Re: [Tutor] Java equivalent of Python-Tutor?

2018-02-07 Thread boB Stepp
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Terry Carroll  wrote:
>
> In my early days of using Python I benefited greatly from this Tutor list, 
> thanks to both Alan and Steven as well as as many contributors. I still check 
> in now and then and try to chime in to help now that I have a bit more 
> experience under my belt.
>
> I'm doing a few projects in Java now and would love to find a similar 
> resource that covers that language, and the Eclipse IDE. Some of my questions 
> are too newbie for a forum like stackoverflow (and most of the responses 
> there assume a non-newbie level of knowledge).
>
> Any suggestions?

When I was dabbling with Java a few years ago, I found the Beginning
Java Forum at JavaRanch helpful.  It can be found at:

https://coderanch.com/f/33/java

-- 
boB
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Re: [Tutor] Java equivalent of Python-Tutor?

2018-02-07 Thread Alan Gauld via Tutor
On 07/02/18 20:06, Terry Carroll wrote:

> I'm doing a few projects in Java now and would love to find a similar 
> resource that covers that language, 

I did a deep dive into Java for a new job a couple of years ago
and found the official Oracle tutorials very good combined with
YouTube videos for a quick overview.

If you have a reasonable Python background you should be able
to follow it easily enough. The biggest challenges are the
static typing (which soon becomes frustratingly annoying
after Python! - that's where the IDE pays dividends)

> and the Eclipse IDE. 

I used Netbeans as it is the official Java IDE so I can't
help with Java on Eclipse, although I do know a lot of it
depends on which plugins you install (I used it for
UML designs in a previous life!).

> Any suggestions? 

I also used two books (Actually I read about 5 but
these were the most useful):

- Learning Java - O'Reilly
and
- Java A Beginners Guide

Both are good but, if forced to choose just one, I'd
now opt for the more advanced version of the latter:
"Java The Complete Reference" by the same author,
Herbert Schildt. There is a new 10th edition out which
means the previous one is available at much cheaper
prices...

FWIW Java 8 is now a half decent language, something
I'd never have said about Java up to v5 (which was
the last time I looked at it).

Finally, If you need to use the Enterprise extensions
(JEE) you can use the online tutorials but I definitely
recommend pre-viewing YouTube vids for that.
They really help with the concepts.

HTH,

-- 
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
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[Tutor] Java equivalent of Python-Tutor?

2018-02-07 Thread Terry Carroll
In my early days of using Python I benefited greatly from this Tutor list, 
thanks to both Alan and Steven as well as as many contributors. I still 
check in now and then and try to chime in to help now that I have a bit 
more experience under my belt.


I'm doing a few projects in Java now and would love to find a similar 
resource that covers that language, and the Eclipse IDE. Some of my 
questions are too newbie for a forum like stackoverflow (and most of the 
responses there assume a non-newbie level of knowledge).


Any suggestions? (I acknowledge that this is a bit off-topic, but I hope 
the blatantly obsequious sucking up at the beginning of my note makes up 
for it.)


--
Terry Carroll
carr...@tjc.com
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