Re: Interesting Feedback From a New Tester

2011-03-25 Thread Tim Flink
On 03/25/2011 02:33 PM, Tim Flink wrote:
> On 03/25/2011 02:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 13:53 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
>>> I took part in an interesting discussion in #fedora-qa today with
>>> someone who was new to Fedora (coming from Ubuntu) and interested in
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> He (I assume he, will use for consistancy) came to the alpha download
>>> page on fedoraproject.org [1], tried to use and install the alpha and
>>> ran into some problems. Apparently, he tried to ask questions in #fedora
>>> and got some gruff "no alpha stuff here" comments before finding #fedora-qa.
>>>
>>> I looked at the alpha download page, and there is no reference to qa, no
>>> reference to newer images and nothing about directing questions to test@
>>> or #fedora-qa.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I propose that we add some
>>> additional information to that page [1]. At the very least, a sentence
>>> or two about where to direct questions about the alpha and "if you're
>>> interested in testing, see  page" which points to new information
>>> (maybe the QA or QA/Join wiki pages?).
>>>
>>> This should at least stem some of the alpha related questions coming
>>> into #fedora and hopefully us find some more people who are interested
>>> in testing, too!
>>
>> yes, sounds good. People in #fedora usually explicitly tell people to
>> take pre-release questions to #fedora-qa, though, they don't usually
>> just say 'not here'.
>>
>> we don't maintain the page, though; the websites group does.
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites should have info on where to
>> propose this.
> 
> Yeah, I was going to start talking to them once I got some feedback from
> test@ as far as the wording or specific links were concerned.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim

I filed a ticket with the fedora-websites team to request QA contact
info on the get-prerelease page:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/45

Tim




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Re: Interesting Feedback From a New Tester

2011-03-25 Thread Tim Flink
On 03/25/2011 02:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 13:53 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
>> I took part in an interesting discussion in #fedora-qa today with
>> someone who was new to Fedora (coming from Ubuntu) and interested in
>> testing.
>>
>> He (I assume he, will use for consistancy) came to the alpha download
>> page on fedoraproject.org [1], tried to use and install the alpha and
>> ran into some problems. Apparently, he tried to ask questions in #fedora
>> and got some gruff "no alpha stuff here" comments before finding #fedora-qa.
>>
>> I looked at the alpha download page, and there is no reference to qa, no
>> reference to newer images and nothing about directing questions to test@
>> or #fedora-qa.
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I propose that we add some
>> additional information to that page [1]. At the very least, a sentence
>> or two about where to direct questions about the alpha and "if you're
>> interested in testing, see  page" which points to new information
>> (maybe the QA or QA/Join wiki pages?).
>>
>> This should at least stem some of the alpha related questions coming
>> into #fedora and hopefully us find some more people who are interested
>> in testing, too!
> 
> yes, sounds good. People in #fedora usually explicitly tell people to
> take pre-release questions to #fedora-qa, though, they don't usually
> just say 'not here'.
> 
> we don't maintain the page, though; the websites group does.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites should have info on where to
> propose this.

Yeah, I was going to start talking to them once I got some feedback from
test@ as far as the wording or specific links were concerned.

Thanks,

Tim



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Re: Interesting Feedback From a New Tester

2011-03-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 13:53 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
> I took part in an interesting discussion in #fedora-qa today with
> someone who was new to Fedora (coming from Ubuntu) and interested in
> testing.
> 
> He (I assume he, will use for consistancy) came to the alpha download
> page on fedoraproject.org [1], tried to use and install the alpha and
> ran into some problems. Apparently, he tried to ask questions in #fedora
> and got some gruff "no alpha stuff here" comments before finding #fedora-qa.
> 
> I looked at the alpha download page, and there is no reference to qa, no
> reference to newer images and nothing about directing questions to test@
> or #fedora-qa.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I propose that we add some
> additional information to that page [1]. At the very least, a sentence
> or two about where to direct questions about the alpha and "if you're
> interested in testing, see  page" which points to new information
> (maybe the QA or QA/Join wiki pages?).
> 
> This should at least stem some of the alpha related questions coming
> into #fedora and hopefully us find some more people who are interested
> in testing, too!

yes, sounds good. People in #fedora usually explicitly tell people to
take pre-release questions to #fedora-qa, though, they don't usually
just say 'not here'.

we don't maintain the page, though; the websites group does.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites should have info on where to
propose this.
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Re: Interesting Feedback From a New Tester

2011-03-25 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/25/2011 07:53 PM, Tim Flink wrote:
> I took part in an interesting discussion in #fedora-qa today with
> someone who was new to Fedora (coming from Ubuntu) and interested in
> testing.
>
> He (I assume he, will use for consistancy) came to the alpha download
> page on fedoraproject.org [1], tried to use and install the alpha and
> ran into some problems. Apparently, he tried to ask questions in #fedora
> and got some gruff "no alpha stuff here" comments before finding #fedora-qa.
>
> I looked at the alpha download page, and there is no reference to qa, no
> reference to newer images and nothing about directing questions to test@
> or #fedora-qa.
>
> I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I propose that we add some
> additional information to that page [1]. At the very least, a sentence
> or two about where to direct questions about the alpha and "if you're
> interested in testing, see  page" which points to new information
> (maybe the QA or QA/Join wiki pages?).
>
> This should at least stem some of the alpha related questions coming
> into #fedora and hopefully us find some more people who are interested
> in testing, too!
>
> Thoughts

Good point you should file a request here [1] .

JBG

1.https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/
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