Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-13 Thread Dan Edward Dba East edwards
alexey

yes, i understand the thinking, re JT-9 / JT-65; best QSO you never heard as 
W4ZV said...
 and, 'if i did not hear it with my ears, it does not exist, I can not work it, 
it doesn't count' also..

still, ARRL DXCC desk doesn't care what mode we use, right?  sowhat the 
heck?

as jim, K9YC pointed out, directional receiving antennas, 'reasonably 
efficient' transmit antennas,
 and receivers, transmitters,  amplifiers are still necessary...I am just 
adding K1JT's impressive
 software to the toolbox.

I'm just trying to work something on what sounds like a dead band.  Today, it 
was impressive.
 20 mins past sunrise, i was still de-coding vk3xq ( and he heard me ), and the 
band sounded
 'dead'I rarely work any dx 5 minutes after sunrise on top band, from this 
QTH..

reception in suburban locations is challenging.  Are multi-acre, deep rural 
locations a requirement for
 peer approval when chasing dx on top band?  I hope not.

To be sure, when signals become readable again, I will be back on cw...

73, w5xz, dan



On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:01 AM, ALEXEY OGORODOV ua4...@mail.ru wrote:
 



Hello brethren,

I´m ready to be crucified yet I couldn´t resist asking a question:
What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer?
IMHO Digimodes undermine the value of low band dxing. I don't arfue over 
reliability of the modes and their help in extension of hamradio capabilities 
in general yet JT and such do not require much from the operator.

With all due respect,

Alex


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Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Dan Edward Dba East edwards
greetings

to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak
 signal digi-modes.  Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65...
 VK3XQ comes through almost every day..

but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power.  Is the band
 really THAT bad to Eu, still?

from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help...

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Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Tim Shoppa
There's the band, and then there's folks using the band. Both have to line
up!

Important thing is that it is winter in VK :-). So more likely for VK's to
be on topband than for EU's.

I don't do JT-65 but below I share some of my experience with CW this
summer on 160M:

Just in the past week I have been able to hear intermittent EU 160M CW
activity as I clean up my K9AY loop.

In the Summer Stew, I worked one EU, which is kinda the best case I had
hoped for. I was surprised when I went back this morning to look at the
reversebeacon reports for the summer stew... for a bit I was getting
spotted on 160M on several places in Europe. I notice that NO3M who was
also very active in Summer Stew was getting spotted too but not at exact
same times:

 grep N3QE 20140622.csv | grep 160m | grep EU
DR1A,DL,EU,1823.3,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 01:40:23,21,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.3,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 01:40:36,21,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 01:45:19,22,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,9,2014-06-22 01:57:52,21,CW
DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,23,2014-06-22 02:02:35,24,CW
DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,26,2014-06-22 02:03:20,24,CW
DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,14,2014-06-22 02:12:56,23,CW
DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,17,2014-06-22 02:13:10,23,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 02:16:48,24,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 02:23:54,24,CW
DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,4,2014-06-22 02:25:52,24,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,7,2014-06-22 02:34:00,24,CW
DL1EMY,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,3,2014-06-22 02:34:17,24,CW
DR1A,DL,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,8,2014-06-22 02:36:48,20,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1823.4,160m,N3QE,K,NA,CQ,6,2014-06-22 02:44:11,22,CW

 grep NO3M 20140622.csv | grep 160m | grep EU
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 03:33:30,29,CW
EI6IZ,EI,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,10,2014-06-22 03:33:43,29,CW
GW8IZR,GW,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,25,2014-06-22 03:45:06,29,CW
EI6IZ,EI,EU,1819.4,160m,NO3M,K,NA,CQ,21,2014-06-22 03:48:16,28,CW

Tim N3QE




On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Dan Edward Dba East edwards 
dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 greetings

 to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak
  signal digi-modes.  Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65...
  VK3XQ comes through almost every day..

 but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power.  Is the
 band
  really THAT bad to Eu, still?

 from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help...

 73, W5XZ, Dan
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Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Brian D G3VGZ
Dan Edward Dba East edwards dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 greetings
 
 to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak
 signal digi-modes.  Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65...
 VK3XQ comes through almost every day..
 
 but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power.  Is the
 band really THAT bad to Eu, still?
 
 from a noisy suburban location, WSJT-x seems to help...

I'm a late night person so sunrise is unlikely for me but the band has been
very quiet late evening/early morning of late, apart from the S9++ static
from summer storms. CQs on JT9/65 have only registered at most two or three
eu stations on the RB sites but no replies.

80m has been quite good but few new DX stations to work! VK/ZL coming
through grey line, and Namibia/ZS most evenings.




 
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Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread ALEXEY OGORODOV

Hello brethren,

I´m ready to be crucified yet I couldn´t resist asking a question:
What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer?
IMHO Digimodes undermine the value of low band dxing. I don't arfue over 
reliability of the modes and their help in extension of hamradio capabilities 
in general yet JT and such do not require much from the operator.

With all due respect,

Alex


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Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Jim Brown

On 8/12/2014 8:00 AM, ALEXEY OGORODOV wrote:

What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer?


There's far more to ham radio than making QSOs on CW (which I have been 
doing for 59 years). There's also station and antenna building, learning 
new techniques, interfacing computers to rigs, and so on.


From my QTH 5 miles from the Pacific, 70 miles S of San Francisco, I 
haven't heard EU on 160 for three seasons, and I've never heard any 
stations from eastern Europe in the 8 years I've lived here. If any of 
K1JT's WSJT modes let me do that, I'll use them. They are NOT automatic 
modes, they do require operator skill and knowledge of propagation, and 
they do require transmitters, receivers, and antennas.


Although W5XZ did not say so in his post, he often is on the band 
calling CQ on CW. I know because I hear him.


73, Jim K9YC
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