Re: Topband: Deterring Critters
You can get coax with a PE outer jacket, although I think they usually use MDPE instead of HDPE for coax. All you need to do is order the direct-bury type, which should almost always have a PE jacket. Getting the flooded kind will also help if you do get any tooth-holes in your cable. BTW, it's surprisingly reliable to test for a PE jacket using the fingernail scratch test. After you've done it enough times you can identify a PE jacket by the feel when you scratch it. I know it sounds goofy, but it's almost 100% reliable after you get the feel for it. PE has a unique feel to it when scratched with an edge (like a fingernail :-). Try it and you'll know what I mean. This is handy if you have mystery wire and want to test it. -Bill If we could purchase Coax cable and other smaller wires with the HDPE covering, life could be easier. (Also less costly) The 1000 foot roll of telephone cable is worth considering, for now. 73 Bruce-K1FZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Deterring Critters
On 03/13/2012 07:01 PM, Bill Wichers wrote: You can get coax with a PE outer jacket, although I think they usually use MDPE instead of HDPE for coax. All you need to do is order the direct-bury type, which should almost always have a PE jacket. Getting the flooded kind will also help if you do get any tooth-holes in your cable. Yes, and it seems to deter them. I was using regular PVC RG-59 cable for Beverage feeds for a while. It was constantly getting munched by critters. Since switching to RG-6 with a PE jacket three years ago (it also happens to be flooded) I have yet to find so much as a single tooth mark. It doesn't hold up to a chain saw very well though, and neither does LDF5-50A or 0.84 CATV cable! ;-) Paul ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Deterring Critters
Before I went with the CATV hardline Id lost many lengths of RG-6 and RG-11 flooded to bites all the way thru into the foam. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net To: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Deterring Critters You can get coax with a PE outer jacket, although I think they usually use MDPE instead of HDPE for coax. All you need to do is order the direct-bury type, which should almost always have a PE jacket. Getting the flooded kind will also help if you do get any tooth-holes in your cable. BTW, it's surprisingly reliable to test for a PE jacket using the fingernail scratch test. After you've done it enough times you can identify a PE jacket by the feel when you scratch it. I know it sounds goofy, but it's almost 100% reliable after you get the feel for it. PE has a unique feel to it when scratched with an edge (like a fingernail :-). Try it and you'll know what I mean. This is handy if you have mystery wire and want to test it. -Bill If we could purchase Coax cable and other smaller wires with the HDPE covering, life could be easier. (Also less costly) The 1000 foot roll of telephone cable is worth considering, for now. 73 Bruce-K1FZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4868 - Release Date: 03/13/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough?
Gary, the coyotes you and I grew up with were the stadium cheerleaders between Valley Stream Central and North. Boy, they were worse than the guys! Carl - Original Message - From: Garry Shapiro ga...@ni6t.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough? Westerners naive about coyotes? That is an interesting concept. DC and NYC are within the natural range of coyotes, but I have serious doubts about England. Coyote urine may work, but it did not keep my feedlines from being chewed by (eastern) Grey Squirrels that have displaced the native brown units. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 1:01 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Man, you Westerners are naive! We even have coyotes in downtown Washington and New York City. Ratty looking, but out there hunting. Anyhow, the general idea is pick something the the wee beasties don't like, and lay it on! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 3:57 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: My experience with canid (coyote and wolf) urines suggests that if canids are not the local predator of interest--coyotes in England?--it may not work. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 6:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Two words - coyote urine. Seriously the local Southern States sells a critter repellent based on dried coyote urine. In our case, the biggest critter problem with my BOG so far has been deer - tangle-footed beasts! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 9:11 AM, Tracey Gardner wrote: I'd be interested to know what critter/rodent damage these BOGs get? My experience, in the UK, of leaving the last 60m of my Beverage lying on the ground for a few days, is that the insulation got chewed through in seven places. I would be interested in trying a BOG but I have a feeling that it wouldn't last long here. 73s Tracey G5VU ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4866 - Release Date: 03/12/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough?
F'heaven's sake, Garry, I meant naive about how widely they range in the East, and it was all tongue in cheek, from beginning to end. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 4:31 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: Westerners naive about coyotes? That is an interesting concept. DC and NYC are within the natural range of coyotes, but I have serious doubts about England. Coyote urine may work, but it did not keep my feedlines from being chewed by (eastern) Grey Squirrels that have displaced the native brown units. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 1:01 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Man, you Westerners are naive! We even have coyotes in downtown Washington and New York City. Ratty looking, but out there hunting. Anyhow, the general idea is pick something the the wee beasties don't like, and lay it on! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 3:57 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: My experience with canid (coyote and wolf) urines suggests that if canids are not the local predator of interest--coyotes in England?--it may not work. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 6:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Two words - coyote urine. Seriously the local Southern States sells a critter repellent based on dried coyote urine. In our case, the biggest critter problem with my BOG so far has been deer - tangle-footed beasts! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 9:11 AM, Tracey Gardner wrote: I'd be interested to know what critter/rodent damage these BOGs get? My experience, in the UK, of leaving the last 60m of my Beverage lying on the ground for a few days, is that the insulation got chewed through in seven places. I would be interested in trying a BOG but I have a feeling that it wouldn't last long here. 73s Tracey G5VU ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough?
Go Mustangs! Wayne from Mineola!!! -- From: ZR z...@jeremy.mv.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:57 PM To: ga...@ni6t.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough? Gary, the coyotes you and I grew up with were the stadium cheerleaders between Valley Stream Central and North. Boy, they were worse than the guys! Carl - Original Message - From: Garry Shapiro ga...@ni6t.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Deterring Critters was:Re: How Good is Good Enough? Westerners naive about coyotes? That is an interesting concept. DC and NYC are within the natural range of coyotes, but I have serious doubts about England. Coyote urine may work, but it did not keep my feedlines from being chewed by (eastern) Grey Squirrels that have displaced the native brown units. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 1:01 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Man, you Westerners are naive! We even have coyotes in downtown Washington and New York City. Ratty looking, but out there hunting. Anyhow, the general idea is pick something the the wee beasties don't like, and lay it on! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 3:57 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: My experience with canid (coyote and wolf) urines suggests that if canids are not the local predator of interest--coyotes in England?--it may not work. Garry, NI6T On 3/12/2012 6:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Two words - coyote urine. Seriously the local Southern States sells a critter repellent based on dried coyote urine. In our case, the biggest critter problem with my BOG so far has been deer - tangle-footed beasts! 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 3/12/2012 9:11 AM, Tracey Gardner wrote: I'd be interested to know what critter/rodent damage these BOGs get? My experience, in the UK, of leaving the last 60m of my Beverage lying on the ground for a few days, is that the insulation got chewed through in seven places. I would be interested in trying a BOG but I have a feeling that it wouldn't last long here. 73s Tracey G5VU ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4866 - Release Date: 03/12/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
