date:20211001

> My main project is impacted. Some of my macros dealing with json tiddlers 
> are broken. They use the two plugins //modloader// and //json mangler//.

Thank you – any details here would be helpful. What versions of those plugins 
are you using? Which macros are affected?

> On the positive side, it seems that my tiddlers that were too large are now 
> automatically corrected to fit in the current width of the main story.

Excellent – do you mean that the tiddler content previously overflowed its 
background? Perhaps you could share a screenshot?

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

> Is there a way to test the 5.20 final RC with server mode (simple way) 
> please?

The "master" branch at GitHub contains the prerelease. There are instructions 
here:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20Prerelease%20on%20Node.js

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

2021-10-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière

My main project is impacted. Some of my macros dealing with json tiddlers 
are broken. They use the two plugins //modloader// and //json mangler//.

On the positive side, it seems that my tiddlers that were too large are now 
automatically corrected to fit in the current width of the main story.

Le vendredi 1 octobre 2021 à 22:33:51 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Rivière a écrit :

> Is there a way to test the 5.20 final RC with server mode (simple way) 
> please?
>
> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2021 à 17:44:07 UTC+2, cj.v...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> Hey, posts to GG are no longer showing up in TiddlyTalk.
>>
>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-3 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The upcoming TiddlyWiki v5.2.0 is now – finally – ready for release. I’m 
>>> hoping to get it out over the weekend so this is a final request for help 
>>> with last minute checks.
>>>
>>> It’s a huge release, with many very significant changes from a diverse 
>>> range of contributors. Please join me in thanking them all for working so 
>>> hard to make this release such an exciting one.
>>>
>>> It would be useful to have feedback on the release note, and whether the 
>>> descriptions of the changes make sense. Some of the changes are necessarily 
>>> technical things that won’t concern all users, but the aim is for the 
>>> writing to be clear enough that anyone can get the general drift.
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Release%205.2.0
>>>
>>> It would also be a great help if you could try an experimental upgrade 
>>> of your own wikis, and give them a once over to make sure everything still 
>>> works as expected.
>>>
>>> It is recommended to not actually switch over to the new version at this 
>>> point; just give it a try with your own data, but don’t upgrade fully until 
>>> the official release.
>>>
>>> The upgrader is at:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html
>>>
>>> Any feedback or questions are welcome,
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

2021-10-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière

Is there a way to test the 5.20 final RC with server mode (simple way) 
please?

Le vendredi 1 octobre 2021 à 17:44:07 UTC+2, cj.v...@gmail.com a écrit :

> Hey, posts to GG are no longer showing up in TiddlyTalk.
>
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-3 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The upcoming TiddlyWiki v5.2.0 is now – finally – ready for release. I’m 
>> hoping to get it out over the weekend so this is a final request for help 
>> with last minute checks.
>>
>> It’s a huge release, with many very significant changes from a diverse 
>> range of contributors. Please join me in thanking them all for working so 
>> hard to make this release such an exciting one.
>>
>> It would be useful to have feedback on the release note, and whether the 
>> descriptions of the changes make sense. Some of the changes are necessarily 
>> technical things that won’t concern all users, but the aim is for the 
>> writing to be clear enough that anyone can get the general drift.
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Release%205.2.0
>>
>> It would also be a great help if you could try an experimental upgrade of 
>> your own wikis, and give them a once over to make sure everything still 
>> works as expected.
>>
>> It is recommended to not actually switch over to the new version at this 
>> point; just give it a try with your own data, but don’t upgrade fully until 
>> the official release.
>>
>> The upgrader is at:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html
>>
>> Any feedback or questions are welcome,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki - Database

2021-10-01 Thread strikke...@gmail.com

Do you have a link for the database you found?

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 6:19:27 PM UTC+2 bapak...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get along 
> with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
> database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
> Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
> keeper for my car expenses.
>
> Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?
>
> I appreciate very much any valuable input.
>
> best regards, ireng
>

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Re: [tw5] how to add JavaScript to global ?

> I post 3 same  posts  about this topic on google group but all of them been 
> deleted, I don't know why if I break the law of the discuss please let me 
> know first I will correct the error. 

Apologies, your posts appear to have been held up in Google's spam protection 
system. I've now approved them all and so you may want to delete the earlier 
ones.

For some reason, for the last several months Google has been flagging many more 
messages than usual, it's a great nuisance.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki - Database

2021-10-01 Thread 'Bapak Ireng' via TiddlyWiki


Hi Folks,

I am a new user to Twiddlywiki and i am still looking around to get along 
with the system. During my small research I found a sample contacts 
database. However I did not get it to run successfully with the current 
Version 5.1.22. I would like to adopt it run it as a small and easy record 
keeper for my car expenses.

Could anybody point me to a working solutiuon to start with ?

I appreciate very much any valuable input.

best regards, ireng

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[tw5] how to add JavaScript to global ?

I post 3 same  posts  about this topic on google group but all of them been 
deleted, I don't know why if I break the law of the discuss please let me 
know first I will correct the error. 

My question is : 

I want to use the fa from https://fontawesome.com/

which need include a javascript first the html like :

```


  

https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous">
  

  


  

```
so how to add the  https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous"> to global ?

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[tw5] Add js to global

I want to use the fa from https://fontawesome.com/

which need include a javascript first the html like :



  

https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous">
  

  


  


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[tw5] how to add javascript to global ?

I want to use the fa from https://fontawesome.com/

which need include a javascript first the html like :



  

https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous">
  

  


  



so how to add the  https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous"> to global 

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[tw5] how to add javascript to global

I want to use the fa on https://fontawesome.com/

But need add a script first the html is like : 

**
**
*  *
**
*https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous">*
*  *

*  *
**
**
*  *
**



How to add teh code * https://kit.fontawesome.com/.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous"> to global ? *

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[tw5] How to add javascript to global?

I want to use the fontawesome on the site https://fontawesome.com/

Which contains more icons than the 
plugin https://thediveo.github.io/TW5FontAwesome/output/fontawesome.html

But if you want to use the fa from https://fontawesome.com/ you need to 
include a javascript file first. The html like, 

**
**
*  *
**
*https://kit.fontawesome.com/x.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous">*
*  *

*  *
**
**
*  *
**


How do I add the code *https://kit.fontawesome.com/x.js"; 
crossorigin="anonymous"> to global? *

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

Hey, posts to GG are no longer showing up in TiddlyTalk.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-3 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> The upcoming TiddlyWiki v5.2.0 is now – finally – ready for release. I’m 
> hoping to get it out over the weekend so this is a final request for help 
> with last minute checks.
>
> It’s a huge release, with many very significant changes from a diverse 
> range of contributors. Please join me in thanking them all for working so 
> hard to make this release such an exciting one.
>
> It would be useful to have feedback on the release note, and whether the 
> descriptions of the changes make sense. Some of the changes are necessarily 
> technical things that won’t concern all users, but the aim is for the 
> writing to be clear enough that anyone can get the general drift.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Release%205.2.0
>
> It would also be a great help if you could try an experimental upgrade of 
> your own wikis, and give them a once over to make sure everything still 
> works as expected.
>
> It is recommended to not actually switch over to the new version at this 
> point; just give it a try with your own data, but don’t upgrade fully until 
> the official release.
>
> The upgrader is at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html
>
> Any feedback or questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

Having just upgraded five TiddlyWiki instances in a row, the only thing I'd 
love to see improved: could the name of the file dragged into the upgrade 
wizard show somewhere?  For each TiddlyWiki I upgraded, I kept forgetting 
which one I was dealing with (as I was saving upgraded TiddlyWiki files.)

That aside, the process is A-1 and a quick look reveals zero hiccups.  (I 
may have more time tomorrow to dig into the weeds, if release only happens 
Sunday.  Sunday afternoon, to me, sounds like a great time for TiddlyWiki 
church ... )

I doubt any of my TiddlyWikis are of any size or architectural/design 
significance, but just in you do want some variety, here are some pre-5.2 
versions:

   - 
   - Charlie's Favourite Stuff and Projects 
    
(a 
   "multi-context/purpose" TiddlyWiki)
   - TiddlyWiki Programming Fundamentals 
   
   - CJ Veniot  (my online 
   resume)
   - 
   - Charlie's TifoistTW5 Prototype 2 
   
   - Le P'tit Aurèle  (a 
   lexicon of Acadian French)
   
On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-3 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> The upcoming TiddlyWiki v5.2.0 is now – finally – ready for release. I’m 
> hoping to get it out over the weekend so this is a final request for help 
> with last minute checks.
>
> It’s a huge release, with many very significant changes from a diverse 
> range of contributors. Please join me in thanking them all for working so 
> hard to make this release such an exciting one.
>
> It would be useful to have feedback on the release note, and whether the 
> descriptions of the changes make sense. Some of the changes are necessarily 
> technical things that won’t concern all users, but the aim is for the 
> writing to be clear enough that anyone can get the general drift.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Release%205.2.0
>
> It would also be a great help if you could try an experimental upgrade of 
> your own wikis, and give them a once over to make sure everything still 
> works as expected.
>
> It is recommended to not actually switch over to the new version at this 
> point; just give it a try with your own data, but don’t upgrade fully until 
> the official release.
>
> The upgrader is at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html
>
> Any feedback or questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

Silly question: is anybody tracking what 3rd party plugins need upgrading 
to work with TW5.2?

A compatibility matrix of some kind to let people know they should maybe 
upgrade certain plugins first?

A big job for anybody to go test every plugin out there, but I'm thinking 
not so bad if one person (or many) updated a compatibility matrix based on 
user reports.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 10:55:16 AM UTC-3 PMario wrote:

> Hi Folks, 
>
> Since it is a BIG release I think it is important to say, that *if you 
> rely on 3rd party plugins, please test carefully, if all your plugins still 
> work* before switching to the new release. May be some plugins need to be 
> updated. ... 
>
> have fun!
> Mario
>

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[tw5] To structure or not to structure? Depends, eh?

In my latest "brain-age" game (Coding Fun: My take on recipe ingredients
), I've gone all-in
with structured data.

*(Aside: I tend to prefer using data tiddlers over fields, but that's the
kind of conversation that deserves its own thread.)*

Although structured data is very cool, I usually much prefer the
loosey-goosey unstructured data.

Like just about all things, which is better (structured or unstructured)

- it depends

Structured data involves big effort up front, but with substantial benefits
later.

- However, structure done wrong (big analysis up front did not consider
some things until elucidation happened while knee-deep in the thick of it)
can involve big effort re-jigging things if "quickly adjustable re-design"
wasn't built it. (Maintaining documentation, even if just bread-crumbs,
makes a re-jigging effort so much easier, but even maintaining bread-crumbs
can be some effort.)
- Building structure for possible future needs that never happen, that
makes big effort up-front not so pretty re the cost-benefit ratio

Unstructured data involves little effort up-front (immediate benefit), but
could require big effort later: i.e. having to move all of that
unstructured data into fields when structure is needed.

Way too many thoughts about it all to write here. I'd need a dedicated
TiddlyWiki.

All of that to say that my "brain-age" game of structured recipe
ingredients may turn into an expanded game that pits structured recipe
ingredients head-to-head with unstructured ingredients.

Proof in the pudding, advantages and disadvantages to both, maybe some
trickery.

Maybe via a shared TiddlyWiki running on nodejs, on a virtual machine, if
anybody is interested. I do have, I think, enough credit in my Google
Compute Engine to setup a virtual machine for some collaborative
"brain-age" structured vs unstructured recipe tomfoolery for a couple of
months...

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[tw5] Re: Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0

2021-10-01 Thread PMario

Hi Folks, 

Since it is a BIG release I think it is important to say, that *if you rely 
on 3rd party plugins, please test carefully, if all your plugins still work* 
before switching to the new release. May be some plugins need to be 
updated. ... 

have fun!
Mario

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[tw5] Final Call for Testing for TiddlyWiki v5.2.0