Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-31 Thread GaryK9GS
No problem Carl.   Ax they say in real  estate,  "location,  location,  
location "  :)


73,
Gary K9GS
 Original message From: Carl <k...@jeremy.qozzy.com> Date: 
8/31/17  7:42 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: garyk9gs <garyk...@wi.rr.com>, 
topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
I was only referring to its physical characteristics, not location. Having 
been raised on LI it was not a good place for verticals, especially a 
Gotham!

OTOH I worked lots of 160M AM mobiles there out to 20 miles or so during 
their evening commuting hours. I was running a Viking I at 100W to a 40M 
dipole fed with 72 Ohm twinlead with the ends tied together. Absolutely no 
ground...at about 15-16 I didnt know better!

Sorry for the confusion.

Carl
301 DXCC 39 Zones on 160 CW all from one NH town, no remotes EVER



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From: "garyk9gs" <garyk...@wi.rr.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes


> But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to North 
> America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge advantage, 
> particularly on the low bands.
>
>
> 73-Gary K9GS
>  Original message From: Carl <k...@jeremy.qozzy.com> Date: 
> 8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS <garyk...@wi.rr.com>, 
> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
> Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.
>
> Carl
>
>
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> From: "GaryK9GS" <garyk...@wi.rr.com>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>
>
>>
>> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long
>> Island.
>>
>> 73,
>> Gary K9GS
>> ---- Original message From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date:
>> 8/28/17 5:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore <d...@ellmore.net>,
>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>> Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading 
>> coil
>> at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run
>> all over my 60x90 house plot. Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with
>> 32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
>> My secret: JT65  (tnx K1JT)
>> Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
>> with a little patience and VERY modest antennas. 73, Jay NY2NY
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Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-31 Thread Glenn Wyant
Since 1984, only inverted L , no RX antennas, city lot , city noise, inv L ( 
70' vertical ), near Toronto, 277 dxcc countries worked and confirmed. Va3dx

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> On Aug 31, 2017, at 17:15, garyk9gs <garyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to North 
> America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge advantage, 
> particularly on the low bands.
> 
> 
> 73-Gary K9GS 
>  Original message From: Carl <k...@jeremy.qozzy.com> Date: 
> 8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS <garyk...@wi.rr.com>, 
> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
> Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "GaryK9GS" <garyk...@wi.rr.com>
> To: <topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
> 
> 
>> 
>> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long 
>> Island.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gary K9GS
>>  Original message ----From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date: 
>> 8/28/17  5:22 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore <d...@ellmore.net>, 
>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>> Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil
>> at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run
>> all over my 60x90 house plot. Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with
>> 32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
>> My secret: JT65  (tnx K1JT)
>> Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
>> with a little patience and VERY modest antennas. 73, Jay NY2NY
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Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-31 Thread garyk9gs
But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to North 
America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge advantage, 
particularly on the low bands.


73-Gary K9GS 
 Original message From: Carl <k...@jeremy.qozzy.com> Date: 
8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS <garyk...@wi.rr.com>, 
topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.

Carl


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To: <topband@contesting.com>
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Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes


>
> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long 
> Island.
>
> 73,
> Gary K9GS
>  Original message From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date: 
> 8/28/17  5:22 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore <d...@ellmore.net>, 
> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
> Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil
> at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run
> all over my 60x90 house plot. Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with
> 32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
> My secret: JT65  (tnx K1JT)
> Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
> with a little patience and VERY modest antennas. 73, Jay NY2NY
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Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-28 Thread Wes Stewart

As the real estate people say, "Location, location, location."

Wes  N7WS

On 8/28/2017 3:22 PM, jayb1...@optonline.net wrote:

Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil
at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run
all over my 60x90 house plot.  Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with
32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
My secret: JT65   (tnx K1JT)
  Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
with a little patience and VERY modest antennas.   73, Jay NY2NY
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Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-28 Thread GaryK9GS

I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long Island. 

73,
Gary K9GS
 Original message From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date: 8/28/17  
5:22 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore <d...@ellmore.net>, 
topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil 
at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run 
all over my 60x90 house plot.  Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with 
32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
My secret: JT65   (tnx K1JT)
 Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band 
with a little patience and VERY modest antennas.   73, Jay NY2NY 
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Re: Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-28 Thread JAYB1943
Last fall I installed an “S-9” 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil 
at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run 
all over my 60x90 house plot.  Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with 
32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
My secret: JT65   (tnx K1JT)
 Try anything – you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band 
with a little patience and VERY modest antennas.   73, Jay NY2NY 
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Topband: Inverted L successes

2017-08-28 Thread Doug Ellmore
I moved to a sloping Inverted L last fall when I only had 17 countries
confirmed on DXCC.

Initially the base had three 56' ground radials and was fed 40' from my
tower.  The diagonally placed vertical sloped up towards the base of my
Navassa5 yagi at 40', then horizontal toward a tree.

I confirmed 70+ countries by December 2016.  In January I added 15 radials
about 30' long.

I direct fed the antenna.  I had a 7 toroid (31) to provide a choke at the
feed point.

I used QRP to 1500w to work stations and confirmed DXCC in March.

I worked sunrise, sunsets, and various times during the night.

An inverted L no matter what height the vertical section is better than a
dipole.  In this case, a little of something is better than a lot of
nothing.

DON'T over think it.   Just Do It!

73

Doug / NA1DX

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