Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins

2008-09-12 Thread Ted Samsel
You had Euro-trash toffs and nobs on the Egyptian grand tour in the 19th c. 
putting their mark on dynstic steles. Historic graffiti. 

As are the scrawls of cowboys & herders in the Southwest..

Where one draws the line depends on the site(s).

T.

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>From: "J. LaRue Thomas" 
>Sent: Sep 12, 2008 9:54 AM
>To: Texascavers@texascavers.com, Nancy Weaver 
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins
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>Graffiti definition (Webster): unauthorized writing or drawing on a public 
>surface. From Italian graffito (singular) graffiti (plural)
>
>So unless the cave painting people were unauthorized, I guess their drawings 
>and paintings were always safe. We are still left thinking about the over 50 
>years ago but contemporary writing, though. Since the word wasn't in use in 
>English until 1946 maybe we didn't have the concept, either, so those 
>scribbles, carvings and paintings were safe before 1946 (except, of course, 
>from Italians). Jacqui
>
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>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins
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>> >An interesting article on what the Park Service is trying to do to repair 
>> >the vandalism to and deterioration of some of the Service's oldest sites. 
>> >These include contemporary graffiti in shelter caves and other habitation 
>> >sites.
>>
>> ah what a dilemna  graffiti is and arent we grateful that historic and 
>> prehistoric graffiti (cave art, inscriptions over 50 years old) werent 
>> 'repaired' contemporaneously.   and would it be vandalism to clean up 
>> ancient graffiti?
>>
>> Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins

2008-09-12 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
Graffiti definition (Webster): unauthorized writing or drawing on a public 
surface. From Italian graffito (singular) graffiti (plural)


So unless the cave painting people were unauthorized, I guess their drawings 
and paintings were always safe. We are still left thinking about the over 50 
years ago but contemporary writing, though. Since the word wasn't in use in 
English until 1946 maybe we didn't have the concept, either, so those 
scribbles, carvings and paintings were safe before 1946 (except, of course, 
from Italians). Jacqui


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From: "Nancy Weaver" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins


>An interesting article on what the Park Service is trying to do to repair 
>the vandalism to and deterioration of some of the Service's oldest sites. 
>These include contemporary graffiti in shelter caves and other habitation 
>sites.


ah what a dilemna  graffiti is and arent we grateful that historic and 
prehistoric graffiti (cave art, inscriptions over 50 years old) werent 
'repaired' contemporaneously.   and would it be vandalism to clean up 
ancient graffiti?


Nancy

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Re: [Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins

2008-09-11 Thread Nancy Weaver
An interesting article on what the Park Service is trying to do to 
repair the vandalism to and deterioration of some of the Service's 
oldest sites. These include contemporary graffiti in shelter 
caves and other habitation sites.


ah what a dilemna  graffiti is and arent we grateful that historic 
and prehistoric graffiti (cave art, inscriptions over 50 years old) 
werent  'repaired' contemporaneously.   and would it be vandalism to 
clean up ancient graffiti?


Nancy

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[Texascavers] Park Service repairs vandalized ruins

2008-09-10 Thread Louise Power

An interesting article on what the Park Service is trying to do to repair the 
vandalism to and deterioration of some of the Service's oldest sites. These 
include contemporary graffiti in shelter caves and other habitation sites.
 
http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article.aspx?cp-documentid=616373