Re: user list

2013-07-09 Thread Michael Knepher
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com wrote:

 Dne úterý, 9. července 2013 16:24:11 CEST, Michal Jaegermann  napsal(a):

  OTOH I really dislike to advertise too wide who is just sitting by a
 keyboard.  If you want to call that paranoiac then so be it but


 I don't argue about the configurability, if you prefer to have it hidden,
 let's allow to hide it



 I'm just wondering what exact security benefit it adds


If you're referring to the ability to remove the user name from the
gnome-shell top bar, it's probably better described as a privacy feature
(which is what the setting is under in gnome-3.8). Any benefit would
primarily be subjective to each individual user.

Michael Knepher
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Weird pointer behavior in F19

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Knepher
I've been running F19 on my laptop since pre-Alpha, and I've got it
fully up-to-date. Starting yesterday I started noticing strange issues
with the pointer on some applications - mainly epiphany, gedit and
evolution - and was wondering if anyone else is seeing similar issues.

* The first thing I noticed yesterday was in epiphany. In a given tab,
the pointer would get stuck in a certain context (i.e., would remain
as the hand or cursor bar after mousing over a link or text), as long as
that tab was in focus (including the scrollbar). Other tabs or windows
would not exhibit this problem, but the problem would persist when
switching back to the problematic tab. Refreshing the page seems to make
the problem go away for a time. 

* Scrollbar behavior - another intermittent issue has been a problem
interacting with the scrollbar using the mouse. When dragging a
scrollbar with the pointer, the scrollbar will stay put and the viewport
will not change until the mouse button is released. Sometimes this is
accompanied by an inability to scroll the viewport with the scrollwheel.
I've had this issue in all three of the above-named apps, but it seems
to come and go with no predictable pattern. 

* Inability to select text by click-dragging - in windows/text views(?
not sure of the technical terms here) in which the scrollbar issue is
present, it is impossible to select text by clicking and dragging with
the mouse. I can click-and-release in a spot to set the cursor, then
shift-click at another point to select a block of text, or double- and
triple-click to select words and lines, but not simply drag.

* Disappearing pointer in gedit - this morning I also noticed that while
working in gedit, the pointer will disappear when I start typing in a
document. The pointer will remain invisible while within the document
pane, it will only show up when moving outside the editing pane. Saving
the document or switching to another tab and back to the original tab
will cause the pointer to reappear within the editing pane. While the
pointer is missing, I have the same issues with scrolling and selecting
described above.

Is anyone else seeing similar issues? I'm running an Acer Aspire 5553G
laptop, with a USB mouse and keyboard attached.

Michael Knepher



-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Weird pointer behavior in F19

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Knepher
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 Try 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-8741/libXi-1.7.1-3.fc19
 and give karma if it fixes the issue for you.
 

Thanks for the pointer. So far, so good.

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Question regarding bug filing on gnome components

2013-04-29 Thread Michael Knepher
I'm running Fedora 19 alpha, and have a question on the most appropriate
place to file bugs on gnome components like epiphany and gedit. Should I
file in the Fedora bugzilla or directly to the Gnome bugzilla?

Michael Knepher

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Evolution has Google calendar support on one system, not on another

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Knepher
I have had fedora 15 installed (clean) on my laptop since the alpha
release, and have evolution set up to pull my google calendars. I
recently installed the beta on a desktop system using the default
desktop pc install settings, and the evolution new calendar dialog
is missing options for google and webdav. Evolution and eds packages
are up to date on both systems, and I'm not sure what packages should
be providing the calendar providers.

Michael Knepher
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Libreoffice not allowing printing

2011-05-05 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Lawrence E Graves
lgra...@risingstarmbc.com wrote:
 I sent a message early this morning concerning this matter. Is there
 something wrong with Libreoffice why it won't allow me to print. I also
 discovered today that I can't print out of PDF file either. Can you shed
 any light on this subject or is it in the process of being addressed?
 --

You really need to provide more information before anyone can offer
much help. Assuming you're running Fedora 15 beta, are you fully
updated? What model is your printer? Is it connected directly or via
network, and is it set up in system-config-printers? Were you able to
print a test page?

Michael Knepher

 Lawrence E Graves lgra...@risingstarmbc.com

 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Problems (Bugs?) with Gnome 3.

2011-04-28 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 28/04/11 10:22, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
 gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu

 A side question, yum list gnome-shell-extension* reveals 8 such extensions in
 total, where can I read detailed about them?

This is about as detailed as I've found:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/gnome-shell-extensions-additional.html
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

2011-04-21 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:

 Launch firefox and display the About popup.  Notice anything missing?
 Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
 xulrunner-bin.  Or perhaps xkill?  Is this a window manager (mutter?)
 bug?

 Probably?  I have difficulty coming up with any design reason for this,
 but I haven't gone back to read the design discussions.

 Also, as always: right click on the window titlebar will give you the
 full list of options, including Close.

ESC works for me.
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

2011-04-21 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 02:17 -0700, Scott Doty wrote:

 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 The alternative was not having the Shut Down option at all, so be
 careful what you wish for...=)

 I know you're kidding, sir, because such examples of false dichotomies
 are clearly logical fallacies...and we know those never appear on
 Fedora mailing lists... ;-)

 Well, not really. The Alt thing was added. For a few weeks before that,
 you only had Suspend and Log Out.

 Seriously, though:  it doesn't do much good to exemplify bold
 leadership by proudly  following Gnome off a cliff...because I
 strongly doubt the Fedora community will do likewise.

 What's the alternative, maintain long-term patches to a desktop despite
 the fact that most of our desktop team are part of the upstream GNOME
 development team? It's not likely.

Well, one possible alternative would be to include by default (or
loudly advertise) the Alternative Status Menu gnome-shell extension,
which adds the Power Off... entry under Suspend.


 Fedora follows upstream. If you don't like what GNOME is doing, you can
 always not use it: Fedora provides many other desktops.
 --
 Adam Williamson
 Fedora QA Community Monkey
 IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
 http://www.happyassassin.net

 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Michael Knepher
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dokuro dario.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 ALT, that is so strange why is that, i tried it and it was there thank
 you, where can i find all of this quirks...

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet has quite a few
user-friendly tips. For more complex plumbing, see
http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html


 thank you

 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Stern
 subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 On 04/12/2011 03:49 PM, Dokuro wrote:
 is this the place to ask what happened to the shoot down option on the
 user menu, because now i have to log out before i can shoot down...
 the process seems longer...
 (fedora 15 alpha gnome3 and loving it!)
 thnx

 Press ALT while the menu is displayed.

 --
 -- Steve
 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




 --
 No necesito anti-virus por que uso un buen sistema GNU/Linux, libre y gratis!
 I need no anti-virus, I use a GNU/Linux, a Free Operative System!
 Je necesite pas de anti-virus, parce que j'utilice a GNU/Linux OS
 completment libre!
 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Zeitgeist/Gnome Activity Journal on Fedora 15

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Knepher
I'm trying to run zeitgeist and gnome-activity-journal on my laptop
with Fedora 15. Zeitgeist-daemon is running, but
gnome-activity-journal doesn't show any activity. When I run or
restart zeitgeist-daemon from the command line, it gives a warning
Unable to start the datahub, no binary found, but continues to run,
spewing lots of messages from zeitgeist.engine (Found 0 events IDs)
and zietgeist.notify (Removing monitor...). Am wondering if any one
else is seeing the same issues?

Michael Knepher
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: gnote

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Knepher
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 How do I get gnote to start automatically and display an icon somewhere?
  I've come to rely on it.

I don't remember if I had to manually add it to the startup apps (run
gnome-session-properties) or using a preference in gnote itself, but I
have it running on login on my laptop. The icon shows up in the
notification tray - mouse to the lower right corner to bring it up -
this is where all legacy tray icons will show up.

Michael Knepher
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Knepher
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:06 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690648
 The issue with my laptop is that it appears to suspend properly, but
 the screen will not power back on when trying to resume. Everything
 else seems to work OK (had headphones plugged in, and banshee resumed
 the track it had been playing when it suspended). I filed it under
 pm-utils because I was testing it out around the time of the test day,
 but didn't have time to run a full test suite. Is there a better
 component for it? Hibernation is a whole other kettle of fish, and I
 have not had time to do a bug report on it yet.

 It's likely in the kernel or the graphics driver (which may actually
 mean also the kernel, but different developers). I'd switch it to kernel
 or xorg-x11-drv-(whatever'sappropriateforyourgraphicscard).

I tried switching the component, but it won't allow me.

 --
 Adam Williamson
 Fedora QA Community Monkey
 IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
 http://www.happyassassin.net

 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: window title bar background color...

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Rob Healey robheal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings:

 I know there has been a lot of messages here lately about Gnome 3, and now I
 would like to ask my question on the same subject...

 I would like to know how to configure the color/ font of the windows title
 bar?

There is basic ability to change font size in the Universal Access
settings panel, but its options are limited to four predefined
settings. For finer control of font settings, you can use
gnome-tweak-tool, which is in the F15 repository. Adjusting the font
size for the window title will change the title bar size, fyi.

There is currently no simple way to change colors. I'm not sure when
theming support will be added to gnome-shell (probably as an
extension) but there are some preliminary themes that should work with
the current release at
http://gnome-shell.deviantart.com/gallery/28081982, and you might be
able to get some ideas for tweaking colors and such. My understanding
is that everything is css now, so if you're familiar with that, it
shouldn't be too difficult to experiment, though I think modifications
need to be in /usr/share/gnome-shell/data for now.


 Thank you in advance...

 --
 Sincerely yours,
 Rob G. Healey
 Always surround yourself with people that inspire you to
 greatness!

 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
I've tried following the debate over the change to suspend as the
visible and default way of managing power, but have not been able to
find any resolution of whether the default is expected to remain so on
systems that do not either suspend or resume properly or if this is up
to the distributions to handle. 

My understanding is that gnome 3 default is to suspend, then hibernate
after a certain period of time. While I don't think this is necessarily
the wrong choice, it currently does not work on my laptop, which does
not fully resume after a suspend, and for which hibernate is completely
broken. Now, with gnome-tweak-tool, I can at least change the settings
for closing the lid, but when I want to power off from the user menu, I
still need to press Alt to get that option. 

Will Fedora 15 attempt to recognize systems that are known not to
support the default behavior? And/or is there a way (through gsettings I
guess it would be?) for users to change this so we don't have to press
Alt every time?

Michael Knepher

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:41 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote:
 I've tried following the debate over the change to suspend as the
 visible and default way of managing power, but have not been able to
 find any resolution of whether the default is expected to remain so on
 systems that do not either suspend or resume properly or if this is up
 to the distributions to handle.

 Neither, really: it's the default, and if it doesn't work, the idea is
 that we fix that (the failure to suspend). Both GNOME and Fedora are not
 big fans of giant manually-updated blacklists due to previous
 experience.

I can certainly understand that.

 My understanding is that gnome 3 default is to suspend, then hibernate
 after a certain period of time.

 I don't think it does this (hybrid suspend), it just suspends.

A bit more googling, and all I found was a blog post referring to a
#gnome-shell IRC conversation from late February, reporting that devs
wanted to suspend, then wake up after 30 minutes and suspend-to-disk.
Can't find any other references.

 AFAIK no, that would require a big ugly blacklist and manpower to
 maintain it. Is there a bug filed on the failure to suspend correctly?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690648
The issue with my laptop is that it appears to suspend properly, but
the screen will not power back on when trying to resume. Everything
else seems to work OK (had headphones plugged in, and banshee resumed
the track it had been playing when it suspended). I filed it under
pm-utils because I was testing it out around the time of the test day,
but didn't have time to run a full test suite. Is there a better
component for it? Hibernation is a whole other kettle of fish, and I
have not had time to do a bug report on it yet.


 And/or is there a way (through gsettings I
 guess it would be?) for users to change this so we don't have to press
 Alt every time?

 Not sure about this...
 --
 Adam Williamson
 Fedora QA Community Monkey
 IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
 http://www.happyassassin.net

 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Suspend/hibernate on systems that don't suspend/resume or hibernate properly

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Knepher
2011/4/6 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
 snip

 All suspend resume bugs should be fixed hence if it fails for you or
 anyother reporter for that matter you should report it so please file a
 bug and attach /var/log/messages
 ,/var/log/pm-suspend.log and the file from su -c
 'pm-utils-bugreport-info.sh  pm-utils-bugreport.txt'

 You can test suspend from the graphical.target and multi-user.target by
 running

 su -c 'pm-suspend'

 and

 su -c 'echo mem  /sys/power/state'

Am I supposed to run both or either of these commands? I ran the
first, with the same results (no screen), and after restarting the
system, attached the requested files to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690648


 If the above fails in multi-user.target it's most likely is a kernel bug
 thus needs more advanced debugging.

 JBG
 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: fallback from gnome-shell to the old desktop not satisfying since some days

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Knepher
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joachim Backes
joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
 After having applied all updates, I see the following problem:

 Switching to the old desktop fallback leads to some problems:

 1. The menus are missing for logging out and restarting

Are you looking for the old System menu that was next to
Applications and Places? That's gone, and you should have Log Out...
and Shut Down... entries in the user menu on the right of the panel.

 2. No menu controlled way back to gnome-shell: I have to start manually
   gnome-control-center

System Settings should also be in the user menu.

Running latest gnome-panel from updates-testing.


 Somebody sees this too?

 Kind regards

 --
 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de

 http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes


 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Shotwell plugins for publishing to web services

2011-03-25 Thread Michael Knepher
Testing out Shotwell 0.9 on Fedora 15, I found that there is currently
no way to publish photos to any site but a Piwigo gallery. According
to the Shotwell site[1], there should be plugins for publishing to
Facebook, Flickr, Picasa, etc. Going to Edit-Preferences-Plugins
shows two plugins: Publishing and Slideshow Transitions with no
other information on configuring. Are the plugins still under
development upstream, or is this a packaging issue for Fedora?

[1] http://yorba.org/shotwell/help/upload.html

Michael Knepher
-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


Re: Gnome3: I did it!

2011-03-24 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Adam Pribyl pri...@lowlevel.cz wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Joachim Backes wrote:

 On 03/23/2011 04:48 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 Wow! That is really nice!!!

 I will definitely be looking around quite a lot more. Already, I can say
 that
 Activities are much better thought out and implemented than the confusing
 and
 generally somewhat useless KDE variant.

 I am confused by the user account, since I logged in as me, but it says the
 account is administrator.


 I think you've been asked during installation whether your account should be
 an admin account or not. And it seems you agreed.

 This is some new anaconda feature, or what sort of administrator this is?
 I've got bit scared by this, as I see the future with tons of people using
 Gnome as administrators. We know this from AnotherOperatingSystem...

If I recall correctly from the installation, when you set up a primary
user account you are asked if you want the account to have
administrative privileges, and if you check the box, then your user is
added to the wheel group, which is set up in /etc/sudoers to be
allowed to run all commands (with password prompt).


 --
 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de

 Adam Pribyl
 --
 test mailing list
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 To unsubscribe:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

-- 
test mailing list
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test