Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation

2013-08-28 Thread Bill Tippett

Long delayed response to

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/topband/2013-August/041954.html

K2AV wrote:

By common
expectation LPL and LR should have a propagation advantage over NY4A.
LPL and LR both have excellent stacked 3 or 4 element 40m yagi's. But
note how as the fourth mode is engaged, both LR and LPL fall off
because they are not cleanly engaging the mode, most likely because
the increasing elevation angle is starting into a notch in the yagi
vertical pattern.  Also note that NY4A carries the best signal for
most of the 24 hours. This is an evaluation of the NY4A 40 EU quad vs.
known excellent installations that is hard to argue with.

From the ARRL results database, sorted by maximum 40m QSOs (after 
log-checking):


http://bit.ly/19YAF1f  don't worry Frank...it's OK  :-)

RankCall40m QSOs

1.  K3LR2000
2.  W3LPL   1911
3.  WE3C1862
4.  KM1W1818
5.  NY4A1809

K3LR could be expected to have a higher total because of better prop 
to JA but the other 4 should have had similar propagation to EU, 
which would dominate their results.  There's more to this story than 
RBN spots from a single location shows.


73,  Bill  W4ZV


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Topband: WD1A wire

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Molitor
Anyone know of a good source for WD1A field phone wire these days?

Best I've found so far runs abut 60 bux shipped to WA for a 0.5 km spool.

Thanks,

Larry - W7IUV
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Re: Topband: WD1A wire

2013-08-28 Thread Herb Schoenbohm





Larry try eBay that is where I bought my last 2500 feet for 28 bucks but 
be sure to not get it tangled as that is a mess or long runs.



Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ



On 8/28/2013 3:32 PM, Larry Molitor wrote:

Anyone know of a good source for WD1A field phone wire these days?

Best I've found so far runs abut 60 bux shipped to WA for a 0.5 km spool.

Thanks,

Larry - W7IUV
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Re: Topband: WD1A wire

2013-08-28 Thread Larry Molitor
Thanks Carl, even though it wasn't much help.

Need some new wire for some BOG experiments, mostly for 630 meters. Ran outa 
cheap insulated wire. Considering cat5 because it's cheaper than any single 
conductor wire you can buy. But WD1A  is not as appetizing to the varmits and 
in my old age, I really hate splicing wire in the snow.

Anybody even run bare wire on the ground? I tried that when I was in AZ and it 
didn't work but the soil at that location was very very good. Maybe it would 
work here over frozen sand and rock?

Larry - W7IUV




 From: ZR z...@jeremy.mv.com
To: Larry Molitor w7...@yahoo.com; topband@contesting.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: WD1A wire
 

The last reel I bought was 2.5km for $40 plus about $20 shipping from Ohio 
about 3-4 years ago on Fleabay. It was listed strangely but I forget how; I 
believe I searched for military wire or something similar. I see some 
speculators peddling it at .10/ft

Carl
KM1H


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Molitor w7...@yahoo.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:32 PM
Subject: Topband: WD1A wire


 Anyone know of a good source for WD1A field phone wire these days?

 Best I've found so far runs abut 60 bux shipped to WA for a 0.5 km spool.

 Thanks,

 Larry - W7IUV
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Re: Topband: data follow up to W4ZV and K2AV comments

2013-08-28 Thread Tim Duffy
For the record:

40 meter antennas at W3LPL:
Two full size 3 ele Yagi's at 190 feet over 100 feet - 48 foot booms.

40 meter antennas at K3LR
Three full size 4 ele OWA Yagi's at 260 feet over 190 feet over 118 feet.
48 foot booms. 7 take off angle combinations are available.

QSOs for 40 meters in this contest:

K3LR 1767 Europe and 144 Asia
W3LPL 1686 Europe and 122 Asia

73,
Tim K3LR

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Tippett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:17 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation

 Long delayed response to

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/topband/2013-August/041954.html

K2AV wrote:

By common
expectation LPL and LR should have a propagation advantage over NY4A.
LPL and LR both have excellent stacked 3 or 4 element 40m yagi's. But
note how as the fourth mode is engaged, both LR and LPL fall off
because they are not cleanly engaging the mode, most likely because
the increasing elevation angle is starting into a notch in the yagi
vertical pattern.  Also note that NY4A carries the best signal for
most of the 24 hours. This is an evaluation of the NY4A 40 EU quad vs.
known excellent installations that is hard to argue with.

 From the ARRL results database, sorted by maximum 40m QSOs (after 
log-checking):

http://bit.ly/19YAF1f  don't worry Frank...it's OK  :-)

RankCall40m QSOs

1.  K3LR2000
2.  W3LPL   1911
3.  WE3C1862
4.  KM1W1818
5.  NY4A1809

K3LR could be expected to have a higher total because of better prop 
to JA but the other 4 should have had similar propagation to EU, 
which would dominate their results.  There's more to this story than 
RBN spots from a single location shows.

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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