:03 CEST] you wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? -- Cheers, Andre Ein Kuß ist Mund-zu-Mund-Beatmung ohne medizinischen Anlaß. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
T What use is an Anti Virus (AV) plug-in? T I think all decent AV tools sniff incoming/outgoing e-mail traffic T automatically. T So what benefit does a plug-in add? It quarantines bad mails into a quarantine folder within TB, while a AV program without plugin will quarantine it ot a file outside of TB. If you want to deal with infected mails in any way, you want to use the plugin. I don't because I just want them deleted. Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. -- \/\/ayne Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Michael Thank you for your email dated Saturday, June 12, 2004, 9:01:06 PM, in which you wrote: I use NOD32 with TB! and I do not use a plugin, and EVERY virus that comes my way is caught. I have NEVER had problem. Same here. At the risk of sounding repetitive, plugins (to any software) just increase the chances of things going wrong for very little (if any) benefit. They do ensure the survival of mailing lists, however ;-) -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Simon Thank you for your email dated Saturday, June 12, 2004, 9:26:48 PM, in which you wrote: NOD32 can only deal with POP3 or MAPI through it's IMON / EMON scanners. Since IMON is email client independent and works at the winsock level doesn't it catch any incoming message? -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello William, WM Hello Simon WM Thank you for your email dated Saturday, June 12, 2004, 9:26:48 PM, WM in which you wrote: NOD32 can only deal with POP3 or MAPI through it's IMON / EMON scanners. WM Since IMON is email client independent and works at the winsock level WM doesn't it catch any incoming message? No. It just doesn't understand other protocols. If all e-mail traffic was the same Esset didn't need to update NOD32 from POP3 only to POP3/MAPI -- Best regards, Tony The hardest thing to understand in the world is the income tax. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:51:57 GMT, Allie Martin wrote: You may also be using POP3 but with encryption. Again, the usual POP3 scanners will not detect viruses over an ecrypted feed. The plugin helps there. Allie, wouldn't the AMON filter detect the virus when it hits the disk or memory in decrypted state? -- JN Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Joseph, JN On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:51:57 GMT, Allie Martin wrote: You may also be using POP3 but with encryption. Again, the usual POP3 scanners will not detect viruses over an ecrypted feed. The plugin helps there. JN Allie, wouldn't the AMON filter detect the virus when it hits the JN disk or memory in decrypted state? That's correct. -- Best regards, Tony A jury consists of twelve people who determine which client has the better lawyer. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Dear Batologist, What use is an Anti Virus (AV) plug-in? I think all decent AV tools sniff incoming/outgoing e-mail traffic automatically. So what benefit does a plug-in add? I'm currently using NOD32; and I think there is a plugin for it. -- Best regards, Tony The fellow who thinks he knows it all is especially annoying to those of us who do. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony, On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, at 21:46:36 [GMT+0200] (which was 12:46:36 In San Jose, CA, USA) you wrote: T I'm currently using NOD32; and I think there is a plugin for it. I use NOD32 with TB! and I do not use a plugin, and EVERY virus that comes my way is caught. I have NEVER had problem. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.11.02 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQMthDW2u7N+Qh+ieEQK+GACfRO7v8F6CRBDpV6Ovk/+Xnfi+upsAoI+4 yYcmVCHvmaZ8BHWxmQYCyjnq =GUCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Michael, MLW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MLW Hash: SHA1 MLW Hello Tony, MLW On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, at 21:46:36 [GMT+0200] (which was 12:46:36 In San MLW Jose, CA, USA) you wrote: T I'm currently using NOD32; and I think there is a plugin for it. I meant to say *no* plugin MLW I use NOD32 with TB! and I do not use a plugin, and EVERY virus that MLW comes my way is caught. I have NEVER had problem. That's just what I wanted to hear! :) I'm very new to TB! and I was fearing that TB! might use 'something' that passes by NOD32. Problem solved. I would hate giving up this solid app. But still I wonder why plugins are written. The coders must see an advantage to it. -- Best regards, Tony The only source of knowledge is experience. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Simon Fincham, [SF] wrote: I believe Plugins come into there own if you are using a protocol other than POP3 for your E-Mail. You may also be using POP3 but with encryption. Again, the usual POP3 scanners will not detect viruses over an ecrypted feed. The plugin helps there. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpOjCxyfXyw2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
* Tony writes: I think all decent AV tools sniff incoming/outgoing e-mail traffic automatically. Which can cause trouble if it »protects« you from temporary files TB! creates when receiving mails. So what benefit does a plug-in add? Think of encrypted email communication. Carsten -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Tony, On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:46:36 +0200 GMT (13/06/2004, 02:46 +0700 GMT), Tony wrote: T What use is an Anti Virus (AV) plug-in? T I think all decent AV tools sniff incoming/outgoing e-mail traffic T automatically. T So what benefit does a plug-in add? It quarantines bad mails into a quarantine folder within TB, while a AV program without plugin will quarantine it ot a file outside of TB. If you want to deal with infected mails in any way, you want to use the plugin. I don't because I just want them deleted. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reiner Calmund: Im Fusball ist es wie im Eiskunstlauf - wer die meisten Tore schiesst, der gewinnt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
