Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-10 Thread Jan Johannpeter 
Hi Josiah,
Fountain is a very good Idea... BJ already proposed it some time ago - and
he also furnishes a possible solution:
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Ftypestemplate
unfortunatly i could not find out out how to implement it.
Can anyone get it to work in TW5?

-Jan
@TiddlyTweeter  schrieb am Mo. 10. Apr. 2017 um
14:04:

> Ciao Jan
>
> Further to my last ...
>
> In a discussion on Twitter
>  @Jermolene
> mentioned this too of possible relevance to screenplays:
> https://github.com/azcoppen/screenplay-parser.
> 
>
> I'm pretty convinced TW can do screenplays well. But I think its best if
> they done in a way that an editor basically only sees plain monospaced
> text, because that is all they are.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
> On Sunday, 9 April 2017 00:22:31 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello!
> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that
> process have come to a formatting/CSS question.
> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is
> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?
>
> .role{text-transform: uppercase;}
> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}
>
> It shall be used within this construction
>
> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text..
>  Text Text
>
> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role...
>
>
> Thanks for help
> Jan
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[tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter 
Ciao Jan

Further to my last ...

In a discussion on Twitter 
 @Jermolene 
mentioned this too of possible relevance to screenplays:  
https://github.com/azcoppen/screenplay-parser. 


I'm pretty convinced TW can do screenplays well. But I think its best if 
they done in a way that an editor basically only sees plain monospaced 
text, because that is all they are.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Sunday, 9 April 2017 00:22:31 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello! 
> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that 
> process have come to a formatting/CSS question. 
> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is 
> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling? 
>
> .role{text-transform: uppercase;} 
> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;} 
>
> It shall be used within this construction 
>
> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text.. 
>  Text Text 
>
> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role... 
>
>
> Thanks for help 
> Jan 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter 
Ciao Jan

If you don't know of it--I suggest you have a look at the Fountain project 
which uses a Markdown type system (but its own rulesets devised 
specifically for screenplays) that can then be output to other formats. It 
was devised by a screenwriter. I strongly suspect that the approach they 
take might be adaptable to TW, at least parts of it.

https://fountain.io/faq

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread Jan 

Hi Mat,
I looked at your demo and the Layout is exactly what I want for 
dialogues, very good to see it realized in TW...and good to see how 
relaxed this looks in the EditMode.


To fullfill the needs of a screenwritingprogramm we would need more 
classes: action (parenthetical) and shot.

For example action again should appear without indent.
For the readbility in editimode, it would be great if the class for 
action was invoked with a transclusion

like

{{action}}Description of the action

The transclusion should contain a span class which invokes a specific 
style for the next element.
For the convinience for the users, it would be good if no tag to close 
the style was necessary.
...at that point that we come back to those strange selectors an 
pseudo-classes. https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html#adjacent-selectors.

I still do not see how to get this working in TW.

Yours Jan






Am 09.04.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Mat:

Jan, I made this demo  for you.

Never mind the "surrounding tidbits", they're part of my TW template 
for fast dev. You only have to look at the three concerned tids.


<:-)



On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 9:51:29 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hi Mat,
Perhaps you are right.
I want to create a class which makes the name of the person
speaking in capital letters in the left. And i would like the
dialogue-text following this name to appear indent.
I thought I could use the adjacent sibling selector to make it
indent without further formatting in the text.

As a further difficulty, the span containing the role class will
be transcluded into the tiddler... I do. Not know whether this
changes anything...

Thanks for helping
Jan

Mat > schrieb am So. 9. Apr. 2017
um 02:27:

Hi Jan

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing
things up in a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite
make sense of it. May I propose that you instead describe
exactly what you wish the end result to look like?

<:-)


On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hello!
I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW
and during that
process have come to a formatting/CSS question.
The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my
question is
is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

.role{text-transform: uppercase;}
.role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}

It shall be used within this construction

{{rolename}} Dialoguetext text..
 Text Text

Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role...


Thanks for help
Jan

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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread Jan 

Hi Whatever,
thanks a lot for your help.  I do not know whether styling in 
transclusions still works that way. I thought now it is 
{{tiddler||templateTiddler}}.
Anyway this is a little too complicated. Because this is about editing 
scripts the text has to be readable in editmode.


Greetings Jan


Am 09.04.2017 um 10:14 schrieb whatever:

Hey!
Try this:

in your stylesheet, add the following, but adapt both numbers 
appropriately (they should be identical, but you can experiment with 
different numbers, if you like):

.dialog {padding-left: 130px; text-indent: -130px;}
.text {margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}


Then in your tiddler, you can put the following:
{{dialog{{{role{Your Role Name}}}{{text{ dialog text
more dialog text
more dialog text}}

The "dialog" class determines the style for both the role and the 
text, in this case the indentation, and the "role" class only 
determines the style for the role name. The "text" class determines 
the style for the text. And to answer your question from the topic 
title, a node following a node is its sibling, regardless if it is 
within tags, and a node within a node is its child, but unless you 
actually plan to have a paragraph break after the role name, you need 
to change that rule to the "text" class.


hth,
w

PS: I'm not sure if TW5 also uses {{className{text}}} notation, like 
TWC, but the principle is the same.



On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 9:51:29 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hi Mat,
Perhaps you are right.
I want to create a class which makes the name of the person
speaking in capital letters in the left. And i would like the
dialogue-text following this name to appear indent.
I thought I could use the adjacent sibling selector to make it
indent without further formatting in the text.

As a further difficulty, the span containing the role class will
be transcluded into the tiddler... I do. Not know whether this
changes anything...

Thanks for helping
Jan

Mat > schrieb am So. 9. Apr. 2017
um 02:27:

Hi Jan

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing
things up in a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite
make sense of it. May I propose that you instead describe
exactly what you wish the end result to look like?

<:-)


On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hello!
I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW
and during that
process have come to a formatting/CSS question.
The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my
question is
is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

.role{text-transform: uppercase;}
.role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}

It shall be used within this construction

{{rolename}} Dialoguetext text..
 Text Text

Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role...


Thanks for help
Jan

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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread Jan Johannpeter 
Great, thanks a lot
I am roaming now but I'll be albe to test it this night.
Yours Jan

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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread Mat 
Jan, I made this demo  for you.

Never mind the "surrounding tidbits", they're part of my TW template for 
fast dev. You only have to look at the three concerned tids.

<:-)



On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 9:51:29 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mat,
> Perhaps you are right. 
> I want to create a class which makes the name of the person speaking in 
> capital letters in the left. And i would like the dialogue-text following 
> this name to appear indent. 
> I thought I could use the adjacent sibling selector to make it indent 
> without further formatting in the text.
>
> As a further difficulty, the span containing the role class will be 
> transcluded into the tiddler... I do. Not know whether this changes 
> anything...
>
> Thanks for helping 
> Jan
>
> Mat > schrieb am So. 9. Apr. 2017 um 
> 02:27:
>
>> Hi Jan
>>
>> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing things up 
>> in a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite make sense of it. May I 
>> propose that you instead describe exactly what you wish the end result to 
>> look like?
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello! 
>>> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that 
>>> process have come to a formatting/CSS question. 
>>> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is 
>>> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling? 
>>>
>>> .role{text-transform: uppercase;} 
>>> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;} 
>>>
>>> It shall be used within this construction 
>>>
>>> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text.. 
>>>  Text Text 
>>>
>>> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role... 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for help 
>>> Jan 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread whatever 
Hey!
Try this:

in your stylesheet, add the following, but adapt both numbers appropriately 
(they should be identical, but you can experiment with different numbers, 
if you like):
.dialog {padding-left: 130px; text-indent: -130px;}
.text {margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}


Then in your tiddler, you can put the following:
{{dialog{{{role{Your Role Name}}}{{text{ dialog text
more dialog text
more dialog text}}

The "dialog" class determines the style for both the role and the text, in 
this case the indentation, and the "role" class only determines the style 
for the role name. The "text" class determines the style for the text. And 
to answer your question from the topic title, a node following a node is 
its sibling, regardless if it is within tags, and a node within a node is 
its child, but unless you actually plan to have a paragraph break after the 
role name, you need to change that rule to the "text" class.

hth,
w

PS: I'm not sure if TW5 also uses {{className{text}}} notation, like TWC, 
but the principle is the same.


On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 9:51:29 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mat,
> Perhaps you are right. 
> I want to create a class which makes the name of the person speaking in 
> capital letters in the left. And i would like the dialogue-text following 
> this name to appear indent. 
> I thought I could use the adjacent sibling selector to make it indent 
> without further formatting in the text.
>
> As a further difficulty, the span containing the role class will be 
> transcluded into the tiddler... I do. Not know whether this changes 
> anything...
>
> Thanks for helping 
> Jan
>
> Mat > schrieb am So. 9. Apr. 2017 um 
> 02:27:
>
>> Hi Jan
>>
>> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing things up 
>> in a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite make sense of it. May I 
>> propose that you instead describe exactly what you wish the end result to 
>> look like?
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello! 
>>> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that 
>>> process have come to a formatting/CSS question. 
>>> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is 
>>> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling? 
>>>
>>> .role{text-transform: uppercase;} 
>>> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;} 
>>>
>>> It shall be used within this construction 
>>>
>>> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text.. 
>>>  Text Text 
>>>
>>> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role... 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for help 
>>> Jan 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-09 Thread Jan Johannpeter 
Hi Mat,
Perhaps you are right.
I want to create a class which makes the name of the person speaking in
capital letters in the left. And i would like the dialogue-text following
this name to appear indent.
I thought I could use the adjacent sibling selector to make it indent
without further formatting in the text.

As a further difficulty, the span containing the role class will be
transcluded into the tiddler... I do. Not know whether this changes
anything...

Thanks for helping
Jan

Mat  schrieb am So. 9. Apr. 2017 um 02:27:

> Hi Jan
>
> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing things up
> in a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite make sense of it. May I
> propose that you instead describe exactly what you wish the end result to
> look like?
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello!
> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that
> process have come to a formatting/CSS question.
> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is
> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?
>
> .role{text-transform: uppercase;}
> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;}
>
> It shall be used within this construction
>
> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text..
>  Text Text
>
> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role...
>
>
> Thanks for help
> Jan
>
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[tw] Re: Is the Text following a span a child or a sibling?

2017-04-08 Thread Mat 
Hi Jan

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you're mixing things up in 
a beginners kind of way? At least I can't quite make sense of it. May I 
propose that you instead describe exactly what you wish the end result to 
look like?

<:-)

On Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 12:22:31 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello! 
> I want to realize an editor for screenwriting within TW and during that 
> process have come to a formatting/CSS question. 
> The dialogue-text after the role shall be indent. Now my question is 
> is the Text following a span a child or a sibling? 
>
> .role{text-transform: uppercase;} 
> .role > p{margin-left: 150px; font-style: italic;} 
>
> It shall be used within this construction 
>
> {{rolename}} Dialoguetext text.. 
>  Text Text 
>
> Where rolename is a transclude span with the class role... 
>
>
> Thanks for help 
> Jan 
>

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