date:20150514

On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 12:42:22 AM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> El viernes, 15 de mayo de 2015, 0:40:18 (UTC+2), Danielo Rodríguez 
>  escribió: 
> > This banner is too prominent on mobile. It eats vital space for content. 
> It gets worse when you are inputting text. Please take a look at the 
>  screenshot 
>

Yea,
May be it should be reduced to "Jack" and if you click it once, the powered 
by should be activated. 
If you click it again it may jump to tiddlywiki.com

Similar for PCs. If you hover Jack, powered by should slide up, clicking it 
goto site. 
IMO all of this can be done with pure CSS

-m 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Cannot edit a very long tiddler

2015-05-14 Thread Beinan Li

Thanks very much for the details!

Thanks,
Beinan


On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:40 PM, PMario  wrote:

> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 8:24:28 PM UTC+2, Kakyo wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mario! Worked like a charm!
>>
>
> Good :)
>
>
>> I'm not a web developer. Does this mean that there is a set of exposed
>> object API one can call to manipulate the entire wiki in the developer
>> console?
>>
>
> Yes. We are in browser Javascript-land where the environment is sandboxed,
> but everything is public ;)
> Basically the whole TW functionality is covered in $tw. The $tw.wiki.xxx
> functions manipulate the TW internal data store.
>
> If so, where is the API doc?
>>
>
> :) In normal cases I's say read the tests [1], but I have to say: Read the
> source. Especially: boot.js[2] and wiki.js [3]. may be tiddler.js
> Test coverage is at minimum. IMO contribution would be very welcome :)
>
> IMPORTANT: Backup, backup, backup. if you play with your data!
>
> WARNING: If you use those functions in the console, you have the
> possibility to mess things up, in a way, that may not be obvious and may
> cause problems in the future. eg: field names with possible but illegal
> characters like spaces
>
> Using "read" functions like $tw.wiki.getTiddler(), .filterTiddlers() ...
> are not problematic, since they don't modify the store.
>
> On the other hand: .addTiddler(), .deleteTiddler(), ... may give you
> unexpected results. Eg. .addTiddler() needs the right tiddler fields, so
> tiddlers show up in the right sidebar ...
>
> So you are welcome to play with it. .. But use a TestTW instead of your
> production data :)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/editions/test/tiddlers/tests
> [2] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js
> [3]
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/wiki.js
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[tw] Re: Is an inside out TiddlyWiki possible?

2015-05-14 Thread Dave

Thanks for that info Danielo, 

would you mind posting a link to that?

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 1:50:36 AM UTC-6, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
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>
>
> El lunes, 11 de mayo de 2015, 19:06:43 (UTC+2), Dave escribió:
>>
>>  My holy grail would be tiddlers as text files in one folder with one or 
>> more TWs as front ends that could access them.  I've intended to dive 
>> deeper into the node.js (can't remember why it didn't work for me when I 
>> tried it a year ago or so) option.  
>>
>> I think at some point I discovered that you can trigger bash scripts from 
>> TW that could theoretically search the file system (find, grep etc (I 
>> mainly use Linux)) but I don't know how you'd get the info back into the 
>> TW.  Using the bash script method you could even edit files in a separate 
>> system text editor if you wanted, and then you'd just have to reload the 
>> tiddler once that was done.
>>
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> The use case you are describing is possible, but requires a new filesystem 
> sync adaptor. TheDive0 did some work on that area, but I'm not sure of 
> their plugin features. I also played a bit with it, but I leave the idea 
> some weeks ago because something else jumped into my interest.
>
> Regards 
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[tw] Re: What is federation stuff about?

2015-05-14 Thread Greg Davis

Hi Danielo

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it too. Briefly it seems Jeremy has 
found a way to let a TW act as a "server" to "share" designated tiddlers. 
Other TWs could "poll" a list of TWs and import the "shared" tiddlers. It 
was brought up in at least three Hangouts 74, 76` (I think the most 
discussion), 78 (using the mechanism to "serve" plugins for the new way to 
get plugins). Take a look at http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/# to see the 
descriptions of the Hangout discussions. I'm sure someone can give a much 
better explanation. Oh, and thanks for making the encryptTiddler plugin.

Greg

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

2015-05-14 Thread Greg Davis

Maybe it needs placed in the sidebar, like at the bottom of 
$:/core/ui/SideBerLists There it is at the bottom regardless length of 
list. It also is hidden when the sidebar is hidden or when using one of Ton 
Gerner's LeftMenues. Does not bother the story river then. On a new empty 
TiddlyWiki it would show. Or place it below a scrollable area in the 
sidebar so it is always visible? Something like I did with my LeftMenu: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AAD0hwllkUF6ivZ5WZ7awzhBa/custom_5-1-8.html

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[tw] What is federation stuff about?

Hello. Many people here talks about federation. I tried to search about it, but 
thanks to my lack of familiarity with the term and that it is very generic I 
can't find any relevant information. I tried to figure it by context and I 
failed also. I'll be very grateful if someone explains it to me. Thanks in 
advance 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

This banner is too prominent on mobile. It eats vital space for content. It 
gets worse when you are inputting text. Please take a look at the  screenshot 

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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Miller

Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion to 
the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 

I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the 
file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously 
imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio 
tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not 
obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised 
as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a 
25 second clip, import and play it without problems.

Best wishes

Peter

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  > wrote:
>
>> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
>> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
>> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
>> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
>> during grading.
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other 
> audio file formats work as expected?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>  
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>>>
>>> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>>>
>>> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>>>
>>> Embedded Audio
>>>
>>> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
>>> . Embedding isn't suitable for large 
>>> files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the 
>>> TiddlyWiki  file.
>>>
>>> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
>>>  contains an MP3 recording of 
>>> the word "TiddlyWiki ". If you visit 
>>> that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the 
>>> recording.
>>>
>>> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how 
>>> to embed audio.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 6:09:46 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> I've created a very simple version of Mat's idea as a plugin that you can 
> see on the new prerelease:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>

hihi, 
I like it! .. but Jack should head to the left into the page and not out. 
... 

As I saw it, I did expect a popup chat box, that connects me to a 24/7 
helpdesk ;)

-mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Cannot edit a very long tiddler

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 8:24:28 PM UTC+2, Kakyo wrote:
>
> Thanks Mario! Worked like a charm!
>

Good :)

> I'm not a web developer. Does this mean that there is a set of exposed 
> object API one can call to manipulate the entire wiki in the developer 
> console?
>

Yes. We are in browser Javascript-land where the environment is sandboxed, 
but everything is public ;) 
Basically the whole TW functionality is covered in $tw. The $tw.wiki.xxx 
functions manipulate the TW internal data store. 

If so, where is the API doc?
>

:) In normal cases I's say read the tests [1], but I have to say: Read the 
source. Especially: boot.js[2] and wiki.js [3]. may be tiddler.js
Test coverage is at minimum. IMO contribution would be very welcome :)

IMPORTANT: Backup, backup, backup. if you play with your data!

WARNING: If you use those functions in the console, you have the 
possibility to mess things up, in a way, that may not be obvious and may 
cause problems in the future. eg: field names with possible but illegal 
characters like spaces   

Using "read" functions like $tw.wiki.getTiddler(), .filterTiddlers() ... 
are not problematic, since they don't modify the store. 

On the other hand: .addTiddler(), .deleteTiddler(), ... may give you 
unexpected results. Eg. .addTiddler() needs the right tiddler fields, so 
tiddlers show up in the right sidebar ... 

So you are welcome to play with it. .. But use a TestTW instead of your 
production data :)

have fun!
mario

[1] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/editions/test/tiddlers/tests
[2] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js
[3] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/wiki.js

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a global switch to disable "auto-wikiword" on words like ThisOne?

2015-05-14 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 1:07:12 PM UTC-7, Kakyo wrote:
>
> I know the "~" syntax, but I'd like to disable the auto-wikiword globally.
> There used to be a DisableWikiword plugin for TWc. 
> Is there an equivalent feature with TW5?
>

1) Open "AdvancedSearch" (click the magnifying glass next to the search 
input in the sidebar)
2) From the Shadows tab, search for this tiddler:
   $:/core/modules/parsers/wikiparser/rules/wikilink.js
3) Open and edit the tiddler
4) Scroll down to find the "module-type" field
5) Delete this field (press the trash can icon)
6) Press 'done' (the checkmark)
7) Save-and-reload the document for the change to take effect

All automatic WikiWord links are now treated as regular text.
Note that any use of "~" preceding a WikiWord will now show up as a literal 
"~", so you'll have to go back and remove those.
If you want to restore automatic WikiWord linking, just delete the modified 
"wikilink.js" tiddler.  This will restore the default shadow definition. 
 Save-and-reload for the change to take effect.

enjoy,
-e
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

2015-05-14 Thread Mat


>
> I've created a very simple version of Mat's idea as a plugin that you can 
> see on the new prerelease



Cool! 

IMO a subtle, and lightweight, enough "powered by" could be included in the 
the main TW distribution BUT coupled with a very obvious way to disable or 
delete it... perhaps a button/link in the Ctrlpanel>Info where the user 
can't miss it as he is typing the TW title. Could even be a default 
tiddler. IF they leave it displayed, the TW name potentially reaches people 
it would never reach otherwise. Providing it as a separate 
must-be-installed plugin would probably cut the exposure substantially.

<:-)

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[tw] [TW5] Is there a global switch to disable "auto-wikiword" on words like ThisOne?

2015-05-14 Thread Kakyo

I know the "~" syntax, but I'd like to disable the auto-wikiword globally.
There used to be a DisableWikiword plugin for TWc. 
Is there an equivalent feature with TW5?

Thanks!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

2015-05-14 Thread Andrew

+1 and very professional. I will be implementing it on my page asap. Thank you 
for such a wonderful tool Jeremy. I can't wait to see what the future holds for 
you.

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Re: [tw] "Hello there": an idea

2015-05-14 Thread Mat


>
> I was thinking ... should I clone it from GitHub?
>

The easiest way for sure is:
After registering a tiddlyspot name, go to tw.com controlpanel>saving and 
just type in your tspot name+password and click save. (Note it doesn't work 
in FF, to upload a tw5 to tspot the very first time)

:-) 

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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

2015-05-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki

Reza,

4) Continuing with improvement, just as in this post i have access to the 
basic tools on the menu, liks Bold, Numbered list, insert image, text size 
and things that are mostly used, would it not be possible to add these 
things in TW just as they are available here when posting a thread?

> This would make the TW so much more approachable and user friendly. Any 
> thoughts or plans on this? 
>

While it isn't a fully functional plugin yet and not wysiwyg, you might 
consider http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/ which is a modification to the 
text mode editor with the toolbar and many of the standard editing 
features. I haven't updated it since 5.1.8 came out officially since I've 
been working on a wysiwyg version but if it would be helpful, I will update 
it.

And welcome to TiddlyWiki.

Step

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[tw] Re: How to change the date format in tiddlers' headers?

2015-05-14 Thread nbdsp

Many thanks, Eric!

Albert.


On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 8:49:56 PM UTC+4, nbdsp wrote:
>
> Currently the 'modified' date in tiddlers is formatted as relative 
> backward intervals: "10 days ago", "12 min ago" and the like. I'd like to 
> change it to something else. I found a recommendation to create a 
> systemConfig tiddler with the following lines:
>
> config.views.wikified.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm";
> config.macros.timeline.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD (ddd)";
>
> But this hasn't changed the date format in tiddlers' headers. How does one 
> change that date format?
>
> Thanks,
> Albert.
>
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Cannot edit a very long tiddler

2015-05-14 Thread Kakyo

Thanks Mario! Worked like a charm!
I'm not a web developer. Does this mean that there is a set of exposed 
object API one can call to manipulate the entire wiki in the developer 
console?
If so, where is the API doc?

Thanks,
Beinan

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>
> Hi Kakyo,
>
>  - Open the Developer Console with F12
>
>  - Type: $tw.wiki.deleteTiddler("Your tiddler name")
>
> should remove it. 
>
> -m
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[tw] Re: How to change the date format in tiddlers' headers?

2015-05-14 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:49:56 AM UTC-7, nbdsp wrote:
>
> Currently the 'modified' date in tiddlers is formatted as relative 
> backward intervals: "10 days ago", "12 min ago" and the like. I'd like to 
> change it to something else. I found a recommendation to create a 
> systemConfig tiddler with the following lines:
>
> config.views.wikified.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm";
> config.macros.timeline.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD (ddd)";
>
>
Those instructions are for use with TiddlyWiki Classic.

Modern TiddlyWiki (v5+) uses a different approach.

To change the display of the modification date in the tiddler header:

1) from the sidebar, open the "advanced search" tiddler (click on the 
magnifying glass next to the search input field)
2) in the "Shadows" tab, search for
   $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle
3) open that tiddler, and edit it
4) note this widget:
   <$view field="modified" format="relativedate"/>
5) To format the date the way you want, change this to:
   <$view field="modified" format="date" template="-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm"/>

It's even easier to change the date format used in the Recent tab in the 
sidebar:

Using the "advanced search" tab again, search for
   $:/language/RecentChanges/DateFormat
Then, edit that tiddler and change the content to your desired date format 
string.

That should do it.


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Re: [tw] "Hello there": an idea

2015-05-14 Thread Alex Hough

Hi Jeremy,

Yes... I will... I downloaded a version after i made some changes.

I was thinking ... should I clone it from GitHub?

Alex

On 14 May 2015 at 17:40, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Alex
>
> I like it. I'd encourage you to clone tiddlywiki.com to TiddlySpot and
> make more edits. (It's easy to afterwards figure out which tiddlers you
> changed).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Alex Hough  wrote:
>
>> I had a  bash at writing Hello there
>>
>> Welcome to ~TiddlyWiki, a small,[[free|TiddlyWiki is Free]] and
>> [[adaptable|TiddlyWiki is Adaptable]] personal [[wiki|TiddlyWiki is a
>> Personal Wiki]]. Everyday an [[international community]] of people and
>> organisations use and [[continuously develop]] ~TiddlyWiki to help them
>> think and manage their everyday lives. To many users it becomes a
>> collaborator, an extension of the mind, a tool to aid imagination and boost
>> to productivity which can evolve alongside the knowledge being produced.
>>
>> At the core of ~TiddlyWiki is a [[handful of simple concepts]] which,
>> once grasped, can be combined to  stimulate your curiosity and creativity.
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[tw] How to change the date format in tiddlers' headers?

2015-05-14 Thread nbdsp

Currently the 'modified' date in tiddlers is formatted as relative backward 
intervals: "10 days ago", "12 min ago" and the like. I'd like to change it 
to something else. I found a recommendation to create a systemConfig 
tiddler with the following lines:

config.views.wikified.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm";
config.macros.timeline.dateFormat = "-0MM-0DD (ddd)";

But this hasn't changed the date format in tiddlers' headers. How does one 
change that date format?

Thanks,
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Re: [tw] "Hello there": an idea

Hi Alex

I like it. I'd encourage you to clone tiddlywiki.com to TiddlySpot and make
more edits. (It's easy to afterwards figure out which tiddlers you changed).

Many thanks,

Jeremy.


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> Personal Wiki]]. Everyday an [[international community]] of people and
> organisations use and [[continuously develop]] ~TiddlyWiki to help them
> think and manage their everyday lives. To many users it becomes a
> collaborator, an extension of the mind, a tool to aid imagination and boost
> to productivity which can evolve alongside the knowledge being produced.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

Hi Peter

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  wrote:

> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as
> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler
> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is
> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students
> during grading.
>

I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other
audio file formats work as expected?

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
>
> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>>
>> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>>
>> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>>
>> Embedded Audio
>>
>> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki
>> . Embedding isn't suitable for large
>> files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the
>> TiddlyWiki  file.
>>
>> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3
>>  contains an MP3 recording of the
>> word "TiddlyWiki ". If you visit that
>> tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the recording.
>>
>> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how
>> to embed audio.
>>
>> Thanks.
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[tw] Re: chemistry terms become unwanted hyperlinks

2015-05-14 Thread Andy Ritenour

Yes, that worked great! Thanks.

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> Hi Andy, 
> There is a github issue, where I did post a workaround with 3 
> possibilities a)b)c). 
> IMO c) will be for you. see: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1629
> -m
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Re: [tw] is a drop-down Field selector menu possible in Draft Mode?

Hello, 

In my opinion what is needed for the field's field is the same we have with the 
type field. A drop down list of already available values. I asked this a while 
before and Jeremy suggested me a pull request. There is something that is on my 
list, I just to find the time to do so. 

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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

Hello and welcome. 

Regarding formatting I have created a plugin for inserting formatting by 
keyboard shortcuts. Not a what you see is what you get but useful enough. 
Please take a look at braintest.tiddlyspot.com 

Regarding your other concerns, I think what is wrong is your way to format your 
text. Please note that is not the same writing in a notebook than writing text 
digitally. Text needs to be independent from the format to adapt correctly to 
different screen resolutions. There is no reason to keep tree consecutive 
spaces, or to respect a line break if it is not a different paragraph. Maybe 
you need a table for certain information, or just a block of pre-formatted text 
for some code. IMO that is why programs like office are a nightmare to format, 
because they allow you to do things that makes nonsense. I had very bad times 
correcting format in MS Word 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5.1.8] Powered By ?

I've created a very simple version of Mat's idea as a plugin that you can
see on the new prerelease:

http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> http://poweredby.tiddlyspot.com/
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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

2015-05-14 Thread Mat

First of all; warmly welcome Reza

First to my questions:
> 1) i'm trying to add a picture into my articles in a was that you can see 
> a mini version of it in the article but when you click on the image it 
> should open in full size on top of the article (almost like hovering on top 
> of everything). I should be able to close it either by pressing an X on a 
> corner or just click anywhere outside of the image. I see this on many 
> pages over the internet but i have not been able to create this on TW. Is 
> this possible to achieve? 
>

I have no spot-on answer, but you may wish to take a look at;


   - the popup mechansim  (unfortunately 
   documentation or examples seem to be lacking on this) 
   - the linkimg  macro (at 
   Tobias' superb tb5 site) 
   
BTW, I don't quite understand if the "mini version" of the article is the 
image.

 

> 2) I have tested to drag&drop pictures into TW (before i put the images in 
> a folder called img where i had my TW.html). I can see images are stored in 
> something called $:/Import, but where is this exactly? i cant find a way to 
> actually find the files that get imported? 
>

If you're using the standard single file version of TW (as opposed to e.g 
the node.js version) then drag'n dropping an image actuall embeds it, i.e 
it is converted and merged into the html file. (This is also why is may not 
be a good idea to include many large images in this way). The "$:/Import" 
is just a special tiddler listing which tiddlers you've imported last, as a 
kind of confirming summary and to access them easy.

 

> 2.1 If i click on and imported image file that i have in my tiddler 
> -->[[iTunes_Settings.png]] it opens as a separate tiddler below, its here i 
> would want the picture to hover on top of my existing tiddler, basically 
> what i asked in question 1. Can this be done? appreciate some help on this.
>

Yes, if you click in "$:/import" it opens the actual tiddler which in your 
case is titled "iTunes_Settings.png", i.e this is now a tiddler and it has 
an image embedded. You can for instance retitle the tiddler any way you 
want. You will create a new tiddler fro the article and then use the 
imagetiddler in way that depends on how you solve it. (An example; To see a 
simple thumbnail of your image, you can use e.g [img width=20px 
[iTunes_Se...]] )
 

3) Spaces are a hassle in tiddlers (for me anyway), specially row brakes, 
> now i have to do allot of testing with using """ and extra returns just to 
> get the tiddler to look OK. Why is it so hard to get this right? 
>

I think you're referring to that multiples of the space character (keyboard 
space bar) is merged into merely one space, and that single line breaks are 
omitted and that it takes two line breaks which then creates a new 
paragraph. The trick to get one line break is to cut the line with ``. 
For extra space characters you can insert ` ` ("no break space")

I share your frustration with this, but the way it works is intentional.

 

> Improvement:
> 4) Continuing with improvement, just as in this post i have access to the 
> basic tools on the menu, liks Bold, Numbered list, insert image, text size 
> and things that are mostly used, would it not be possible to add these 
> things in TW just as they are available here when posting a thread?
> This would make the TW so much more approachable and user friendly. Any 
> thoughts or plans on this? 
>

Fellow member Stephen Kimmel is working on a WYSIWYG text editor plugin but 
it is still a bit too rough to be functional. I hope it will get ready for 
release as I think there is a great need for it, particularly for 
newcomers. 
 

Sorry if my post tends to get negative on the end but i do love TW and want 
> it to evolve and improve , its a great utility so keep up the great work! 
>

IMO you bring up things that EVERY newcomer is confused by - and I think it 
is also easy for use who are used to these quirks of TW to forget this. IMO 
these issues are hopefully things that will be solved eventually. I fear 
they may even be deal breakers for some because they are immediately 
discovered, in the very early "evaluation phase". If it brings any comfort, 
I can still say that it's worth it. TW is incredible in many (other) 
respects.


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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 1:14:23 PM UTC+2, Reza Ghorbani wrote:
>
> I'm a new TW user and this would be my first post here , being a beginner 
> i got stuck on some things that i have not been able to sort out even after 
> searching around so this is why i post this. I also have a few improvements 
> i like to bring up since i really like the idea behind this project and 
> would like it to be even better :-)
>

Hi, Welcome to the club.  
 

> First to my questions:
> 1) i'm trying to add a picture into my articles in a was that you can see 
> a mini version of it in the article but when you click on the image it 
> should open in full size on top of the article (almost like hovering on top 
> of everything). I should be able to close it either by pressing an X on a 
> corner or just click anywhere outside of the image. I see this on many 
> pages over the internet but i have not been able to create this on TW. Is 
> this possible to achieve? 
>

For the exact behaviour you describe, you'd need a plugin. Other sites use 
libraries to achieve this functionality. The same is valid for TW. 

There is the possibility to use TW built in modal dialog. 

eg: if you copy this into an new tiddler at tiddlywiki.com you can see what 
I mean. 

<$button message="tm-modal" param="Motovun Jack.jpg">
[img width="100" [Motovun Jack.jpg]]


There is a nice thread here in the group: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/eJoZu8G7fng/AdE2KBKlI7AJ
Which gives you some more info. 

I did attach a json file, that you can import to your TW. It should get you 
started with the first version described in the link.
If you go on reading, there is more info how to improve it.

2) I have tested to drag&drop pictures into TW (before i put the images in 
> a folder called img where i had my TW.html). I can see images are stored in 
> something called $:/Import, but where is this exactly? i cant find a way to 
> actually find the files that get imported? 
>

see: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages:ExternalImages%20[[Images%20in%20WikiText]]
 
for more info
 

> 2.1 If i click on and imported image file that i have in my tiddler 
> -->[[iTunes_Settings.png]] it opens as a separate tiddler below, its here i 
> would want the picture to hover on top of my existing tiddler, basically 
> what i asked in question 1. Can this be done? appreciate some help on this.
>

see info above, browsers don't have this behaviour out of the box. 
 

> 3) Spaces are a hassle in tiddlers (for me anyway), specially row brakes, 
> now i have to do allot of testing with using """ and extra returns just to 
> get the tiddler to look OK. Why is it so hard to get this right? 
>

If you insert 2 line breaks TW creates a new paragraph. You should not try 
to include extra linebreaks eg:  .. because it will break your 
formatting with different screen resolutions. 
 

> i want the tiddler to be as easy to do as what i'm doing here on this 
> post. A row break should be a row break, not being forced to do allot of 
> experimenting to get it right? Even the preview is not showing the exact 
> result, i have to save before i actually find out that the text dont look 
> good :( adding images seems to be problematic here so i use dropbox links i 
> guess). 
> is this something you guys are looking to fix in future versions?
>

This behaviour is very hard to change. There are some discussions with many 
pro and cons, at github. 
see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/443
The mentioned issue set to wontfix. So don't expect changes in the near 
future. 

Improvement:
> 4) Continuing with improvement, just as in this post i have access to the 
> basic tools on the menu, liks Bold, Numbered list, insert image, text size 
> and things that are mostly used, would it not be possible to add these 
> things in TW just as they are available here when posting a thread?
> This would make the TW so much more approachable and user friendly. Any 
> thoughts or plans on this? 
>

See: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/stephen$20kimmel$20editor/tiddlywiki/Q1XZ6uGQz8o/dqw5DkcH6Q0J
 
and
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/stephen$20kimmel$20editor/tiddlywiki/IBA3cModVQk/fgZtDst9dUwJ

Stephen's intro at a TW hangout: https://youtu.be/LSqlJOVhLSI?t=8728

and finally: http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/

Have a look at: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Community Others did a lot of 
experiments too. There may be stuff, that is interesting for you.
 

> Sorry if my post tends to get negative on the end but i do love TW and 
> want it to evolve and improve , its a great utility so keep up the great 
> work! 
>

Any feedback is highly welcome. Especially from new users, since it shows 
us, where the problems are. ... 

Even if I personally disagree with some of your views in 3) 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Miller

I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
during grading.

On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>
> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>
> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>
> Embedded Audio
>
> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
> . Embedding isn't suitable for large 
> files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the 
> TiddlyWiki  file.
>
> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
>  contains an MP3 recording of the 
> word "TiddlyWiki ". If you visit that 
> tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the recording.
>
> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how to 
> embed audio.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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[tw] Beginner help and Usability request

2015-05-14 Thread Reza Ghorbani

Hello all,

I'm a new TW user and this would be my first post here , being a beginner i
got stuck on some things that i have not been able to sort out even after
searching around so this is why i post this. I also have a few improvements
i like to bring up since i really like the idea behind this project and
would like it to be even better :-)

First to my questions:
1) i'm trying to add a picture into my articles in a was that you can see a
mini version of it in the article but when you click on the image it should
open in full size on top of the article (almost like hovering on top of
everything). I should be able to close it either by pressing an X on a
corner or just click anywhere outside of the image. I see this on many
pages over the internet but i have not been able to create this on TW. Is
this possible to achieve?

2) I have tested to drag&drop pictures into TW (before i put the images in
a folder called img where i had my TW.html). I can see images are stored in
something called $:/Import, but where is this exactly? i cant find a way to
actually find the files that get imported?
2.1 If i click on and imported image file that i have in my tiddler
-->[[iTunes_Settings.png]] it opens as a separate tiddler below, its here i
would want the picture to hover on top of my existing tiddler, basically
what i asked in question 1. Can this be done? appreciate some help on this.

3) Spaces are a hassle in tiddlers (for me anyway), specially row brakes,
now i have to do allot of testing with using """ and extra returns just to
get the tiddler to look OK. Why is it so hard to get this right?
i want the tiddler to be as easy to do as what i'm doing here on this post.
A row break should be a row break, not being forced to do allot of
experimenting to get it right? Even the preview is not showing the exact
result, i have to save before i actually find out that the text dont look
good :( See the images below for example.
is this something you guys are looking to fix in future versions?

Improvement:
4) Continuing with improvement, just as in this post i have access to the
basic tools on the menu, liks Bold, Numbered list, insert image, text size
and things that are mostly used, would it not be possible to add these
things in TW just as they are available here when posting a thread?
This would make the TW so much more approachable and user friendly. Any
thoughts or plans on this?

Sorry if my post tends to get negative on the end but i do love TW and want
it to evolve and improve , its a great utility so keep up the great work!

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