[offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Henderson
I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with Cobol, C++,
Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, PCs.  I believe
Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of strengths and is
evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast amounts of time to
the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  

In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a difficult task.  I
appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for Tomcat to
flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in this area.  For
over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up Server.xml with my
context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following non-descriptive
error message.  I pity people that are in a production environment with
development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In general, Tomcat
deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, it deserves an
"F".

Just my $0.02


2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing start(), current
available=false
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
Resources
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources start failed:
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring non-privileged
default Loader
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default Manager
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
container startup
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context startup failed due
to previous errors
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception during cleanup
after start failed
LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] has not been
started
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.java:3643)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3621)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:497)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2189)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39
)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl
.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)




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RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Turner, John

Is this a request for help, or just a rant?  Please let us know.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages
> 
> 
> I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with 
> Cobol, C++,
> Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, 
> PCs.  I believe
> Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of 
> strengths and is
> evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast 
> amounts of time to
> the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  
> 
> In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a 
> difficult task.  I
> appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for 
> Tomcat to
> flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in 
> this area.  For
> over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up 
> Server.xml with my
> context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following 
> non-descriptive
> error message.  I pity people that are in a production 
> environment with
> development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In 
> general, Tomcat
> deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, 
> it deserves an
> "F".
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> 
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing 
> start(), current
> available=false
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
> Resources
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources 
> start failed:
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring 
> non-privileged
> default Loader
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring 
> default Manager
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
> container startup
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context 
> startup failed due
> to previous errors
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception 
> during cleanup
> after start failed
> LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] 
> has not been
> started
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.
> java:3643)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext
> .java:3621)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService
> .java:497)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.j
> ava:2189)
>   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
>   at 
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
>   at 
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
>   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccess
> orImpl.java:39
> )
>   at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMeth
> odAccessorImpl
> .java:25)
>   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
>   at 
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jeanfrancois Arcand


Jim Henderson wrote:


I have been in IT for approximately 25 years


Scary ;-)


and worked with Cobol, C++,
Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, PCs.  

No Lisp? That's the problem!


I believe
Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of strengths and is
evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast amounts of time to
the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  

In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a difficult task.  I
appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for Tomcat to
flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in this area.  For
over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up Server.xml with my
context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following non-descriptive
error message.  I pity people that are in a production environment with
development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In general, Tomcat
deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, it deserves an
"F".

You deverse an "F" also for the kind of information you just posted ;-) 
Please tell us more what you are trying to do. Which platform?, Which 
Tomcat version (I guess its 4.1.x...but I don't like guessing), What 
your app is trying to do and most importantly, add your web.xml file. Is 
the Tomcat example working? Have you try to increase the logging level?

Then we will revise your note and maybe help you and give a "C" ;-)

-- Jeanfrancois ---see---> (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html) :-)


Just my $0.02


2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing start(), current
available=false
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
Resources
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources start failed:
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring non-privileged
default Loader
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default Manager
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
container startup
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context startup failed due
to previous errors
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception during cleanup
after start failed
LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] has not been
started
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.java:3643)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3621)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:497)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2189)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
	at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39
)
	at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl
.java:25)
	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)



 



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RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Henderson
I take help!  :)  (I am just frustrated and the post was intended to be
positive criticism.)

My app works just fine (minus the mail function) IF I do not add my
 info to server.xml.  My context data is larger (includes Valve,
Logger, Resource, ResourceParms, and Environment items) but I have trimmed
it down to the following that is inserted in the 4.1.18 distribution after
the examples context and before .   And it is strange, if I run the
app then add the server.xml entry without clearing the work subdirectory and
without redeploying, the error does not occur.  This was a very confusing
issue, it seemed to work sometimes and sometimes not.  But if I add my
 tag to the server.xml, then deploy am WAR file, the error occurs.
It is the following trimmed  that caused the error.









Thanks!



-Original Message-
From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:08 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages



Is this a request for help, or just a rant?  Please let us know.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages
>
>
> I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with
> Cobol, C++,
> Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s,
> PCs.  I believe
> Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of
> strengths and is
> evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast
> amounts of time to
> the project.  I appreciate their efforts.
>
> In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a
> difficult task.  I
> appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for
> Tomcat to
> flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in
> this area.  For
> over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up
> Server.xml with my
> context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following
> non-descriptive
> error message.  I pity people that are in a production
> environment with
> development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In
> general, Tomcat
> deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting,
> it deserves an
> "F".
>
> Just my $0.02
>
>
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing
> start(), current
> available=false
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
> Resources
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources
> start failed:
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring
> non-privileged
> default Loader
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring
> default Manager
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
> container startup
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context
> startup failed due
> to previous errors
> 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception
> during cleanup
> after start failed
> LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags]
> has not been
> started
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.
> java:3643)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext
> .java:3621)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService
> .java:497)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.j
> ava:2189)
>   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
>   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>   at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccess
> orImpl.java:39
> )
>   at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMeth
> odAccessorImpl
> .java:25)
>   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)
>
>
>
>

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