Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
I worked OK1RD in 2011 on 2 Meter EME. Don't k now if he is still active 73, PeteR N8PR Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . Who is it ?? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a uto,-12,848 -- Nick, UY0ZG _ From: w...@w5zn.org To: 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi J.C., I have not worked this station on 160 meters or on 2 meter EME (or on any band). 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: > I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME > > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf > > 73's JC > N4IS > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 75 meter 1/4 wave vertical on160
Doug, If you have the room, here is an alternative that I am using now at ZF9CW. I believe this would be better than a coil at the base. Make that vertical your 160m transmit antenna by adding two wires attached to the top and going out as far as you can so the ends are as high as you can get them. Make it symmetrical with the wires going East/West or North/South, etc. Those wires will be 60 feet plus or minus each. For 80m have a quarterwave wire with a good insulator spaced a few feet out coming off the vertical at 45-50 feet up. That wire can come out from the vertical by 10 feet or more and then back to the base. Use separate feedlines and same radial field. Match with a hairpin for each antenna. My 80m vertical looks a lot like a > sign but the top line is longer than the bottom one. I am just guessing mine comes from about 50 feet, comes down to about 20 feet up and 20 feet out and then back to the base. You could put a vacuum relay at the top to switch the wires out for 80, which I have done, but I like the flexibility of current scheme better. If you are going to make a coil and have modeling software, Hamwaves Inductance calculator is a good tool. Coils are nice but can be a pain to weatherproof. 73... Stan, ZF9CW On Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 12:04 PM doug dietz Gentlemen, > I have been lurking in the background for over a year there have been some > excellent learning possibilities. > Thank you all. now on to my question. > > I have a 1/4 wave vertical (about 66 feet) for 75-80 meters I would like > to try and make it resonate on 1.825. If I put the analyzer on it I don't > understand the reading.I know the swr is bad on 160 because the > kpa-1500 will not match it. If possible I would like to add a coil at the > bottom with a relay to switch in and out. Any ideas length of wire, > diameter, of coil, and size of wire, for 1500 watts I am not worried > about receive only transmit. > > Doug WD8Z > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
He filed LOTW back in 2009 with callsign of OK1RD John k9uwa > >>"There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 > > Clive GM3POI" _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
He filed LOTW back in 2009 with callsign of OK1RD John k9uwa > >>"There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 > > Clive GM3POI" _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas
This is a very well-established fact! See http://www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 5:56 AM Clive GM3POI wrote: > My take on this is that having had a low inverted vee at about 80ft and a > top loaded vertical over a very good ground system to compare against each > other. I have found the following that despite the vertical being short > 60ft > with the exception of stations within 200miles the vertical is always > better. However the vertical is about 87% efficient with a serious amount > of > long radials. > YMMV 73 Clive GM3POI > > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger > Kennedy > Sent: 17 November 2018 11:43 > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas > > > I think most people know I use a horizontal 160m Dipole as my main antenna > . > . . > > But my 6ft Receiving Loop is vertically polarised . . . so it's quite > interesting to see the difference in signals between the two. (I have a > pre-amp that makes local signals the same strength on the Loop) > > Most EU signals are stronger on the Dipole . . . and listening to those > wide > radar type signals (from Russia?) there is a huge difference in tone when > switching (due to phase differences) > > However . . . although SOME DX signals are stronger on the Loop, it's > interesting that most of the time, they're exactly the same strength. > > (but my S/N is usually 6 -10dB better on the Loop . . even more if there's > any local switch-mode electrical interference) > > Regarding 160m Conditions, not bad on Thursday night . . . but poor last > night - apart from a Sunset Peak sweeping across NA, after that signals > dropped right off. (my signals typically dropping 25dB on RBN sites). > > Roger G3YRO > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas
On 11/17/2018 3:42 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote: I think most people know I use a horizontal 160m Dipole as my main antenna . But my 6ft Receiving Loop is vertically polarised . . . so it's quite Roger G3YRO Assuming you mean the loop is a 6 ft diameter circle, you would typically have 0.1% efficiency (-30 dBi gain), if it is TUNED, as opposed to being broadband. It is inconceivable that the loop would have more output than your low dipole. Does your loop include a preamp? In that case, then of course you could have more signal after the preamp than the dipole. But the comparison would be meaningless because it would depend on the gain of the preamp, which is an arbitrary number. What you can do, however, is to use the receiving loop, such as it is, as a reference antenna, and then reconfigure your dipole as a top loaded vertical. I think you will then notice that the vertical is much better vs the loop than the dipole was. I have directly compared a 160 meter inverted vee with the apex at 60 feet, with a 60 foot high vertical having top loading wires that sloped down (like the inverted vee wires). The vertical was easily 10 dB better. YMMV. 73 Rick N6RK _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 75 meter 1/4 wave vertical on160
Hi Doug, I've got exactly the same setup. I use two coils, a 2uH shunt coil, one side of which is grounded, and a 22uH loading coil that connects to the top of the shunt coil at the bottom of the antenna. You drive the antenna where the two coils intersect. Realistically, you'll probably have to tweak the coil settings bit to minimize the SWR and to bring the resonance where you want it. My vertical resonates at 3.530 MHz and 1.815MHz, with a 1.1 VSWR on 160 and a 1.45 on 80. I use a toroid for the loading coil to make it compact. It consists of two 2.25" cores T42 material wrapped with fiberglass tape and wound with RG-316U , with the shield and braid soldered together. It all fits in a weatherproof NEMA enclosure. I'll send a photo separately. 73, Jim w8zr Sent from my iPhone. > On Nov 17, 2018, at 10:04 AM, doug dietz wrote: > > Gentlemen, > I have been lurking in the background for over a year there have been some > excellent learning possibilities. > Thank you all. now on to my question. > > I have a 1/4 wave vertical (about 66 feet) for 75-80 meters I would like > to try and make it resonate on 1.825. If I put the analyzer on it I don't > understand the reading.I know the swr is bad on 160 because the > kpa-1500 will not match it. If possible I would like to add a coil at the > bottom with a relay to switch in and out. Any ideas length of wire, > diameter, of coil, and size of wire, for 1500 watts I am not worried > about receive only transmit. > > Doug WD8Z > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Folks, Hopefully the ARRL will look into this and act in a way we all will be satisfied but they can't act until they have done their own due diligence. Informing DXCC about it is the best we can hope to do unless they do not act on it. I expect they will act on it when they find the truth for themselves. To me, It's the same story as always; Whether someone cheats or not, my score is still mine and I'll never see 339 on 160. On all band, possibly, as I'm getting close. His score if done by cheating is worthless to anyone but him and if he holds it high, he is deluding himself and is just another wretch to be pitied for a mental imbalance. I suspect if this was done by cheating, this is just a small window into the rest of his life. 73, Gary KA1J _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160m Condx
Regarding 10 kHz harmonics from BCB stations... last year I was using my HQ-140 receiver for casual SW and ham monitoring at my computer desk. With a full size 160 meter the Hammarlund overloaded to the point where I was hearing an IMD beatnote at every 10 kHz spot on the band. Fortunately, I have yet to hear any harmonics from the local stations. I resorted to using a MFJ preselector to clean it up. Now I am using my JRC-515 and that problem is gone, but I miss the warm tubes. Pete k1zjh _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: 75 meter 1/4 wave vertical on160
Gentlemen, I have been lurking in the background for over a year there have been some excellent learning possibilities. Thank you all. now on to my question. I have a 1/4 wave vertical (about 66 feet) for 75-80 meters I would like to try and make it resonate on 1.825. If I put the analyzer on it I don't understand the reading.I know the swr is bad on 160 because the kpa-1500 will not match it. If possible I would like to add a coil at the bottom with a relay to switch in and out. Any ideas length of wire, diameter, of coil, and size of wire, for 1500 watts I am not worried about receive only transmit. Doug WD8Z _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
The last LOTW log update for both OK7XX and OK1RD was April 2009.Bob W4Dr -Original Message- From: uy0zg Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:09 AM To: Wes Stewart Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Ok my friend. But in this case all 339 were presented ! Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Wes Stewart писал 2018-11-17 17:18: I can carry one card to an approved 160 field checker and get it approved. He has no idea what my total are. Wes N7WS On 11/17/2018 7:32 AM, uy0zg wrote: Joe ! To the checker was declared all 339. No doubt ! Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 16:22: The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the DXCC records at ARRL. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Ok my friend. But in this case all 339 were presented ! Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Wes Stewart писал 2018-11-17 17:18: I can carry one card to an approved 160 field checker and get it approved. He has no idea what my total are. Wes N7WS On 11/17/2018 7:32 AM, uy0zg wrote: Joe ! To the checker was declared all 339. No doubt ! Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 16:22: The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the DXCC records at ARRL. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!
Time to take action on this one please Thanks to all who find the time to do so. 73 JEFF From: k...@aol.com To: n...@n4is.com Sent: 11/17/2018 3:56:25 PM Coordinated Universal Time Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! JC and other 160m ops PLEASE DO write to the ARRL DXCCDESK to complain about this OK1YQ matter - this guy has to be stopped. If we do not go after this guy - he will just do more of the same and continue to get away with it. AGAIN THE email address is dxccad...@arrl.org Tks to all who take the time to complain about this fellow - we should not just "grouse about it" here on the reflector ...Rather - it is time to voice our strong, unequivocal feelings to HQ and the DXCC Desk - so this guy can be thrown out of the DXCC program - once and for all. 73 and thanks guys! JEFF K1ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:55:11 PM Coordinated Universal Time, n...@n4is.com writes: Hi Jeff We have a similar problem with several "PY" faking QSL, QSO and even LOTW confirmation by the DX operator. We've been reporting (we.. N4IS, PY2XB , PY2RO and PY5EG), documenting on paper, talking and meeting with ARRL officials including the DXCC desk for several years, and ARRL just don’t care! This is a sad growing problem. Regards JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of k1zm--- via Topband Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:48 AM To: lennart.michaels...@telia.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! FYI There is a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS for the ARRL DXCC DESK - it is dxccad...@arrl.org Pls send your comments to this email address for investigation and possible action! Thanks! 73 JEFF Vy2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:45:27 AM Coordinated Universal Time, lennart.michaels...@telia.com writes: Good idea Jeff! Thanks Peter for digging in this mudd! 73 Len/BIC -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Topband För k1zm--- via Topband Skickat: den 17 november 2018 11:43 Till: topband@contesting.com Ämne: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! From: k...@aol.com To: sm2...@telia.com Cc: d...@arrl.org Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! Hmmm again Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back. OK1RD (now masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!) Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC program going forward. This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk? Sure wish NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police this kind of activity! What utter nonsense! 73 JEFF VY2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, sm2...@telia.com writes: If OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0 73 Peter SM2CEW At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote: >OK1YQ is actually OK1RD > >-Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM >To: topband >Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > >JC, > > >I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a >single QSO with OK1YQ > > >73 >Frank >W3LPL > > >On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >>73's JC >>N4IS >> >>-Original Message- From: Topband >> On Behalf Of uy0zg >>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >>To: Topband@contesting.com >>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >>Who is it ?? >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1; >>zoom=a >>uto,-12,848 >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector > >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector _ Searchable Archives: >http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
but he must have an idea if it´s a "possible" contact! Some months ago, my manager (my Mom) did an error with the time filling a JA QSL on topband. This JA asked me for a new QSL with the right time, because the JA checker rejected this QSL card. That´s great!, hopefully all checkers do the same, but not sure 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El sáb., 17 nov. 2018 a las 12:19, Wes Stewart () escribió: > I can carry one card to an approved 160 field checker and get it > approved. He > has no idea what my total are. > > Wes N7WS > > On 11/17/2018 7:32 AM, uy0zg wrote: > > > > Joe ! > > > > To the checker was declared all 339. No doubt ! > > > > Nick, UY0ZG > > > > > > Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 16:22: > >> The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the > >> DXCC records at ARRL. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >>... Joe, W4TV > >> > >> > >> On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? > >>> > >>> Nick, UY0ZG > >>> > >>> > >>> Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: > >>>> On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> > >>>>> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? > >>>> > >>>> The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC > >>>> records (not LotW). > >>>> > >>>> OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with > >>>> fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or > >>>> overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> > >>>>... Joe, W4TV > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 > >>>>> Nick, UY0ZG > >> > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > -- 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
I can carry one card to an approved 160 field checker and get it approved. He has no idea what my total are. Wes N7WS On 11/17/2018 7:32 AM, uy0zg wrote: Joe ! To the checker was declared all 339. No doubt ! Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 16:22: The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the DXCC records at ARRL. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 191, Issue 16
t; > From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM > > To: Topband@contesting.com > > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > > > > > > > ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . > > > > Who is it ?? > > > > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a > > uto,-12,848 > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector -- Message: 14 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 08:15:56 + (UTC) From: "k...@aol.com" To: w...@mindspring.com, donov...@starpower.net, topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Message-ID: <2094677551.2349335.1542442556...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 hm Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ? That's kind of wacky.isn't it?? If it is legit - then congrats! 73 JEFF? ?K1ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, w...@mindspring.com writes: OK1YQ is actually OK1RD -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters JC, I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO with OK1YQ 73 Frank W3LPL On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: > I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME > > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf > > 73's JC > N4IS > > -Original Message- > From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM > To: Topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > > > ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . > > Who is it ?? > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a > uto,-12,848 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector -- Message: 15 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 09:32:44 +0100 From: Jean-Paul Albert To: donov...@starpower.net Cc: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Message-ID: <5077c60a-cb50-4acb-bb10-714253b68...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Anywhere, nothing about this station. Wrong call ? Jean-Paul F6FYA/TM4Q Envoy? de mon iPad > Le 17 nov. 2018 ? 01:06, donov...@starpower.net a ?crit : > > > JC, > > > I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO > with OK1YQ > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > >> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >> 73's JC >> N4IS >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >> To: Topband@contesting.com >> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >> Who is it ?? >> >> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a >> uto,-12,848 > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector -- Message: 16 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:46:31 +0200 From: uy0zg To: k...@aol.com Cc: w...@mindspring.com, donov...@starpower.net, topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Message-ID: <3d2b230602b7470693a1c328e570e...@mksat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG k1zm--- via Topband ? 2018-11-17 10:15: > hm
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>"There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 Clive GM3POI" Thanks Clive. I was under the mistaken impression that ARRL had closed the previous loopholes in their paper card process but that is clearly not the case. This (paper cheating on 160 cards) has been going on since at least the late 1980s, so I thought the process would have been corrected by now. Something as simple as "IF 160 total is in the Top X, crosscheck with someone knowledgeable about 160" (even a past or current ARRL President would do...LOL). I don't know what the qualifications are for "160 certified" log checkers but this may need to be reviewed. I was also not intending to cast any aspersions about the integrity of LOTW, but as we've seen in the news the past few years, ANYTHING connected to the Internet is subject to hacks. I'm sure ARRL will be investigating everything in their validation process. They are our last and best hope for maintaining the integrity of DXCC (notwithstanding remote country cheating, which is another topic). 73, Bill W4ZV P.S I know of at least 6 folks who have been disqualified for 160 cheating, so yes, ARRL does care about this. _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Thanks JC. LoTW does in fact require a QSO check from the other station for the confirmation to occur. Unless the other station uploads QSO details a confirmation does not occur. I’m not suggesting there hasn’t been bogus activity but I can tell you if there is proof a flaw or breach has occurred with the LoTW system ARRL will address it. 73 Joel W5ZN Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2018, at 7:28 AM, wrote: > > Hi Joel > > I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card > checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or > QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent > confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. > > 73's > JC > N4IS > > -Original Message- > From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM > To: topband > Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. > If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his > website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals > confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. > > Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed > and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC > record! > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI >> >> >> Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in >> retaliation >> >> for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He >> >> probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. >> I'm >> >> sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious >> issues >> >> about the security of their system. >> >> >> 73, Bill W4ZV >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
He could upload under a previous call Sent from my iPad > On Nov 17, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Clive GM3POI wrote: > > There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 > Clive GM3POI > > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of > n...@n4is.com > Sent: 17 November 2018 13:29 > To: w...@w5zn.org; 'topband' > Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > Hi Joel > > I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card > checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or > QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent > confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. > > 73's > JC > N4IS > > -Original Message- > From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM > To: topband > Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. > If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his > website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals > confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. > > Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed > and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC > record! > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI >> >> >> Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in >> retaliation >> >> for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He >> >> probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. >> I'm >> >> sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious >> issues >> >> about the security of their system. >> >> >> 73, Bill W4ZV >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Joe ! To the checker was declared all 339. No doubt ! Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 16:22: The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the DXCC records at ARRL. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Apparently, all he wants to do is hang the award on his shack wall, either to impress visitors or himself?? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 7:47 AM Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > ... OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with > fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or > overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). > > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
The checker does not know the total. That number is only in the DXCC records at ARRL. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 9:09 AM, uy0zg wrote: How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
How can they (checker ) not pay attention to this result ( 339 ! ) ? Nick, UY0ZG Joe Subich, W4TV писал 2018-11-17 15:47: On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Thanks JC. LoTW does in fact require a QSO check from the other station for the confirmation to occur. Unless the other station uploads QSO details a confirmation does not occur. I'm not suggesting there hasn't been bogus activity but I can tell you if there is proof a flaw or breach has occurred with the LoTW system ARRL will address it. 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 06:28, n...@n4is.com wrote: Hi Joel I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC record! 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in retaliation for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. I'm sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious issues about the security of their system. 73, Bill W4ZV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Yes " Here you can query Logbook to find out the last time log data was uploaded for a particular call sign. Last upload for OK1YQ: No log data found " Nick, UY0ZG Clive GM3POI писал 2018-11-17 15:37: There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 Clive GM3POI -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of n...@n4is.com Sent: 17 November 2018 13:29 To: w...@w5zn.org; 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Hi Joel I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC record! 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in retaliation for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. I'm sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious issues about the security of their system. 73, Bill W4ZV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote:> > Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? The DXCC standings list is generated automatically from the DXCC records (not LotW). OK1YQ (OK1RD) has been "cheating" DXCC for decades - primarily with fake *cards* presumably approved by a friendly field checker (or overworked ARRL staff person at a hamfest). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-11-17 3:46 AM, uy0zg wrote: Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
There have been no uploads for OK1YQ therefore it all has to be cards. 73 Clive GM3POI -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of n...@n4is.com Sent: 17 November 2018 13:29 To: w...@w5zn.org; 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Hi Joel I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC record! 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: >>> Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive >>> GM3POI > > > Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in > retaliation > > for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He > > probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. > I'm > > sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious > issues > > about the security of their system. > > > 73, Bill W4ZV > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Hi Joel I have the same impression as Bill mentioned. 160m paper QSL requires a card checker, however LOTW confirmation does not have the same process, no QSO or QSL check at all. We've seen 160m " QSO's" on Club Log and subsequent confirmation on LOTW on plain day light. 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:12 AM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC record! 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: >>> Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive >>> GM3POI > > > Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in > retaliation > > for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He > > probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. > I'm > > sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious > issues > > about the security of their system. > > > 73, Bill W4ZV > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Folks - I'm not exactly understanding the LoTW comments on this thread. If it is referring to the LoTW screen shot totals listed by OK1RD on his website then that is the combined totals in his DXCC record, not the totals confirmed solely via LoTW so a "hack" has not necessarily occurred. Regardless, there is convincing evidence some bogus QSL cards were reviewed and accepted by a DXCC card checker somewhere and then entered into his DXCC record! 73 Joel W5ZN On 2018-11-17 05:29, Bill Tippett wrote: Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in retaliation for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. I'm sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious issues about the security of their system. 73, Bill W4ZV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Bill, all indications are that he got his fake OK1RD 2008 DXCC totals using paper cards, not LOTW. I would expect he got his fake 2018 totals in a similar way. Example fake card, as deconstructed by G3TXF: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html One thing is for sure, he's tenacious. He was still trying to invent corroborating evidence for the fake 2005 C21XF QSL as late as 2017. The guy does not give up. Tim N3QE Tim N3QE On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 7:30 AM Bill Tippett wrote: > >>Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI > > > Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in retaliation > > for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He > > probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. I'm > > sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious issues > > about the security of their system. > > > 73, Bill W4ZV > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!
Hi Jeff We have a similar problem with several "PY" faking QSL, QSO and even LOTW confirmation by the DX operator. We've been reporting (we.. N4IS, PY2XB , PY2RO and PY5EG), documenting on paper, talking and meeting with ARRL officials including the DXCC desk for several years, and ARRL just don’t care! This is a sad growing problem. Regards JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of k1zm--- via Topband Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:48 AM To: lennart.michaels...@telia.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! FYI There is a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS for the ARRL DXCC DESK - it is dxccad...@arrl.org Pls send your comments to this email address for investigation and possible action! Thanks! 73 JEFF Vy2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:45:27 AM Coordinated Universal Time, lennart.michaels...@telia.com writes: Good idea Jeff! Thanks Peter for digging in this mudd! 73 Len/BIC -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Topband För k1zm--- via Topband Skickat: den 17 november 2018 11:43 Till: topband@contesting.com Ämne: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! From: k...@aol.com To: sm2...@telia.com Cc: d...@arrl.org Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! Hmmm again Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back. OK1RD (now masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!) Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC program going forward. This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk? Sure wish NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police this kind of activity! What utter nonsense! 73 JEFF VY2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, sm2...@telia.com writes: If OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0 73 Peter SM2CEW At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote: >OK1YQ is actually OK1RD > >-Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM >To: topband >Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > >JC, > > >I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a >single QSO with OK1YQ > > >73 >Frank >W3LPL > > >On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >>73's JC >>N4IS >> >>-Original Message- From: Topband >> On Behalf Of uy0zg >>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >>To: Topband@contesting.com >>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >>Who is it ?? >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1; >>zoom=a >>uto,-12,848 >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector > >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector _ Searchable Archives: >http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas in the same space (was Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe)
Hi Steve. You are 100 % right, the V works like a top hat for a vertical TX antenna. I it simple to detune any vertical TX antenna. Vertical TX antenna is the only way to work DX on topband! You may ask about the inverted V or low dipole, they are not 100% horizontal, actually they are 50% horizontal on the broadside and 50% vertical along the wire. Ground reflects horizontal signals -1, it means 180 degree out of phase, and the reflected signal cancels the arriving signal, The Arriving signal is maximum only near 1 1/2 wave high above ground 750ft!!!. The vertical reflected signal has +1 and add to the arriving signal producing gain, ground gain. Detuning a TX antenna is like a LC circuit, you need high impedance between the antenna and the ground. The UNIPOLE or cage antenna works very well to detune grounded towers up to 30 db, and it is easy to feed with 200 ohms, becoming a very large broadband antenna. Isolated towers or inverted V is the same, they need high isolation from ground. I sed the same configuration for over 20 years, the open line works very well 80 - 10m. Regards JC M4IS _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
>>Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI Guys this was probably done by OK1RD to embarrass ARRL/DXCC, in retaliation for ARRL (correctly) removing his bogus listing over 10 years ago. He probably found a way to hack LOTW and no human monitored the result. I'm sure they will correct the listing but it does raise some serious issues about the security of their system. 73, Bill W4ZV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas
My take on this is that having had a low inverted vee at about 80ft and a top loaded vertical over a very good ground system to compare against each other. I have found the following that despite the vertical being short 60ft with the exception of stations within 200miles the vertical is always better. However the vertical is about 87% efficient with a serious amount of long radials. YMMV 73 Clive GM3POI -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kennedy Sent: 17 November 2018 11:43 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas I think most people know I use a horizontal 160m Dipole as my main antenna . . . But my 6ft Receiving Loop is vertically polarised . . . so it's quite interesting to see the difference in signals between the two. (I have a pre-amp that makes local signals the same strength on the Loop) Most EU signals are stronger on the Dipole . . . and listening to those wide radar type signals (from Russia?) there is a huge difference in tone when switching (due to phase differences) However . . . although SOME DX signals are stronger on the Loop, it's interesting that most of the time, they're exactly the same strength. (but my S/N is usually 6 -10dB better on the Loop . . even more if there's any local switch-mode electrical interference) Regarding 160m Conditions, not bad on Thursday night . . . but poor last night - apart from a Sunset Peak sweeping across NA, after that signals dropped right off. (my signals typically dropping 25dB on RBN sites). Roger G3YRO _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarized antennas
I think most people know I use a horizontal 160m Dipole as my main antenna . . . But my 6ft Receiving Loop is vertically polarised . . . so it's quite interesting to see the difference in signals between the two. (I have a pre-amp that makes local signals the same strength on the Loop) Most EU signals are stronger on the Dipole . . . and listening to those wide radar type signals (from Russia?) there is a huge difference in tone when switching (due to phase differences) However . . . although SOME DX signals are stronger on the Loop, it's interesting that most of the time, they're exactly the same strength. (but my S/N is usually 6 -10dB better on the Loop . . even more if there's any local switch-mode electrical interference) Regarding 160m Conditions, not bad on Thursday night . . . but poor last night - apart from a Sunset Peak sweeping across NA, after that signals dropped right off. (my signals typically dropping 25dB on RBN sites). Roger G3YRO _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!
FYI There is a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS for the ARRL DXCC DESK - it is dxccad...@arrl.org Pls send your comments to this email address for investigation and possible action! Thanks! 73 JEFF Vy2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:45:27 AM Coordinated Universal Time, lennart.michaels...@telia.com writes: Good idea Jeff! Thanks Peter for digging in this mudd! 73 Len/BIC -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Topband För k1zm--- via Topband Skickat: den 17 november 2018 11:43 Till: topband@contesting.com Ämne: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! From: k...@aol.com To: sm2...@telia.com Cc: d...@arrl.org Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! Hmmm again Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back. OK1RD (now masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!) Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC program going forward. This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk? Sure wish NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police this kind of activity! What utter nonsense! 73 JEFF VY2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, sm2...@telia.com writes: If OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0 73 Peter SM2CEW At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote: >OK1YQ is actually OK1RD > >-Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM >To: topband >Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > >JC, > > >I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a >single QSO with OK1YQ > > >73 >Frank >W3LPL > > >On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >>73's JC >>N4IS >> >>-Original Message- From: Topband >> On Behalf Of uy0zg >>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >>To: Topband@contesting.com >>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >>Who is it ?? >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1; >>zoom=a >>uto,-12,848 >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector > >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >Reflector _ Searchable Archives: >http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!
From: k...@aol.com To: sm2...@telia.com Cc: d...@arrl.org Sent: 11/17/2018 10:33:41 AM Coordinated Universal Time Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!! Hmmm again Okay - now I remember this guy and his shenanigans from way back. OK1RD (now masquerading as OK1YQ - which is a callsign that does not appear on qrz.com!) Guys - I would recommend that any of us that are really interested send an email to the ARRL DXCC desk and ask that this 160m DXCC OK1YQ listing be taken down - and that this fellow be prohibited from participating in the DXCC program going forward. This is ridiculous and I agree - who is now running the DXCC desk? Sure wish NN1N and some of the older, wiser DXCC managers were still around to police this kind of activity! What utter nonsense! 73 JEFF VY2ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 10:07:05 AM Coordinated Universal Time, sm2...@telia.com writes: If OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0 73 Peter SM2CEW At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote: >OK1YQ is actually OK1RD > >-Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM >To: topband >Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > >JC, > > >I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a >single QSO with OK1YQ > > >73 >Frank >W3LPL > > >On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >>I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >>ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >>73's JC >>N4IS >> >>-Original Message- From: Topband >> On Behalf Of uy0zg >>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >>To: Topband@contesting.com >>Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >>ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >>Who is it ?? >> >>http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a >>uto,-12,848 >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
If OK1YQ is OK1RD as you say Bob, then pse read: http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=110968.0 73 Peter SM2CEW At 00:32 2018-11-17, Bob W4DR wrote: OK1YQ is actually OK1RD -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters JC, I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO with OK1YQ 73 Frank W3LPL On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM To: Topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . Who is it ?? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a uto,-12,848 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Doesn't say much for the DXCC checking process either. 73 Clive GM3POI -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of k1zm--- via Topband Sent: 17 November 2018 08:16 To: w...@mindspring.com; donov...@starpower.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters hm Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ? That's kind of wacky.isn't it? If it is legit - then congrats! 73 JEFF K1ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, w...@mindspring.com writes: OK1YQ is actually OK1RD -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters JC, I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO with OK1YQ 73 Frank W3LPL On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: > I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME > > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf > > 73's JC > N4IS > > -Original Message- > From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM > To: Topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > > > ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . > > Who is it ?? > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a > uto,-12,848 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Vertical and horizontal polarised antennas in the same space (was Propagation improves from VK6 into Europe)
G’day One way to get around the problem Frank W3LPL outlines below is to have one general/TX 160m antenna that you switch between vertical and horizontal polarisation. If you can get up an inverted-V or flat-top dipole at 60 to 120 feet and feed it with open wire that runs away from the antenna feedpoint vertically, the feeders can be switched at ground level (using a double pole vacuum relay or similar) so they are shorted and fed against a counterpoise/ground system, with a separate coax feeder/matching unit. For many years an east coast VK friend used this system, where he had a ‘shallow’ inverted vee 160m doublet about 90 feet high and took the open wire feed to ground. The inverted vee made a great capacity hat to the shorted open wire feeder/vertical radiator and I think he used to tune this against his ground system using an L-network or a series capacitor I also recall KK4TR – and several others – successfully using similar antennas. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ --- Corollary: You can't have too many antennas except when they interfere with each other which they often do on Topband where a wavelength is approximately 500 feet... Even on 20 meters, the pattern of a Yagi is noticeably degraded when it points through another 20 meter Yagi or tribander 500 feet distant or more. Fortunately most Topband receiving antennas don't interfere with each other -- except at extremely close spacing -- because their mutual impedance is negligible. But transmitting antennas and other antenna-like radiators such as power lines -- even 1000 feet away or more -- can significantly degrade the directivity of Topband receiving antennas. 73 Frank W3LPL --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Who makes this list - amateur radio, topbander or robot ...? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181117-A4.pdf#page=1=a%20%20uto,-12,848 Nick, UY0ZG k1zm--- via Topband писал 2018-11-17 10:15: hm Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ? That's kind of wacky.isn't it? If it is legit - then congrats! 73 JEFF K1ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, w...@mindspring.com writes: OK1YQ is actually OK1RD -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters JC, I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO with OK1YQ 73 Frank W3LPL On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM To: Topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . Who is it ?? http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a uto,-12,848 -- Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
Anywhere, nothing about this station. Wrong call ? Jean-Paul F6FYA/TM4Q Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 17 nov. 2018 à 01:06, donov...@starpower.net a écrit : > > > JC, > > > I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO > with OK1YQ > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > >> On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: >> I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME >> >> ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ >> >> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf >> >> 73's JC >> N4IS >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM >> To: Topband@contesting.com >> Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters >> >> >> >> ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . >> >> Who is it ?? >> >> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a >> uto,-12,848 > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters
hm Why would anyone with a LEGITIMATE 339 DXCC entities made on 160m made as licensed station OK1RD submit a DXCC total as CALLSIGN OK1YQ? That's kind of wacky.isn't it? If it is legit - then congrats! 73 JEFF K1ZM In a message dated 11/17/2018 12:33:17 AM Coordinated Universal Time, w...@mindspring.com writes: OK1YQ is actually OK1RD -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:06 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters JC, I have well over a million QSOs in my computer log but not even a single QSO with OK1YQ 73 Frank W3LPL On 2018-11-16 13:32, n...@n4is.com wrote: > I never heard him on any band but he must be very active on EME > > ARRL DXCC - 2 Meters -151 OK1YQ > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-2M-20181116-USLetter.pdf > > 73's JC > N4IS > > -Original Message- > From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:41 PM > To: Topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters > > > > ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters -339 OK1YQ . > > Who is it ?? > > http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20181116-A4.pdf#page=1=a > uto,-12,848 _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
