Re: update some testcases(2)
Hi Adam, Thanks for your kindly and detailed reply.I will update the wiki-page this Thursday, if there is no feedback then. Thanks, Lili - Original Message - From: "Adam Williamson" To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:45:17 PM Subject: Re: update some testcases(2) On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 01:16 -0500, Lili Nie wrote: > Thanks a lot Kamil and Adam for their comments. > Welcome more comments and as soon as we have a decision >on the changes,the wiki-page will be updated. You don't necessarily need a 'decision' - the convention is that you propose your changes, then if you get any feedback, deal with the feedback, then keep doing that cycle until one of two things happen: 1) you get all 'positive' feedback, no suggested changes 2) you stop getting any feedback at all if you propose a change and don't get any feedback on it within a couple of weeks, and you're pretty sure it's a sensible change, it's fine to just go ahead and do it. 'No complaints' counts as 'approval'. :) It's always a wiki, things can always be changed if someone comes along and sees a problem later. If you propose something and no-one goes 'no! that's terrible!' within two weeks, it's a pretty good indication your change at least isn't just completely terrible. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases(2)
On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 01:16 -0500, Lili Nie wrote: > Thanks a lot Kamil and Adam for their comments. > Welcome more comments and as soon as we have a decision >on the changes,the wiki-page will be updated. You don't necessarily need a 'decision' - the convention is that you propose your changes, then if you get any feedback, deal with the feedback, then keep doing that cycle until one of two things happen: 1) you get all 'positive' feedback, no suggested changes 2) you stop getting any feedback at all if you propose a change and don't get any feedback on it within a couple of weeks, and you're pretty sure it's a sensible change, it's fine to just go ahead and do it. 'No complaints' counts as 'approval'. :) It's always a wiki, things can always be changed if someone comes along and sees a problem later. If you propose something and no-one goes 'no! that's terrible!' within two weeks, it's a pretty good indication your change at least isn't just completely terrible. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases(2)
Thanks a lot Kamil and Adam for their comments. Welcome more comments and as soon as we have a decision on the changes,the wiki-page will be updated. Thanks, Lili Nie - Original Message - From: "Lili Nie" To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:52:11 AM Subject: update some testcases(2) Hi all, I have taken part in the "improve the test wiki page"proposed by Tao Wu. As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the "test wiki page"seem to be inapplicable. I suggest to modify some of them, as the following: Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted you can encrypt the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk or encrypt part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning your disk Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults， and make sure the existing partitions are not modified As in the text mode, you should choose option of using the free space for the Autopartitioning Options Expected Results The system should install successfully After install, the system initiates boot properly The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only into the previously free space. [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]: Click into Installation Destination, select Continue select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead for INSTALLATION OPTIONS select Continue to custom the partition Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by anaconda, and proceed with installation. Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen,[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision on the changes, I will update the wiki-page. Thank you, Lili Nie -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases(2)
Thanks for lnie's updates, if you have any suggestions, just let us known as soon as possible. Any comment is welcomed! Thanks! On 13-01-10 01:52, Lili Nie wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have taken part in the "improve the test wiki page"proposed by Tao Wu. > As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the "test wiki > page"seem to be inapplicable. > I suggest to modify some of them, as the following: > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted > you can encrypt the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk > or encrypt part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning > your disk > Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults > After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to > ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning > Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a > passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted > Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults， > and make sure the existing partitions are not modified > As in the text mode, you should choose option of using the free space for > the Autopartitioning Options > Expected Results > The system should install successfully > After install, the system initiates boot properly > The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only > into the previously free space. > > [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]: > Click into Installation Destination, select Continue > select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead for > INSTALLATION OPTIONS > select Continue to custom the partition > > Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda > partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] > At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by > anaconda, and proceed with installation. > Complete the installation > >Testcase:: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda > partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] > At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an > ext3 formatted partition,and proceed with installation > Complete the installation > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen,[[QA:Anaconda > partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] > At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs > formatted partition,and proceed with installation > Complete the installation > > Testcase:: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda > partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] > At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an > ext4 formatted partition,and proceed with installation > Complete the installation > >Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision >on the changes, I will update the wiki-page. > > Thank you, > Lili Nie > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- Best Regards, Tao Wu -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
update some testcases(2)
Hi all, I have taken part in the "improve the test wiki page"proposed by Tao Wu. As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the "test wiki page"seem to be inapplicable. I suggest to modify some of them, as the following: Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted you can encrypt the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk or encrypt part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning your disk Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults， and make sure the existing partitions are not modified As in the text mode, you should choose option of using the free space for the Autopartitioning Options Expected Results The system should install successfully After install, the system initiates boot properly The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only into the previously free space. [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]: Click into Installation Destination, select Continue select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead for INSTALLATION OPTIONS select Continue to custom the partition Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by anaconda, and proceed with installation. Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen,[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,and proceed with installation Complete the installation Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision on the changes, I will update the wiki-page. Thank you, Lili Nie -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases
- Original Message - From: "Adam Williamson" To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:22:18 PM Subject: Re: update some testcases On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:02 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe >> different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment >> on terminology? >That's how I've been doing it so far. It feels like we could somehow >come up with better names, but no-one has yet :) >The dialog which pops up after you select disks for installation - and >either says 'You have enough space, you're all set!' or 'You don't have >enough space, you need to free some up!' - is the branch point for >'Guided' vs. 'Custom' install. Both versions of that dialog have a >checkbox whose label says something about 'Customize the layout'. If you >check that checkbox and then proceed from the dialog, you are now in the >'custom partitioning' flow. If you leave the checkbox unchecked and >proceed from the dialog, you are now in the 'guided partitioning' flow. >If you had enough space, and you don't check the box, then you are now >done with partitioning, there is no further screen in the flow - but we >still refer to it as the 'guided partitioning' flow. >As kparal says, the 'autopart' algorithm can actually be invoked from >each path. 'Guided partitioning' always uses the 'autopart' algorithm to >actually create the final partition layout. In 'custom partitioning' you >can choose to use it, by clicking the 'Create partition layout >automatically' text Kamil mentioned. Or you can choose not to use it, >and to actually create each partition manually. I probably wouldn't want >to try and use the term 'manual partitioning' to mean 'custom >partitioning without using the 'autopart' link', that seems >unnecessarily confusing - really, 'custom partitioning' is still 'custom >partitioning' whether you clicked the 'autopart' link or not. Hi Adam,the" custom mode" and the "autopart mode" is clear enough for me .What confused me is that I thought we are in autopart mode as long as we change nothing and just do default things, we are in custom mode the moment we change sth.That's why I say we can change mode for several times during one install. "No, that's still custom mode. As long as you're in the custom dialog,you're in custom mode. The 'Create partition layout automatically'function is just a little helper."make it clear at once,and I don't feel confused now:)thanks for your comment. > > > >In the original text there is also: > > ># Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and > > >entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an > > >English keyboard map > > >Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on > > >"repeat-several-times" test cases. We can explicitly say the > > >password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up > > >to >people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same > > >result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested. > > > > For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not > > highlight"selecting a non-English keyboard map"，we QA may tends to > > use English keyboard map only. > > for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English > > install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying. > > If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should > be free to do it as they see fit. We might set up some "testing > introduction" page and describe these principles. But I agree with > you, in order to encourage using different keymaps, we can explicitly > say it's allowed. That's why I proposed: > "We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an > English keymap." So the reason this case is as it is right now is that when the issue of keymap problems first came up, I considered writing separate 'keymap' test cases, but it seemed a bit artificial: the 'non-US keymap encrypted partitioning test case' would have been a copy/paste of the encryption test case, but with 'use a non-US keymap' added. Seemed a bit silly, and it didn't seem that hard just to add it into the existing test case. While you're testing encryption, you may as well make sure it works with a non-US
Re: update some testcases
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 15:49 -0500, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > From: Adam Williamson
> > Sure, but then you've just switched modes. The decisions you made on
> the
> > Guided path are wiped out. This could be made clearer in the UI,
> though
> > - I've seen several users report that they expected to be able to,
> say,
> > delete partitions in Guided mode, then create them in Custom mode.
>
> I did that just today with my desktop machine. I wanted to leverage
> the Guided feature for most of the setup, but needed to rm the home
> partition since I have that via NFS.
>
> To me the existing naming seemed fairly clear. In a Guided mode, I
> expect to have the way led for me, but I should be allowed to
> deviate. With a Manual mode I expect to lead the way, but also be
> offered tools to make that easier. I guess I didn't think of it so
> much as modes though, as much of a initial question of how much
> assistance was I going to require.
Thinking of it as 'modes' is more kind of a tool for debugging / QA, so
far as the 'UI experience' goes, it is actually meant to 'look' more the
way you thought of it ('how much assistance am I going to require'). But
for QA / dev purposes, it's most helpful to keep a sort of mental map of
all the possible workflows / modes in anaconda, and understand that the
whole partitioning step is kind of a mini-wizard mode with two major
branches ('guided' and 'custom').
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Re: update some testcases
> From: Adam Williamson > Sure, but then you've just switched modes. The decisions you made on the > Guided path are wiped out. This could be made clearer in the UI, though > - I've seen several users report that they expected to be able to, say, > delete partitions in Guided mode, then create them in Custom mode. I did that just today with my desktop machine. I wanted to leverage the Guided feature for most of the setup, but needed to rm the home partition since I have that via NFS. To me the existing naming seemed fairly clear. In a Guided mode, I expect to have the way led for me, but I should be allowed to deviate. With a Manual mode I expect to lead the way, but also be offered tools to make that easier. I guess I didn't think of it so much as modes though, as much of a initial question of how much assistance was I going to require. PS. I may have all the names horfed up here. I've only used the new anaconda this once. I've installed F18 hundreds of times already, but always via kickstarts ala livecd-tools. -- John Florian -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 04:58 -0500, Lili Nie wrote: > Hi Kamil, >I still feel confused about this.In my mind,we can change "mode" > during one install.ie,if we changed sth we are in so called custom > mode,after that, if we click the blue text > "Create partition layout automatically" we are in Guided mode then. No, that's still custom mode. As long as you're in the custom dialog, you're in custom mode. The 'Create partition layout automatically' function is just a little helper. > We can also change the mode to "custom mode" by changing sth after we > are in Guided mode. Sure, but then you've just switched modes. The decisions you made on the Guided path are wiped out. This could be made clearer in the UI, though - I've seen several users report that they expected to be able to, say, delete partitions in Guided mode, then create them in Custom mode. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: update some testcases
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:02 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > >I think we should create a separate wiki page "QA:Anaconda
> > >partitioning", that explains the differences between the "guided
> > >partitioning" and "custom partitioning", and also between
> > >>"autopart" and "manual partitioning". Ideally with screenshots.
> > >Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
> > >disk using method A or B (or any of them). In >this case, I think
> > >we only mandate "autopart", nothing else.
> >Hi Kamil,
> >I feel a little confused,in"guided partitioning mode",we do"auto
> >partitiong",in"custom partitioning mode",we do"manual
> >partitiong",
> >actually,there is no "guided partitioning mode" or"custom
> >partitioning mode",we do default install then we can
> >call it"guided partitiong mode" if we change something,we can say
> >it in"custom partitiong mode", As for "auto
> >partitioning",we only need to click"continue".Am I right?
>
> Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete
> partitions, nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set
> up the partitions to your will.
>
> Automatic partitioning ("autopart") is an approach of letting Anaconda
> create the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided
> mode and _can_ be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text
> "Create partition layout automatically"). Manual partitioning is the
> approach of doing everything by yourself, basically it is a custom
> mode without using autopart.
>
> I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe
> different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment
> on terminology?
That's how I've been doing it so far. It feels like we could somehow
come up with better names, but no-one has yet :)
The dialog which pops up after you select disks for installation - and
either says 'You have enough space, you're all set!' or 'You don't have
enough space, you need to free some up!' - is the branch point for
'Guided' vs. 'Custom' install. Both versions of that dialog have a
checkbox whose label says something about 'Customize the layout'. If you
check that checkbox and then proceed from the dialog, you are now in the
'custom partitioning' flow. If you leave the checkbox unchecked and
proceed from the dialog, you are now in the 'guided partitioning' flow.
If you had enough space, and you don't check the box, then you are now
done with partitioning, there is no further screen in the flow - but we
still refer to it as the 'guided partitioning' flow.
As kparal says, the 'autopart' algorithm can actually be invoked from
each path. 'Guided partitioning' always uses the 'autopart' algorithm to
actually create the final partition layout. In 'custom partitioning' you
can choose to use it, by clicking the 'Create partition layout
automatically' text Kamil mentioned. Or you can choose not to use it,
and to actually create each partition manually. I probably wouldn't want
to try and use the term 'manual partitioning' to mean 'custom
partitioning without using the 'autopart' link', that seems
unnecessarily confusing - really, 'custom partitioning' is still 'custom
partitioning' whether you clicked the 'autopart' link or not.
>
> > >In the original text there is also:
> > ># Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and
> > >entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an
> > >English keyboard map
> > >Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on
> > >"repeat-several-times" test cases. We can explicitly say the
> > >password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up
> > >to >people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same
> > >result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.
> >
> > For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not
> > highlight"selecting a non-English keyboard map"，we QA may tends to
> > use English keyboard map only.
> > for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English
> > install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying.
>
> If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should
> be free to do it as they see fit. We might set up some "testing
> introduction" page and describe these principles. But I agree with
> you, in order to encourage using different keymaps, we can explicitly
> say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
> "We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an
> English keymap."
So the reason this case is as it is right now is that when the issue of
keymap problems first came up, I considered writing separate 'keymap'
test cases, but it seemed a bit artificial: the 'non-US keymap encrypted
partitioning test case' would have been a copy/paste of the encryption
test case, but with 'use a non-US keymap' added. Seemed a bit silly, and
it didn't seem that hard just to add it into the existing test case.
While you're testing encrypt
Re: update some testcases
- Original Message -
From: "Kamil Paral"
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:02:22 AM
Subject: Re: update some testcases
>>>I think we should create a separate wiki page "QA:Anaconda
>>>partitioning", that explains the differences between the "guided
>>>partitioning" and "custom partitioning", and also between
>>>"autopart" and "manual partitioning". Ideally with screenshots.
>>>Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
>>>disk using method A or B (or any of them). In >this case, I think
>> >we only mandate "autopart", nothing else.
>>Hi Kamil,
>> I feel a little confused,in"guided partitioning mode",we do"auto
>>partitiong",in"custom partitioning mode",we do"manual
>>partitiong",
>>actually,there is no "guided partitioning mode" or"custom
>>partitioning mode",we do default install then we can
>>call it"guided partitiong mode" if we change something,we can say
>>it in"custom partitiong mode", As for "auto
>>partitioning",we only need to click"continue".Am I right?
>Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete partitions,
>nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set up the partitions to
>your will.
>Automatic partitioning ("autopart") is an approach of letting Anaconda create
>the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided mode
>and _can_ be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text "Create partition
>layout automatically").
> Manual partitioning is the approach of doing everything by yourself,
> basically it is a custom mode without using >autopart.
>I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe
>different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment on
>terminology?
Hi Kamil,
I still feel confused about this.In my mind,we can change "mode" during one
install.ie,if we changed sth we are in so called custom mode,after that, if we
click the blue text
"Create partition layout automatically" we are in Guided mode then.We can also
change the mode to "custom mode" by changing sth after we are in Guided mode.
>If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should be free
>to do it as they see fit. We might set up some "testing introduction" page and
>describe these >principles. But I agree with you, in order to encourage using
>different keymaps, we can explicitly say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
>"We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English
>keymap."
However,if we say the password_might not_be set using an English keymap,
people will using a non-English keymap.Then the English one will not be tested.
>Yes, that's basically the same. I prefer to not quote the button labels
>("option for using the free space" instead of "choose 'use free space'").
yeah,that's better.
>> >Thanks for your work. When you're at it, could you please try to
> >>create the "QA:Anaconda partitioning" wiki page with a few
> >>screenshots and a short description what "guided >partitioning
> >>mode", "custom partitioning mode", "auto partitioning", and "manual
> >>partitioning" are? I believe that would be very useful for lots of
> >>our test cases. Then we can >update some of them with links as
> >>proposed above.
>
>
>>Thanks a lot for your comments .But,er..it seems that there is no
>>need to take sreenshot,as the anaconda's explanation is clear
>>enough.
>I imagine a page with a screenshot of guided mode screen, and a screenshot of
>custom mode screen. It would be used to illustrate what is the guided mode and
>what is the custom mode. >There doesn't need to be a lot of description, just
>saying "this is the guided mode" and "this is the custom mode" is enough. We
>can then link the page, people will have a look at >it and in 10 seconds they
>will understand which parts of anaconda they should work with to verify the
>test case.
Actually,what I concerned is that,there are so many guided mode screen and
custome mode screen during one install,what's more, that's what people can see
immediately they click the button.
>Thanks for working on this.
It's my pleasure.Actually,it's what I should do:)
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> >I think we should create a separate wiki page "QA:Anaconda
> >partitioning", that explains the differences between the "guided
> >partitioning" and "custom partitioning", and also between
> >>"autopart" and "manual partitioning". Ideally with screenshots.
> >Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
> >disk using method A or B (or any of them). In >this case, I think
> >we only mandate "autopart", nothing else.
>Hi Kamil,
>I feel a little confused,in"guided partitioning mode",we do"auto
>partitiong",in"custom partitioning mode",we do"manual
>partitiong",
>actually,there is no "guided partitioning mode" or"custom
>partitioning mode",we do default install then we can
>call it"guided partitiong mode" if we change something,we can say
>it in"custom partitiong mode", As for "auto
>partitioning",we only need to click"continue".Am I right?
Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete partitions,
nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set up the partitions to
your will.
Automatic partitioning ("autopart") is an approach of letting Anaconda create
the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided mode and _can_
be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text "Create partition layout
automatically"). Manual partitioning is the approach of doing everything by
yourself, basically it is a custom mode without using autopart.
I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe
different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment on
terminology?
> >In the original text there is also:
> ># Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and
> >entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an
> >English keyboard map
> >Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on
> >"repeat-several-times" test cases. We can explicitly say the
> >password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up
> >to >people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same
> >result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.
>
> For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not
> highlight"selecting a non-English keyboard map"，we QA may tends to
> use English keyboard map only.
> for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English
> install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying.
If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should be free
to do it as they see fit. We might set up some "testing introduction" page and
describe these principles. But I agree with you, in order to encourage using
different keymaps, we can explicitly say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
"We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English keymap."
>
> >>
> >> Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
> >> How to test
> >> Boot the installer using any available means
> >> Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
> >> Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation,
> >> choosing
> >> all provided defaults
> >> As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the
> >> Autopartitioning Options
>
> >This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be
> >used. I think this would do:
>
> ># Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the
> >existing partitions. That should be the default behavior of
> >graphical installer when you select the target disk >and follow the
> >default choices. In text mode, there is a special option for using
> >the free space.
>
> For this,we can add one sentence:
> How to test
>Boot the installer using any available means
>Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
>Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
>all provided defaults，
>and make sure the existing partitions are not modified
>As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the
>Autopartitioning Options
Yes, that's basically the same. I prefer to not quote the button labels
("option for using the free space" instead of "choose 'use free space'").
> >Thanks for your work. When you're at it, could you please try to
> >create the "QA:Anaconda partitioning" wiki page with a few
> >screenshots and a short description what "guided >partitioning
> >mode", "custom partitioning mode", "auto partitioning", and "manual
> >partitioning" are? I believe that would be very useful for lots of
> >our test cases. Then we can >update some of them with links as
> >proposed above.
>
>
>Thanks a lot for your comments .But,er..it seems that there is no
>need to take sreenshot,as the anaconda's explanation is clear
>enough.
I imagine a page with a screenshot of guided mode screen, and a screenshot of
custom mode screen. It would be used to illustrate what is the guided mode and
what
Re: update some testcases
- Original Message - From: "Kamil Paral" To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:43:15 AM Subject: Re: update some testcases >> Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install >> How to test >> Boot the installer using any available means >> Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted >> you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your >> disk >> or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom >> partitioning your disk >The sentence above is the only change I see from the original text (please >note the correct word is "to encrypt"). >I think we should create a separate wiki page "QA:Anaconda partitioning", that >explains the differences between the "guided partitioning" and "custom >partitioning", and also between >"autopart" and "manual partitioning". Ideally >with screenshots. Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to >encrypt the disk using method A or B (or any of them). In >this case, I think >we only mandate "autopart", nothing else. Hi Kamil, I feel a little confused,in"guided partitioning mode",we do"auto partitiong",in"custom partitioning mode",we do"manual partitiong", actually,there is no "guided partitioning mode" or"custom partitioning mode",we do default install then we can call it"guided partitiong mode" if we change something,we can say it in"custom partitiong mode", As for "auto partitioning",we only need to click"continue".Am I right? >> Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing >> all provided defaults >> After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup >> to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the >> encrypted partitioning >In the original text there is also: ># Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a >passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map >Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on "repeat-several-times" >test cases. We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an >English keymap. It's then up to >people to choose. In several test runs we >will receive the same result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested. For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not highlight"selecting a non-English keyboard map"，we QA may tends to use English keyboard map only. for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying. >> >> Testcase:: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap >> How to test >> Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, >> PXE, or DVD) >> Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the >> partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue >Instead of updating these instructions in every test case for every anaconda >string change, this should link to "QA:Anaconda partitioning". That would be >just a single page to keep >updated. Then we can provide generic instructions: ># In the partitioning screen, enter the [[QA:Anaconda >partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] and have the installer set up a >[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#autopart|default >partitioning layout]]. ># Remove swap partition from the default layout. ># Proceed with installation. I think it's a good suggestion,and I will try to modify the testcases in this way >> >> Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install >> How to test >> Boot the installer using any available means >> Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted >> Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing >> all provided defaults >> As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the >> Autopartitioning Options >This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be used. I >think this would do: ># Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the existing >partitions. That should be the default behavior of graphical installer when >you select the target disk >and follow the default choices. In text mode, >there is a special option for using the free space. For this,we can add one sentence: How to test Boot the
Re: update some testcases
> > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted > you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your > disk > or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom > partitioning your disk The sentence above is the only change I see from the original text (please note the correct word is "to encrypt"). I think we should create a separate wiki page "QA:Anaconda partitioning", that explains the differences between the "guided partitioning" and "custom partitioning", and also between "autopart" and "manual partitioning". Ideally with screenshots. Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think we only mandate "autopart", nothing else. > Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing > all provided defaults > After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup > to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the > encrypted partitioning In the original text there is also: # Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on "repeat-several-times" test cases. We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up to people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested. > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted > Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing > all provided defaults > As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the > Autopartitioning Options This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be used. I think this would do: # Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the existing partitions. That should be the default behavior of graphical installer when you select the target disk and follow the default choices. In text mode, there is a special option for using the free space. And we should have one more expected result: # The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only into the previously free space. > > Testcase:: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, > PXE, or DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue Instead of updating these instructions in every test case for every anaconda string change, this should link to "QA:Anaconda partitioning". That would be just a single page to keep updated. Then we can provide generic instructions: # In the partitioning screen, enter the [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] and have the installer set up a [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#autopart|default partitioning layout]]. # Remove swap partition from the default layout. # Proceed with installation. >Testcase:: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, > PXE, or DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click > Customize > Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and > select Finish Partitioning > Complete the installation Similar to above. Again, let's try to keep the instructions generic if the functionality is obvious. There is no need to say "click Customize". We can simply say "change the root (/) file system to ext3". If some one is unable to figure out the approach, he/she won't be able to fill in bugzilla report anyway. We don't target complete Linux newbies here. > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, > PXE, or DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click > Customize > Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and > select Finish Partitioning > Complete the installation Same as above. > > Testcase:: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/
Re: update some testcases
I am happy to see some changes in the test wiki page, and expecting for your feedback. Thanks! On 12-12-28 04:38, Lili Nie wrote: > Hi all, > > I have taken part in the "improve the test wiki page"proposed by Tao Wu. > As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the "test wiki > page"seem to be inapplicable. > I suggest to modify some of them, as the following: > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted > you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk > or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom > partitioning your disk > Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all > provided defaults > After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to > ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means > Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted > Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all > provided defaults > As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the > Autopartitioning Options > Complete the installation > > Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by > anaconda, and select Finish Partitioning > Complete the installation > >Testcase:: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition > How to test > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize > Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and select > Finish Partitioning > Complete the installation > > > Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize > Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and select > Finish Partitioning > Complete the installation > > Testcase:: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition > Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or > DVD) > Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the > partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue > At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize > Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,select > Standard Partition for Device type > Select Finish Partitioning，and Complete the installation > >Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision >on the changes, I will update the wiki-page. > > Thank you, > Lili Nie > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- Best Regards, Tao Wu -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
update some testcases
Hi all, I have taken part in the "improve the test wiki page"proposed by Tao Wu. As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the "test wiki page"seem to be inapplicable. I suggest to modify some of them, as the following: Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning your disk Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all provided defaults After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install How to test Boot the installer using any available means Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all provided defaults As for the text mode, you should choose"use free space"for the Autopartitioning Options Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by anaconda, and select Finish Partitioning Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition How to test Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and select Finish Partitioning Complete the installation Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and select Finish Partitioning Complete the installation Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD) Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,select Standard Partition for Device type Select Finish Partitioning，and Complete the installation Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision on the changes, I will update the wiki-page. Thank you, Lili Nie -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
