Re: Topband: 160m Folded Counterpoise White Paper
On 2/24/2012 10:06 PM, W0UCE wrote: > A white paper FCP Fact or Fiction .pdf is now available for download on the > K2AV Antenna Page: VERY nice pdf, lots of useful ideas, very clearly presented! 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: 160m Folded Counterpoise White Paper
A white paper FCP Fact or Fiction .pdf is now available for download on the K2AV Antenna Page: http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html 73, Jack ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Last news for 3C6A
"lets just use our earsand see what we can work" I also agree with Herb,,, any opportunity would be a good one --- for sure they will work some one some where--at any given time none of us are "owed" anything dx is 73 john w8wej On 2/24/2012 11:14 PM, jeremy maris wrote: > Agreed. And speaking as someone in the UK with a nice South Beverage I'd be > pleased to work them. As would many others in Europe and Asia, no doubt. > There' a whole world outside of the USA! > > As to contests, I heard many stations in the ARRL DX CW that I wanted to work > (Belize, British Honduras etc) but they were of course working USA only and > far too busy to want Eu QSO. So I'll listen at other times. > > Let's just use our ears and see what we can work. > > Jeremy G3XDK/G4AQG > > > On 24 Feb 2012, at 19:58, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: > >> You guys are a bunch of whinersas an even an hour on 160 at 2300 >> would have been good for openers with a another shot after the contest. >> Now you have forced by public pressure a possible new country to remain >> off the band for a later date and wow...isn't that wonderful after a >> weekend of non-stop contesting many of us will be in excellent shape to >> spend another night after the contest ends to try and break the EU wall >> of callers! Would it not be better to try a least for an hour at our >> local sunset? Tropical static and poor conditions could spoil >> everything after March 5th and you will never know what might have been. >> >> Thank you so much!...The big guns rule on TB in more ways then just >> having just big signals and huge stations. they can keep a new one >> off the air because it may not be convenient to their schedule. I would >> rather have the big guns up in the phone bands working the contest and >> the those who know 160 would have avoided the 3C0E frequency or choose >> to work some CW. >> >> >> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ >> >> On 2/24/2012 3:35 PM, Josep Torres wrote: >>> OK, talked to Elmo later to let him know about the ARRL DX SSB Contest and >>> he agreed that operation from 3C0E on 160m will start after the contest, >>> say on march 5th. But let's see how things are.. >>> No 160 operation expected from 3C6A... >>> As TX antenna they have 18m vertical, and beverages for RX.. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Josep >>> EA6BF >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >>> >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.927 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4229 - Release Date: 02/24/12 > 07:34:00 > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Last news for 3C6A
Agreed. And speaking as someone in the UK with a nice South Beverage I'd be pleased to work them. As would many others in Europe and Asia, no doubt. There' a whole world outside of the USA! As to contests, I heard many stations in the ARRL DX CW that I wanted to work (Belize, British Honduras etc) but they were of course working USA only and far too busy to want Eu QSO. So I'll listen at other times. Let's just use our ears and see what we can work. Jeremy G3XDK/G4AQG On 24 Feb 2012, at 19:58, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: > You guys are a bunch of whinersas an even an hour on 160 at 2300 > would have been good for openers with a another shot after the contest. > Now you have forced by public pressure a possible new country to remain > off the band for a later date and wow...isn't that wonderful after a > weekend of non-stop contesting many of us will be in excellent shape to > spend another night after the contest ends to try and break the EU wall > of callers! Would it not be better to try a least for an hour at our > local sunset? Tropical static and poor conditions could spoil > everything after March 5th and you will never know what might have been. > > Thank you so much!...The big guns rule on TB in more ways then just > having just big signals and huge stations. they can keep a new one > off the air because it may not be convenient to their schedule. I would > rather have the big guns up in the phone bands working the contest and > the those who know 160 would have avoided the 3C0E frequency or choose > to work some CW. > > > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ > > On 2/24/2012 3:35 PM, Josep Torres wrote: >> OK, talked to Elmo later to let him know about the ARRL DX SSB Contest and >> he agreed that operation from 3C0E on 160m will start after the contest, say >> on march 5th. But let's see how things are.. >> No 160 operation expected from 3C6A... >> As TX antenna they have 18m vertical, and beverages for RX.. >> >> 73, >> >> Josep >> EA6BF >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >> > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: More African DX
Another operation to keep an ear out for is this one (as announced in the ARRL DX Bulletin): ST. HELENA, ZD7. Nigel, G3TXF will be QRV as ZD7XF from February 29 to March 13. Activity will be mainly on 160 and 80 meters using CW. This includes being an entry in the upcoming RSGB Commonwealth contest. QSL to home call. Tree N6TR ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: 3C6A
Much has been written about 3C6A and the way to handle it. Give it a break, please and use some time listening. As the sunrise curve moves to the west they would look for Easy Eu, west Eu, Na east coast, midwest and the westcoast. This time span is no more than a few hours as seen from 3C6, Givwe the guys a chance, please, they are experienced ops! If you fail the first morning you can alwasys try the upcoming opening, eh? (Then, as a good friend of mine once said: It always nice to have a few ones left for the ultimate goal). 73 SM7BIC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
"Try" 160 at 2300Z? What it will take is a daily dedication to the low bands (80 and 40 needed here as well) for as long as its dark in 3C0. 2300Z is still 90 minutes to sunset in CO and 3 hours on the west coast. Bearing in mind there's just two ops, that would mean a sharply decreased emphasis on daytime operation, converting it to sleep time. From what I've read and observed so far, it doesn't seem likely. Lots of folks who need 3C0 anywhere at all won't appreciate the suggestion. Bearing also in mind 3C0 hasn't been on low bands any time recently, the pile ups will be huge and unforgiving. It'll take real low band dedication to work thru them. It'll take even more dedication to work west US stations thru the EU and east coast curtains. There's two sides to the DX Code of Conduct pictured on the site. One of them is our side, the callers. The other is the DX side. Referring especially to sticking with a partial call until its correct in the log, no matter the jamming level. Often what we hear is the DX gives up and moves on to one of the intentional QRM jammer incessant callers. A tactic guaranteed to increase the incessant caller activity level. Well I don't know about the WF part but I'll surely be W'ing til they're in the log. Lets hope for the best, c'yall in the pileups. 73 Art ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: Last news for 3C6A
You guys are a bunch of whinersas an even an hour on 160 at 2300 would have been good for openers with a another shot after the contest. Now you have forced by public pressure a possible new country to remain off the band for a later date and wow...isn't that wonderful after a weekend of non-stop contesting many of us will be in excellent shape to spend another night after the contest ends to try and break the EU wall of callers! Would it not be better to try a least for an hour at our local sunset? Tropical static and poor conditions could spoil everything after March 5th and you will never know what might have been. Thank you so much!...The big guns rule on TB in more ways then just having just big signals and huge stations. they can keep a new one off the air because it may not be convenient to their schedule. I would rather have the big guns up in the phone bands working the contest and the those who know 160 would have avoided the 3C0E frequency or choose to work some CW. Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ On 2/24/2012 3:35 PM, Josep Torres wrote: > OK, talked to Elmo later to let him know about the ARRL DX SSB Contest and he > agreed that operation from 3C0E on 160m will start after the contest, say on > march 5th. But let's see how things are.. > No 160 operation expected from 3C6A... > As TX antenna they have 18m vertical, and beverages for RX.. > > 73, > > Josep > EA6BF > > > > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: I meant "His" sunrise window not ours
OOPs I misspoke. When referring to a sunrise window I meant his. Actually we may have an opening to NA anytime when there is a dark path between 3C0 and any point in NA. Bob W4DR ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: Last news for 3C6A
OK, talked to Elmo later to let him know about the ARRL DX SSB Contest and he agreed that operation from 3C0E on 160m will start after the contest, say on march 5th. But let's see how things are.. No 160 operation expected from 3C6A... As TX antenna they have 18m vertical, and beverages for RX.. 73, Josep EA6BF ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
On 02/24/2012 01:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Actually, what we need is a long time commitment to 160, with an > experienced operator, high power, and a decent RX antenna pointed WNW. Agreed! Which prompts me to ask, what is it about 3C / 3C0 that I don't know? Are there exclusive travel restrictions? I am wondering why there hasn't been a major DXpedition or a topband focused op from either entity (in my time on the band). Both seem sufficiently rare to warrant more attention. Just curious and trying to learn something. 73, Paul N1BUG ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
Yes...They will be ably assisted by the "excellent" operating standards of the American contesters! 73, Roger On 2/24/2012 2:03 PM, Steve HA0DU wrote: > Hi All, > > Please do not forget that one hour later the ARRL DX Phone contest > starts, which (given the "excellent" operating standards of the European > contesters) will most probably mean the end of the session. > > 73 Steve HA0DU > > > On 24/02/2012 12:47, Josep Torres wrote: >> Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd 2300z tx >> 1825. >> Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! >> >> 73, >> >> Josep >>EA6BF >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4 >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >> >> > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > -- Remember the Liberty (AGTR-5) http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/ http://www.gtr5.com/ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
Hi All, Please do not forget that one hour later the ARRL DX Phone contest starts, which (given the "excellent" operating standards of the European contesters) will most probably mean the end of the session. 73 Steve HA0DU On 24/02/2012 12:47, Josep Torres wrote: > Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd 2300z tx > 1825. > Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! > > 73, > > Josep > EA6BF > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
On 2/24/2012 5:31 AM, Bert Barry wrote: > What we in NA need is the period from 0500 to 0545 UTC for the "dawn > enhancement" effect. > Hope they don't get tired from listening to static for 2 or 3 hours, and > go to bed and miss the beautiful sunrise. Actually, what we need is a long time commitment to 160, with an experienced operator, high power, and a decent RX antenna pointed WNW. Remember that NA is a very big place -- openings to the west are rare and brief, and are often "spotlights" that jump over the east coast. The few AF I've worked have mostly been around 0200-0330. Stations on the east coast have it REAL easy -- as you move west, it gets increasingly difficult. 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
Perhaps if there enough big CW stations calling Annobon the SSBers will avoid that part of the band. (Incidentally, I believe you meant HIS sunrise, not OUR sunrise. This effect only occurs to the West of the receiving station - to the East is fullsunlight). Bert VE3QAA On 24/02/2012 9:36 AM, Bob Eshleman wrote: > This is an unfortunate pick of time for 160 as 1 hour after his > opening time (23:00 gmt) the ARRL DX contest begins and even if he > stays on for our sunrise window, the band will be filled with loud SSB > stations calling "CQ contest" I am afraid this will be a repeat of > all of the previous 3C0 dxpeditions as far as 160 is concerned. > Bob W4DR > - Original Message - From: "Bert Barry" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:31 AM > Subject: Re: Topband: 3C6A > > >> What we in NA need is the period from 0500 to 0545 UTC for the "dawn >> enhancement" effect. >> Hope they don't get tired from listening to static for 2 or 3 hours, and >> go to bed and miss the beautiful sunrise. >> >> Bert VE3QAA >> >> On 24/02/2012 6:47 AM, Josep Torres wrote: >>> Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd >>> 2300z tx 1825. >>> Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Josep >>> EA6BF >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4 >>> ___ >>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >> >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
This is an unfortunate pick of time for 160 as 1 hour after his opening time (23:00 gmt) the ARRL DX contest begins and even if he stays on for our sunrise window, the band will be filled with loud SSB stations calling "CQ contest" I am afraid this will be a repeat of all of the previous 3C0 dxpeditions as far as 160 is concerned. Bob W4DR - Original Message - From: "Bert Barry" To: Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:31 AM Subject: Re: Topband: 3C6A > What we in NA need is the period from 0500 to 0545 UTC for the "dawn > enhancement" effect. > Hope they don't get tired from listening to static for 2 or 3 hours, and > go to bed and miss the beautiful sunrise. > > Bert VE3QAA > > On 24/02/2012 6:47 AM, Josep Torres wrote: >> Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd 2300z >> tx 1825. >> Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! >> >> 73, >> >> Josep >> EA6BF >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4 >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: Bird Slugs
I have a Bird 2500P that I would like to trade for a Bird 500P. Anybody got one? Joe, W7JWM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A (propagation)
Perhaps not all of us. This brings up a mystery I have been wondering about for years. I seem to be experiencing something that most of NA doesn't. Admittedly the sample size is small, since activity from the central part of Africa is mostly limited to DXpeditions or the occasional operation by one of the resident hams. However, going back over the last 8 years (since my return to topband), I am finding a broad band across central Africa from east to west where the peak seems more apt to be half way between my sunset and their sunrise. Many times I have experienced this broad peak, then had the signal fade into noise and be completely unreadable at their sunrise. Often, I can judge by the pile and NA QSO rate that as I am losing the signal it is coming up in the southeast and central US, and builds toward a peak at African sunrise for those areas. I have seen the occasional exception with a strong sunrise peak but it does not seem to be the norm. What makes this even more strange is the fact I get very strong sunrise peaks from Europe, northern Africa, and southern Africa. Propagation to central Africa seems to be playing by a different set of rules to my location. I wonder why? 73, Paul N1BUG On 02/24/2012 08:31 AM, Bert Barry wrote: > What we in NA need is the period from 0500 to 0545 UTC for the "dawn > enhancement" effect. > Hope they don't get tired from listening to static for 2 or 3 hours, and > go to bed and miss the beautiful sunrise. > > Bert VE3QAA ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
What we in NA need is the period from 0500 to 0545 UTC for the "dawn enhancement" effect. Hope they don't get tired from listening to static for 2 or 3 hours, and go to bed and miss the beautiful sunrise. Bert VE3QAA On 24/02/2012 6:47 AM, Josep Torres wrote: > Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd 2300z tx > 1825. > Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! > > 73, > > Josep > EA6BF > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: 3C6A
Had a nessage from Elmo and he says they will try 160m on March 2nd 2300z tx 1825. Hope condx are good and many of us can work them..!!! 73, Josep EA6BF Sent from my iPhone 4 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
