Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:51 PM stan via test wrote: > > On Mon, 10 May 2021 03:49:33 -0400 > Francisco Tissera wrote: > > > When trying to install fedora 34's repository packages, I get across > > errors that I have to fix by adding the --allowerasing flag, or the > > --skipbroken one. > > > > Is that advisable, or does that mean that repositories of different > > versions of Fedora are not instalable in parallel? > > Without seeing the actual error messages, I assume that they are not > parallel installable. They probably use the same path and package name > for something, and so cannot be installed at the same time. > > Since it is only a single kernel that you will have to do the manual > procedure for, that is probably the path you should take. Even if you > install the f34 repos only to get the kernel, and then reinstall the > rawhide repos, the latest kernel in f34 is now 5.12, so you will have > to specify the version of kernel you want during the kernel update. The 5.12 kernels are no tin the f34 repos, they are being built as "official" F34 kernels so that they are secure boot signed for test week, but 5.11 kernels are still being updated and pushed through bodhi. I expect 5.12 rebases to happen next week. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
Am 11.05.2021 22:54 schrieb Thomas Mittelstaedt : Any help would be apriciated. Why don't you try out Fedora Silverblue https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/.I might add that I'm using it since Fedora 31 and really like it.You can easily revert to the previous state, if some installation attempt fails.I found something in the documentation related to your problem: Search for 'How can I downgrade my system’s kernel?'https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/Thomas Best regards. Francisco. P.S. Using Fedora rawhide with kernel 5.11.17, trying to see if there are any updates available to 5.11.18 or 19 or something like that. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
Am 09.05.2021 09:55 schrieb Francisco Tissera :Hello everyone, I know I have created a thred about this specific question, but I am not able to find it. Because of that, I created a new one, I apologize for the inconvenience. Someone, in the previous thred, advised me to type, in order to get the latest kernel from Fedora 34's repositories sudo dnf update --releasever=34 'kernel*' I tried typing that with and without ticks enclosing the kernnel* parameter, but this is what I got, and it's not what should be happening, is it? Dependencies resolved. 80 equals characters Package Arch Version Repo Size 80 equals characters Installing: kernel-modules-internal x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 477 k Installing dependencies: kernel x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 296 k kernel-core x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 36 M kernel-devel x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 15 M kernel-modules x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 32 M kernel-modules-extra x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 rawhide 2.3 M Transaction Summary 80 equals characters Install 6 Packages Total download size: 86 M Installed size: 168 M Is this ok [y/N]: I of course said no, and, funny thing is, it refreshed everything, from the copr repos I have to fedora 34 modular etc. So I don't know what's happening. Any help would be apriciated. Why don't you try out Fedora Silverblue https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/.You can easily revert to the previous state, if some installation attempt fails.I found something in the documentation related to your problem: Search for 'How can I downgrade my system’s kernel?'https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/Thomas Best regards. Francisco. P.S. Using Fedora rawhide with kernel 5.11.17, trying to see if there are any updates available to 5.11.18 or 19 or something like that. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 03:55 -0400, Francisco Tissera wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > I know I have created a thred about this specific question, but I am > not > able to find it. Because of that, I created a new one, I apologize > for > the inconvenience. > > Someone, in the previous thred, advised me to type, in order to get > the > latest kernel from Fedora 34's repositories > > sudo dnf update --releasever=34 'kernel*' > > I tried typing that with and without ticks enclosing the kernnel* > parameter, but this is what I got, and it's not what should be > happening, is it? > > > Dependencies resolved. > 80 equals characters > Package Arch Version Repo Size > 80 equals characters > Installing: > kernel-modules-internal > x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 477 k you should have rawhide repos enabled please run and check the list of: dnf repolist > Installing dependencies: > kernel x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 296 k > kernel-core x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 36 M > kernel-devel x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 15 M > kernel-modules > x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 32 M > kernel-modules-extra > x86_64 5.13.0-0.rc0.20210428gitacd3d2859453.2.fc35 > rawhide 2.3 M > Transaction Summary > 80 equals characters > Install 6 Packages > Total download size: 86 M > Installed size: 168 M > Is this ok [y/N]: > > > I of course said no, and, funny thing is, it refreshed everything, > from > the copr repos I have to fedora 34 modular etc. So I don't know > what's > happening. > > Any help would be apriciated. > > Best regards. > > Francisco. > > P.S. Using Fedora rawhide with kernel 5.11.17, trying to see if there > are any updates available to 5.11.18 or 19 or something like that. > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Sérgio M. B. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
On Mon, 10 May 2021 03:49:33 -0400 Francisco Tissera wrote: > When trying to install fedora 34's repository packages, I get across > errors that I have to fix by adding the --allowerasing flag, or the > --skipbroken one. > > Is that advisable, or does that mean that repositories of different > versions of Fedora are not instalable in parallel? Without seeing the actual error messages, I assume that they are not parallel installable. They probably use the same path and package name for something, and so cannot be installed at the same time. Since it is only a single kernel that you will have to do the manual procedure for, that is probably the path you should take. Even if you install the f34 repos only to get the kernel, and then reinstall the rawhide repos, the latest kernel in f34 is now 5.12, so you will have to specify the version of kernel you want during the kernel update. Run the command rpm -qa | grep ^kernel- | sort | less to find the kernel packages you have installed so you can get them from koji, if you decide to do the manual procedure. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
Hello there, When trying to install fedora 34's repository packages, I get across errors that I have to fix by adding the --allowerasing flag, or the --skipbroken one. Is that advisable, or does that mean that repositories of different versions of Fedora are not instalable in parallel? Best regards. Francisco On 5/10/21 2:35 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: Once the Fedora 34 repo is added, this might work going forward: sudo dnf update --exclude=kernel*,kernel-* sudo dnf repository-packages fedora-34 update The first one does rawhide updates while excluding kernels. The second will install newer fedora 34 kernels than you already have, even if you have rawhide kernels, because the kernel is special. Your other packages won't get f34 versions because that would be a downgrade. I think. -- Chris Murphy ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
Once the Fedora 34 repo is added, this might work going forward: sudo dnf update --exclude=kernel*,kernel-* sudo dnf repository-packages fedora-34 update The first one does rawhide updates while excluding kernels. The second will install newer fedora 34 kernels than you already have, even if you have rawhide kernels, because the kernel is special. Your other packages won't get f34 versions because that would be a downgrade. I think. -- Chris Murphy ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A question about upgrading kernels, again
On Sun, 9 May 2021 03:55:47 -0400 Francisco Tissera wrote: > Someone, in the previous thred, advised me to type, in order to get > the latest kernel from Fedora 34's repositories > > sudo dnf update --releasever=34 'kernel*' > I tried typing that with and without ticks enclosing the kernnel* > parameter, but this is what I got, and it's not what should be > happening, is it? According to the man pages, this should have worked. But, it looks like it didn't disable the rawhide repositories like it was supposed to, and they would displace f34 updates. If installing the f34 fedora-repos packages as suggested below doesn't fix this, I suggest you open a bugzilla against dnf at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/. I checked and there isn't already a bugzilla for this. That isn't surprising, even if it is a bug, because doing what you are doing will be rare, so no one else will have hit it. > Any help would be apriciated. I suspect that you have the fedora-repos package installed for f35 (rawhide), but don't have the fedora-repos package installed for f34, so dnf couldn't find where to get the f34 packges. I don't know if the repos are parallel installable. If they are, you could go here, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1741470 and get the fedora-repos packages you need for f34, and install them using dnf -C install [list of f34 repo packages] in the directory to where you downloaded the rpms. Then you could run the above command, and it should succeed. If they aren't parallel installable, you would have to use the procedure below. > P.S. Using Fedora rawhide with kernel 5.11.17, trying to see if there > are any updates available to 5.11.18 or 19 or something like that. Here is the link to the last 5.11 kernel for f34, 5.11.19, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1744960 since 5.12.2 has been released for f34. If all else fails you can download the kernel packages installed on your system from there, and install them using dnf -C install [list of kernel packages] in the directory to where you downloaded the binary kernel rpms. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure