Re: Topband: P.O.A.
However, if they have internet capabilities in P5, then can work themselves. -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of DXer Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:18 PM To: Topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: P.O.A. Hi Paul, Think about an eventual P5 activation, a mega one, with lots of ops. The likelyhood that many of them will not have P5 already confirmed, is a real possibility. They will be there making a lot of people happy, but not adding that ATNO themselves, unless another ham operate from their home station. And P5 being what it is, another activation may take a few generations to happen again. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 12:00 PM, Paul Kiesel via Topband wrote: > On the other hand... > > Tim Pettis, KL7WE (SK), in chasing WAS on 432, was known to visit needed rare states with a portable EME station, put it on from there, and work his own station (as well as others) to get credit for those states. Another ham would operate his home station. This action of visiting ops operating stations of guys on DXpeditions continues to this day and contacts made like this should be and are considered to be completely valid. You should consider re-evaluating the contacts made by your good friend. > > 73, > Paul K7CW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: P.O.A.
And don't forget remotes. While they may not be feasible from every location and operation, it allows the DXpedioner to be at both ends of the same QSO. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 12:17 PM, DXer wrote: Hi Paul, Think about an eventual P5 activation, a mega one, with lots of ops. The likelyhood that many of them will not have P5 already confirmed, is a real possibility. They will be there making a lot of people happy, but not adding that ATNO themselves, unless another ham operate from their home station. And P5 being what it is, another activation may take a few generations to happen again. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 12:00 PM, Paul Kiesel via Topband wrote: On the other hand... Tim Pettis, KL7WE (SK), in chasing WAS on 432, was known to visit needed rare states with a portable EME station, put it on from there, and work his own station (as well as others) to get credit for those states. Another ham would operate his home station. This action of visiting ops operating stations of guys on DXpeditions continues to this day and contacts made like this should be and are considered to be completely valid. You should consider re-evaluating the contacts made by your good friend. 73, Paul K7CW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: P.O.A.
Hi Paul, Think about an eventual P5 activation, a mega one, with lots of ops. The likelyhood that many of them will not have P5 already confirmed, is a real possibility. They will be there making a lot of people happy, but not adding that ATNO themselves, unless another ham operate from their home station. And P5 being what it is, another activation may take a few generations to happen again. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 12:00 PM, Paul Kiesel via Topband wrote: On the other hand... Tim Pettis, KL7WE (SK), in chasing WAS on 432, was known to visit needed rare states with a portable EME station, put it on from there, and work his own station (as well as others) to get credit for those states. Another ham would operate his home station. This action of visiting ops operating stations of guys on DXpeditions continues to this day and contacts made like this should be and are considered to be completely valid. You should consider re-evaluating the contacts made by your good friend. 73, Paul K7CW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: P.O.A.
On the other hand... Tim Pettis, KL7WE (SK), in chasing WAS on 432, was known to visit needed rare states with a portable EME station, put it on from there, and work his own station (as well as others) to get credit for those states. Another ham would operate his home station. This action of visiting ops operating stations of guys on DXpeditions continues to this day and contacts made like this should be and are considered to be completely valid. You should consider re-evaluating the contacts made by your good friend. BTW, I had my first ham radio contact in Tim's shack when he was K7BRQ. We went to elementary and high school together. 73, Paul K7CW On Sun, 5/21/17, W9UCW--- via Topband <topband@contesting.com> wrote: Subject: Topband: P.O.A. To: Topband@contesting.com, k8...@alphacomm.net Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 7:34 AM Brian, your comments about digital modes made me think back on times "BDM," (before digital modes). The occurrence I'm about to describe clarified what it takes for me to feel accomplishment in the "on the air" part of Ham radio. This happened over 40 years ago. While I was on one of 20 trips to South America that allways included operating from HK0, San Andres, a lifelong buddy of mine in Illinois drove out to our home and asked my wife to let him fire up my station. He got on the air and worked two DXpeditions at a couple very rare locations, using my call. He knew I didn't have those two and they might not be on again for many years. While he was there, he filled out QSL cards for the contacts, took them with him and sent them out. Neither he nor my wife or daughters mentioned this occurrence to me. Getting the cards would be the big surprise. So later, when the cards came, I looked at the date and started asking questions. My buddy was all giddy about what he had done for me. Everybody gets their jollies in different ways and that's what makes the world go around. I can't think of a reason why I would complain about how others get theirs. But I remember looking at those cards and realizing that they meant nothing to me. There was no satisfaction in the fact that they had been worked from my station, because I was not part of the equation. . I thanked my buddy. For him, his jollies came from getting in the log and getting the cards, by any means possible. I respect that and didn't argue. He laughed and said "Those were P.O.A. contacts." That means "power of attorney." I wasn't happy until I had worked those two entities myself. This all made it clear to me how I get satisfaction from on-the-air contacts. 73, Barry, W9UCW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: P.O.A.
Hi Barry, Very early on, I decided that any valid personal QSO, would have to be made not only by me, but using my own station. This decision has kept me off the air for long stretches of time, and that was, and still is, fine with me. I don't have a problem with those thinking differently. We're all bound to obey the rules (the ones issued from our capitals), and operate ethically, after that, we are free to set our own goals and expectations. As the saying goes: if you are not having fun, you are not doing it right. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 10:34 AM, W9UCW--- via Topband wrote: So later, when the cards came, I looked at the date and started asking questions. My buddy was all giddy about what he had done for me. Everybody gets their jollies in different ways and that's what makes the world go around. I can't think of a reason why I would complain about how others get theirs. But I remember looking at those cards and realizing that they meant nothing to me. There was no satisfaction in the fact that they had been worked from my station, because I was not part of the equation. . 73, Barry, W9UCW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: P.O.A.
Brian, your comments about digital modes made me think back on times "BDM," (before digital modes). The occurrence I'm about to describe clarified what it takes for me to feel accomplishment in the "on the air" part of Ham radio. This happened over 40 years ago. While I was on one of 20 trips to South America that allways included operating from HK0, San Andres, a lifelong buddy of mine in Illinois drove out to our home and asked my wife to let him fire up my station. He got on the air and worked two DXpeditions at a couple very rare locations, using my call. He knew I didn't have those two and they might not be on again for many years. While he was there, he filled out QSL cards for the contacts, took them with him and sent them out. Neither he nor my wife or daughters mentioned this occurrence to me. Getting the cards would be the big surprise. So later, when the cards came, I looked at the date and started asking questions. My buddy was all giddy about what he had done for me. Everybody gets their jollies in different ways and that's what makes the world go around. I can't think of a reason why I would complain about how others get theirs. But I remember looking at those cards and realizing that they meant nothing to me. There was no satisfaction in the fact that they had been worked from my station, because I was not part of the equation. . I thanked my buddy. For him, his jollies came from getting in the log and getting the cards, by any means possible. I respect that and didn't argue. He laughed and said "Those were P.O.A. contacts." That means "power of attorney." I wasn't happy until I had worked those two entities myself. This all made it clear to me how I get satisfaction from on-the-air contacts. 73, Barry, W9UCW _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
