Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax vs toslink

2012-08-08 Thread cwon

I won't touch the audibility of differences between optical and coax
cables.

The advantage of using a toslink is that there's no electrical
connection between the source and the DAC, so there won't be any
grounding issues (if the components were designed without galvanic
isolation).

Where this has come into play for me is I can connect my universal
player via toslink to my DAC to watch videos without worrying about the
hum from my cable feed.

So, I just connect all my digital sources (including my TOUCH) with
toslink to my DAC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] BBC live does not work through DAC

2012-08-08 Thread dood

bpa wrote: 
> If you are using the BBCiPlayer plugin then got to the iPlayer Setting
> page WebUI Settings/Plugins/BBc iPlayer Settings and then change "Live
> stream Preference" to WMA and click Apply.

BBC iplayer just comes up by itself. I don't recall setting up any
plug-ins. Will have a look later when I get home.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] BBC live does not work through DAC

2012-08-08 Thread bpa

dood wrote: 
> How do I choose WMA for live stream?

If you are using the BBCiPlayer plugin then got to the iPlayer Setting
page WebUI Settings/Plugins/BBc iPlayer Settings and then change "Live
stream Preference" to WMA and click Apply.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] BBC live does not work through DAC

2012-08-08 Thread dood

bpa wrote: 
> 
> 
> I suggest change the BBCiPlayer setting for live stream to choose WMA
> format

ok I had a look at this.
My DAC does 32, 44.1 and 48kHz. It selects these automatically depending
on the incoming signal. I tried using maximum volume but BBC live
wouldn't play.

How do I choose WMA for live stream?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
> Hi Guido 
> 
> I bought the Anti Mode for the roomcorrection functions and was really
> surprised at how bad my room was when I saw the red line readings after
> calibration they looked like the Alps . What is more important thought
> is how much better the sound was when the correction was applied with so
> much more coherent and listenable bass and more natural voices. I am not
> thinking of going back to the sound without the AM in place. Currently I
> have it pushing out a digital output toa dac then back in to my system.
> Sadly my Pre Amp (Concordant Exhilliarant an old Tube / Valve Line
> stage) does not have balanced inputs so have to use the AM via RCA and
> it runs out of volume when used directly in to the pre. I understand
> that there is more output from the balanced XLR outputs so may look to
> get some XLR to phono leads and see if that could work .

My impression about the room correction effect is similar to yours. I
had the mono version of the AM on my sub and had experienced the same
kind of improvement, which is what led me to purchase the Dual Core for
my main speakers. I am curious, though, about your using an external DAC
(I.e., bypassing the AM's internal DAC). Have you tried using the AM's
DAC and sending its analog output directly to your preamp? 

BTW, I also found that the output volume of the AM is on the low side,
even from the XLR out, so I'm running both the AM and the preamp at full
volume (no attenuation), and use the volume on the Touch to control
volume. With this setup, I get enough SPL, but at times barely.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Flying Ed

Triode wrote: 
> AIFF should be supported with 7.8 now.  There is a bug in the server
> with 24 bit files though which means they will sound like white noise -
> I believe this is easily fixed with a small change to the server code. 
> I added a patch to the bug for it somewhere - will look for a reference
> to it.
> 
> As you want AIFF are you using a mac?  In this case you should be able
> to make the modification to the server.
> 
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17163 - post 6 shows a small
> addition you can make to the AIFF.pm file to change the offset of the
> audio data by 8 bytes which should make 24 bit files work once you
> rescan them.

Thanks Triode!.
Yes i am a Mac user.
Thanks for the info i will now try and sort it.
Cheers.
F.E.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread bencat

Hi Guido 

I bought the Anti Mode for the roomcorrection functions and was really
surprised at how bad my room was when I saw the red line readings after
calibration they looked like the Alps . What is more important thought
is how much better the sound was when the correction was applied with so
much more coherent and listenable bass and more natural voices. I am not
thinking of going back to the sound without the AM in place. Currently I
have it pushing out a digital output toa dac then back in to my system.
Sadly my Pre Amp (Concordant Exhilliarant an old Tube / Valve Line
stage) does not have balanced inputs so have to use the AM via RCA and
it runs out of volume when used directly in to the pre. I understand
that there is more output from the balanced XLR outputs so may look to
get some XLR to phono leads and see if that could work .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread SBGK

soundcheck wrote: 
> Absolutely. 
> 
> There are - out of my memory - 
> 
> 1. Output routing to hw interface
> 2. Passing by asound.conf routing table
> 3. 2nd Jive_alsa killing
> 4. Buffer size modifications
> 5. Screen totally Off
> 6. Increase key process priorities 
> 
> (All this is no rocket science btw. - I do claim I'm the first who put
> all those tweaks together as package into the context of improving
> efficiency of the SBT)
> 
> The measures I've applied, I obviously put  into a slightly different
> context, which belongs to a different area of this forum. 
> Triode would of course never admit that he also appreciates associated
> "side-effects". He intends to survive a bit longer 
> over here, so better don't touch that hot potato. 
> I'm pretty sure EDO users are appreciating those side-effects. 
> 
> Just to mention it.  EDO might even work without above listed measures,
> since the main issues seem to be driver and jive related. I'll stop
> here...
> 
> However. 
> 
> What's common about the measures is that they intented to increase the
> efficiency of a computer system. They'd work on any Linux/Android
> system.
> 
> 
> Triode had serious problems to get rid of XRUNS in the early days. Even
> all my system optimizations wouldn't 
> stop certain DACs to run into XRUNS. This led him into tweaking the
> Linux audio drivers. 
> 
> Just to mention it: USB audio has always been working on the Touch. 
> 
> 
> Triode put an amazing effort into the subject and has shown a great
> level of skills to make it all available by putting it into the
> LMS/Squeezeplay environment. Great job. 
> 
> I do limit my appreciation to the Squeezeplay/LMS/driver part of the
> story...

What a week, can it get any better ? 

First NASA lands Curiosity on Mars and now Soundcheck gives us the
benefit of his knowledge. 

If Soundcheck brought out a version of EDO would it be called EGO ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

Dazed and Confused wrote: 
> Just set up Touch for the first time. FLAC files are being fed via a
> wired connection from a Synology DS212+ NAS, then into amp (analogue)
> using the supplied leads and thenspeakers. The sound is very digital, ie
> bright and and I want to know ways of making it less digital. I have
> read that power supplies can help and also feeding into a stand alone
> DAC then into the AMP.

In my experience and with my systems (see sig below) the sound of the
Touch, either through the digital or the analog out, is not particularly
bright or 'digital'. Aubuti's advice is good: listen for a while before
spending money on new equipment. But if after a few weeks you still find
the sound objectionable, then you may want to focus on that which may
actually make a significant difference in sound: primarily speakers,
speaker and listening chair placement, and room. Amps, preamps (if any)
and DACs can have an effect on sound, but their contribution is
generally far less evident than that of speakers and room.

Hope this helps, but feel free to tell us more about your equipment,
room, listening habits, etc., if you would like further advice.

Regards,

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Triode

Flying Ed wrote: 
> Is it a possibility at anytime in the future that the app will offer
> support in 24/176/192 for AIFF files?

AIFF should be supported with 7.8 now.  There is a bug in the server
with 24 bit files though which means they will sound like white noise -
I believe this is easily fixed with a small change to the server code. 
I added a patch to the bug for it somewhere - will look for a reference
to it.

As you want AIFF are you using a mac?  In this case you should be able
to make the modification to the server.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
> Hi Guidof 
> 
> Thanks for your information and response it at least means that it is
> not just my set up that has an issue. Has anyone responded as to why it
> does not work ? Is the issue with the Anti - Mode or the SBT ? 
> 
> Will at some point get the Anti Mode unit connected directly to my Power
> amp and give it a try but not sure that it will be any better than the
> P-1a > Antimode > P-3a I currently have but certainly worth trying .

I also tried the Anti Mode as a preamp (I.e., connected directly into my
amp). But I found the resulting sound to be a bit on the sterile side
and lacking in dynamics. Similar to the sound I get if I run my preamp
in passive mode. That's why I now use the Anti Mode purely as EQ/DAC and
run its balanced analog output into my preamp set for active mode (see
sig below). Sounds very good to me, much better than my prior setup with
the CA 840C as DAC. The benefit of room mode correction is significant
in my setup. Of course, your room and your experience may be different.

Best,

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?

2012-08-08 Thread aubuti

Welcome to the forums. It's hard to know what to suggest without knowing
more about the rest of your system, and also bright compared to what (a
CD player, something else). The Touch's DAC is quite good, but there are
better external DACs out there. Certainly give the Touch a few days'
listening before doing anything drastic.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?

2012-08-08 Thread Dazed and Confused

Just set up Touch for the first time. FLAC files are being fed via a
wired connection from a Synology DS212+ NAS, then into amp (analogue)
using the supplied leads and thenspeakers. The sound is very digital, ie
bright and and I want to know ways of making it less digital. I have
read that power supplies can help and also feeding into a stand alone
DAC then into the AMP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread bencat

Hi Guidof 

Thanks for your information and response it at least means that it is
not just my set up that has an issue. Has anyone responded as to why it
does not work ? Is the issue with the Anti - Mode or the SBT ? 

Will at some point get the Anti Mode unit connected directly to my Power
amp and give it a try but not sure that it will be any better than the
P-1a > Antimode > P-3a I currently have but certainly worth trying .



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Does anyone know if Musicovery stations can be broadcast through the Squeezebox?

2012-08-08 Thread Ocean56

I looked at Musicovery's site and didn't see any information about doing
this.

Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
> I have an SBT and have loaded the Triode EDO App mainly in the past for
> the digital out via Coaxial SPDIF . I have recently bought an Anti -
> Mode 2.0 Dual Core 
> http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/20-dual-core.shtml.
> The unit only has SPDIF in and out as Toslink or USB and I wanted to use
> the USB from the SBT as the digital out. However when I connected the
> two units there was no connection made and nothing but static was coming
> through the Anti - Mode unit and the small screen froze and showed
> distorted graphics. 
> According to the unit it is compliant with USB 2.0 but it is just a
> straight USB input. 
> Can you advise if this is just a connection issue because I tried the
> unit when switched on ? If I connect the SBT and the Anti-Mode while
> switched off and then power them both up at the same time would this
> make the right connection ? Are there any settings on the SBT that I
> would need to change ?

I tried the same setup in my system and discovered that it won't work.
As a workaround I inserted a Music Fidelity VLink II USB to SPDIF
converter between the SBT and the Dual Core. BTW, I found that the DAC
in the Dual Core is more transparent than my former DAC (a Cambridge
Audio 840C). 

Regards,

Guido F.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread bencat

I have an SBT and have loaded the Triode EDO App mainly in the past for
the digital out via Coaxial SPDIF . I have recently bought an Anti -
Mode 2.0 Dual Core 
http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/20-dual-core.shtml.
The unit only has SPDIF in and out as Toslink or USB and I wanted to use
the USB from the SBT as the digital out. However when I connected the
two units there was no connection made and nothing but static was coming
through the Anti - Mode unit and the small screen froze and showed
distorted graphics. 
According to the unit it is compliant with USB 2.0 but it is just a
straight USB input. 
Can you advise if this is just a connection issue because I tried the
unit when switched on ? If I connect the SBT and the Anti-Mode while
switched off and then power them both up at the same time would this
make the right connection ? Are there any settings on the SBT that I
would need to change ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Flying Ed

Is it a possibility at anytime in the future that the app will offer
support in 24/176/192 for AIFF files?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] BBC live does not work through DAC

2012-08-08 Thread bpa

If you are not in tthe UK and using AAC streams - then BBC have recently
changed live http/AAC streams from 48kbps/44.1kHz to 56kbps/32kHz. 
There was a choice for a while but it now seems to have gone.

I think the WMA streams are still 48kbps/44.1kHz.



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