[Texascavers] Fwd: 15th ICS – New sponsor and other news

2009-07-12 Thread Mixon Bill

Forwarded by Mixon:

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Date: July 11, 2009 10:42:41 PM CDT
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Subject: 15th ICS – New sponsor and other news

Dear Friends,

The 15th International Congress of Speleology (ICS) begins one week  
from tomorrow, on Sunday, 19 July 2009. Below is an important  
announcement and some news you may find helpful.


The ICS has a new sponsor! Save the Laja is a non-profit organized  
formed to protect the watershed of the Rio Laja in Mexico. Its  
interests have broadened to other environmental topics, and it is  
sponsoring the ICS as a means of supporting the dissemination of  
information on White Nose Syndrome and other important issues. You can  
learn more about Save the Laja at http://rio-laja.org/english/Who%20we%20are/about_save_the_laja.htm 
.


Scott McCrea made a quick Google Map of Kerrville, Schreiner  
University, landmarks and attractions at http://tinyurl.com/ICSmap.  
Zoom out/in, pan around, change to satellite view, show pictures and  
videos taken from specific locations. You can access this map on your  
smartphones or from the Internet to help plan your trip. If you want  
to help improve the map or add anything, contact Scott at swa...@gmail.com 
.


Scott is also hosting a workshop at the ICS and sends this announcement:

“Come see what's in cave packs from around the world. Show the world  
what's in your cave pack. This Saturday afternoon workshop (1400-1700,  
MS211) will be ‘What's in your cave pack?’ Bring your pack/kit/bag/ 
etc. and show other cavers what you carry and why. Get ideas and tips  
from cavers from around the globe. If you can't bring your pack, take  
a picture of the pack and its contents, so you can tell us about the  
things you carry. Come share and learn! Free poster for all  
participants!


While you are looking in your packs, do you have an old piece of  
equipment for climbing or descending ropes? Gary Storrick is bringing  
his display of such equipment. It is the largest collection in the  
world and has many rare and unusual pieces. Gary would be very  
interesting in adding to the collection, which will be on display at  
the ICS. If you think you may have something interesting, contact Gary  
through his website, http://storrick.cnchost.com/VerticalDevicesPage/VerticalHome.shtml 
, where you can also see and read about this amazing collection of  
equipment.


One last note. When you arrive at the ICS you will be tired but also  
curious about where everything is located. When you finish  
registering, to the Theater Room near Registration and sit and rest. A  
PowerPoint presentation will be playing automatically and  
continuously. It is a 5-minute orientation to the ICS and where  
everything important to you is located at Schreiner University. Go  
rest and watch it for a few minutes. You will be glad you did.


And I will be glad to see you soon,

George

George Veni, Ph.D.
Chairman, 15th International Congress of Speleology
Adjunct Secretary, International Union of Speleology
Executive Director, U.S. National Cave and Karst Research Institute

P.S.: By the time you read this message, I will be in Kerrville with  
other members of the Organizing Committee to prepare the site for you.  
If you try to reach me or others on the committee between now and the  
ICS, please remember that we will be traveling, working, and may be  
slow or unable to respond.



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[Texascavers] Fwd: 15th ICS - RV Parking and Sponsorship correction

2009-07-12 Thread Mixon Bill



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Date: July 12, 2009 12:22:53 PM CDT
To: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
Subject: 15th ICS - RV Parking and Sponsorship correction

Dear Friends,

Some of you are driving to the 15th International Congress of  
Speleology in RVs. I previously noted that RVs are not allowed on  
Schreiner University. This caused some problems for a few of you and  
we have made arrangements with the university to solve or at least  
reduce the problem.


If you drive to Kerrville in an RV and don't have a car, motorcycle,  
or bicycle with you to get you onto the university, or are not able to  
coordinate a ride with friends, then you can park in a designated  
parking lot on campus. The reason I qualify the statement with cars,  
bikes, etc. is because it is a small parking lot. Depending on the  
size of the RVs, perhaps as few as four or as many as 10 will fit, so  
I appreciate your help in keeping space available for those who do not  
have other options. The parking lot is on the north side of the  
Delaney dormitory, across the street from the building where you will  
register for the ICS. The lot will be marked with an RV Parking Only  
sign. This is not for camping or overnight parking.


If you find the parking lot is full (parking, like other ICS  
activities will be on a first come, first served basis as space is  
available), you will have to find an off-campus location to park.  
Maybe while driving on campus you will find a friend who can follow  
you in car and give you a ride back.


We hope this helps. I'm sending this message from the university where  
many people have come this weekend to prepare the campus and make the  
ICS the best possible experience for you.


ELIST MANAGER'S NOTE: In a previous message, Salvemos al Rio Laja  
was noted as an ICS sponsor. This is incorrect. The sponsor should  
have been listed as Save the Laja. I apologize for any confusion  
this may have caused.


George

George Veni, Ph.D.
Chairman, 15th International Congress of Speleology
Adjunct Secretary, International Union of Speleology
Executive Director, U.S. National Cave and Karst Research Institute


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[Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Mixon Bill
Wi-Fi? Cell-phone access? Haven't you people ever heard of vacations?  
-- Mixon


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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu


Wi-Fi? Cell-phone access? Haven't you people ever heard of vacations? -- 


For most of us volunteers, the week long ICS is not a vacation and 
having cell phone and internet access is important in coordinating our 
efforts.


--
Lyndon Tiu

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[Texascavers] surveyor

2009-07-12 Thread vivbone

 
 I got the survey contest course for ICS layed out this weekend. I brought a 
Leica,   Total-Station professional land surveying instrument with the 
intention of running a precision survey of the course. But I discovered that 
there are a couple of technical details involved in getting it set up and 
calibrated to North that I could use some help with. Are there any lurking 
caver/surveyors out there who have experience with this? If so, please contact 
me off list.
Thanks!
Vivian Loftin
512-659-9486



Re: [Texascavers] WiFi

2009-07-12 Thread dirtdoc




Wi-Fi? Cell-phone access? Haven't you people ever heard of vacations?   
-- Mixon 



Good point, Bill. 



Perhaps if you wrapped aluminum foil all around The Longest Cave  it would 
providse a place of sanctuary -- 



Dirt Doc

Re: [Texascavers] WiFi

2009-07-12 Thread Gill Edigar
Well, when you can get 2 bars from MovieStar sitting at the table in the
Brinco field house the concept of vacation solitude sorta becomes
nebulous--especially if there's a phone junky to hand.
--Ediger


On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:22 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:



 Wi-Fi? Cell-phone access? Haven't you people ever heard of vacations?
 -- Mixon



 Good point, Bill.



 Perhaps if you wrapped aluminum foil all around The Longest Cave  it would
 providse a place of sanctuary --



 Dirt Doc



[Texascavers] The Photo Cube Project

2009-07-12 Thread Ernest Garza
The photo box will be at ICS. It will be unattended, but will have 
instructions on how to take the best photos, tripod provided. Anyone can 
take photos of someone else, and later, if I get enough photos sent to 
me, I will collect and send them out via a photo program like Picasa. 
Shoot them photos--help make the cube project a success!


-Ernie G

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[Texascavers] ICS Stuffing Party Reminder, San Antonio, July 14-15

2009-07-12 Thread ellie :)
Texas Cavers near and far,

Come one come all for some pre-ICS stuffing party fun!

July 14th  15th, 2009 (Tue  Wed evening)

We will be doing assembly line style stuffing of 1,000+ convention
satchels that have all of the guidebooks and convention swag for the
ICS registrants.

Come stay one day or stay for both. There is lots of land for camping
and bathrooms and showers in the house. Plan to bring $5 for a group
supper of pizza and BYOB to add to the revelry.

Take the train, take the bus, hitch a ride or take your car to:

11303 Dreamland Drive
San Antonio, TX 78230

You can reach me at cell #(509) 899-0007


[Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Denise P

The website says 1273 people are registered to date. Did I hear the figure 2000 
people being thrown around?

 

-Denise

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FW: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Denise P

While early registration has been closed since last month, the number of 
registrants has been climbing as we've finalized some registrations that needed 
extra effort to process. This morning I received the final count for early 
registration: 1,287.

Our initial total registration estimate was 2,000. The global economic crisis 
is the prime culprit at reducing our estimated attendance to 1,500-1,600. I've 
heard from many people in the US and abroad who said that normally they would 
not have had any trouble coming to the ICS, except for the current economic 
situation. Nonetheless, this still be a huge event with people coming from 52 
countries.

Live from the ICS site in Kerrville,

George


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To: TexasCaverstexascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS


The website says 1273 people are registered to date. Did I hear the figure 2000 
people being thrown around?
 
-Denise



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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu

 The website says 1273 people are registered to date. Did I hear the
 figure 2000 people being thrown around?


Go to the TSA website:

http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html

Go to the members area, go to the Texas Caver Online section (the 
electronic version of the Texas Caver) and look for the:


2008 Quarter 3 (PDF) 14.9 MB

Go to page 17, first paragraph, 4th sentence.

--
Lyndon Tiu

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Gill Edigar
Ya got your 3-digit temps and your WNS playing havoc wif your registrators.
--Ediger

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Denise P pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote:

  The website says 1273 people are registered to date. Did I hear the figure
 2000 people being thrown around?

 -Denise

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu

Gill Edigar wrote:

Ya got your 3-digit temps and your WNS playing havoc wif your registrators.



Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip leaders/van 
drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too.


--
Lyndon Tiu

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Gill Edigar
They should be registering--and paying. No free ride here, boy howdy.
--Ediger

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Gill Edigar wrote:

 Ya got your 3-digit temps and your WNS playing havoc wif your
 registrators.


 Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip leaders/van
 drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too.


 --
 Lyndon Tiu

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu

They should be registering--and paying. No free ride here, boy howdy.



I don't think anyone is getting a free ride, they are helping the ICS 
but are NOT getting any of the benefits of a paid ICS registration 
(parties, free beer, banquets, etc.).


We should be glad they are giving some of their time to help the ICS for 
free.


FYI: I am registered (I paid my $200 back in Dec 2008) ... but I think 
volunteers should get a free ride. But that's totally my opinion.



On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca 
mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:


Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip
leaders/van drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too.



--
Lyndon Tiu

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS

2009-07-12 Thread Don Cooper
Yeah, well maybe we should, but we're not.   Perhaps I could have
volunteered through the whole thing and not registered, but not with my head
held high.  Not when so many others HAVE paid essentially to work for free.


-WaV

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 They should be registering--and paying. No free ride here, boy howdy.



 I don't think anyone is getting a free ride, they are helping the ICS but
 are NOT getting any of the benefits of a paid ICS registration (parties,
 free beer, banquets, etc.).

 We should be glad they are giving some of their time to help the ICS for
 free.

 FYI: I am registered (I paid my $200 back in Dec 2008) ... but I think
 volunteers should get a free ride. But that's totally my opinion.



  On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca mailto:
 l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip
leaders/van drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too.


 --
 Lyndon Tiu

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[ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Nico Escamilla
All

About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
that makes its way in, I put it back together
and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and supposedly
the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below water
boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he said
the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could be
causing this?

thanks for any and all help

Nico


Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
and heatsink.

91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 All

 About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
 that makes its way in, I put it back together
 and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
 spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and supposedly
 the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below water
 boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he said
 the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
 anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could be
 causing this?

 thanks for any and all help

 Nico



Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Nico Escamilla
Thanks Charles

I do recall seeing the paste dry.. should I just peel it off and put new one
on?

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
 another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
 seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
 and heatsink.

 91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  All
 
  About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
  that makes its way in, I put it back together
  and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
  spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and
 supposedly
  the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below
 water
  boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he
 said
  the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
  anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could
 be
  causing this?
 
  thanks for any and all help
 
  Nico
 



Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I would, clean it good with alcohol or something that won't corrode
copper or aluminum and a soft rag or a worn out sock :)

Will you be attending ICS?Hopefully we'll get to meet up.

Charles

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Charles

 I do recall seeing the paste dry.. should I just peel it off and put new one
 on?

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org
 wrote:

 Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
 another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
 seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
 and heatsink.

 91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  All
 
  About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the
  dirt
  that makes its way in, I put it back together
  and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu
  starts
  spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and
  supposedly
  the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below
  water
  boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he
  said
  the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
  anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could
  be
  causing this?
 
  thanks for any and all help
 
  Nico