need a little info
Hi, I notice that when ever I get a apt-update and do dist-upgrade, there is usually something to get. I had someone run the software update before I did this two times and it said the system is up to date. Does any one know why the terminal program gets updates and the update manager says I am up to date. The update manager is working, because it does find updates if I go a day with out doing the other. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
info for new users.
Hi, what I just discovered may be of use to new users. After entering the view menu of the file browser to change a setting, I explored the other menus. In the file menu there is a option to empty the trash. Just another way you can get to it. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: a way to change del settings
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:39:26AM EST, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi is there a way to get orca to ask before deleting a file. > I noticed when I press del this is done right away. The file has actually been moved to the trash. If you navigate the bottom panel, you will find the trash icon as the very right most item on the bottom panel. Hope this helps. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
a way to change del settings
Hi is there a way to get orca to ask before deleting a file. I noticed when I press del this is done right away. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Team meeting
Gaim includes IRC, and Orca does an excellent job of providing access to Gaim! --joanie On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 22:43 +0200, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Will this chat client work with Orca? > > > > It should work, but IRC clients are traditionally a bit tricky -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 42957] Re: Control mouse with keyboard crash X
I have upgraded to Edgy today, and this bug disappear. In fact the drag&drop functionality was simply removed, that is why there is no longer the bug. It's not perfect (missing drag&drop with the keyboard) but it is much better than before! -- Control mouse with keyboard crash X https://launchpad.net/bugs/42957 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > I filed a request to enable javascript support on the elinks package. I > would also like to file a bug on the > libmozjs-dev package in case the elinks maintainer doesn't want to > enable javascript. If libmozjs-dev can be installed, then I can just > build my own elinks from source. > > I'm not familiar with launchpad, so I can't figure out how to file a bug > against libmozjs-dev yet. I'll keep poking around until I figure it > out. In such cases you can also just file against 'ubuntu' and someone who is more familiar with it can re-assign. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Team meeting
Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Will this chat client work with Orca? > It should work, but IRC clients are traditionally a bit tricky because of their non-standard layout and information flow (new entries appearing with time). You might get more mileage from Gaim which Orca has been tweaked for (scripting power!). Please feel free to try it all out ahead of time in our usual gathering place at #ubuntu-accessibility on irc.freenode.net. > Is this a meeting where everyone's invited? > YES! All our team meetings are open to everyone. This one might be rather tightly focused on Edgy testing and fixing but we'll do general introductions and we'll have another meeting soon with more open style brainstorming about the future. > Sorry for the newbyish questions. No worries :) Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
Hi. I filed a request to enable javascript support on the elinks package. I would also like to file a bug on the libmozjs-dev package in case the elinks maintainer doesn't want to enable javascript. If libmozjs-dev can be installed, then I can just build my own elinks from source. I'm not familiar with launchpad, so I can't figure out how to file a bug against libmozjs-dev yet. I'll keep poking around until I figure it out. Kenny On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 06:01:32PM +0200, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > Hi Kenny, > > Could you file a bug explaining the situation here: > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/elinks/+bugs ? > > Not sure we can do this for Edgy and there may be good reasons why it > was disabled. We might be able to make a separate download available though. > > Henrik > > Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Since Firefox accessibility still has a ways to go, I do most of my web > > browsing with elinks. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu elinks package has > > javascript support disabled. When I try to install the libmozjs-dev > > package needed to get javascript support in elinks, aptitude wants to > > remove large parts of gnome to satisfy dependencies. > > > > Would it be possible to enable javascript support in the Ubuntu elinks > > package? If not, does anyone know a way to install the libmozjs-dev > > package so I can build elinks from source without breaking Gnome? > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ho do I see file size.
Hi. If you mean in nautilus, it is in the view menu. Kenny On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:52:56PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, at one time I was able to hear the file size and date. > I think I had to change it to list view. > However I don't see this in the menu settings anymore. > Has anyone else done this. > Mike. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
ho do I see file size.
Hi, at one time I was able to hear the file size and date. I think I had to change it to list view. However I don't see this in the menu settings anymore. Has anyone else done this. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
how often are updates posted.
Hi, how often are updates posted. I got some this morning, and when I checked a hour later there were 7 more. Are these posted threw out the day. Also I assume since I am using apt-get and the dist-upgrade that I have to run apt-get update each time before asking for a upgrade. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Team meeting
Hello Krister, Am Mittwoch, den 04.10.2006, 19:08 +0200 schrieb Krister Ekstrom: > Is this a meeting where everyone's invited? absolutely - it's public and going to be in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net Have a nice day, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Team meeting
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 16:46 +0200, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > For those new to IRC see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto > Will this chat client work with Orca? I assume it does, but ask anyways. Is this a meeting where everyone's invited? Sorry for the newbyish questions. I just don't wanna stomp in where i don't belong. -- /Krister -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
I can confirm that it is so. I tried to install the necessary components to get the Javascript support and had my gnome removed. I had to install it again, and this removed the javascript components... /Krister On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 09:39 -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > Since Firefox accessibility still has a ways to go, I do most of my web > browsing with elinks. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu elinks package has > javascript support disabled. When I try to install the libmozjs-dev > package needed to get javascript support in elinks, aptitude wants to > remove large parts of gnome to satisfy dependencies. > > Would it be possible to enable javascript support in the Ubuntu elinks > package? If not, does anyone know a way to install the libmozjs-dev > package so I can build elinks from source without breaking Gnome? > > Kenny > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
Hi Kenny, Could you file a bug explaining the situation here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/elinks/+bugs ? Not sure we can do this for Edgy and there may be good reasons why it was disabled. We might be able to make a separate download available though. Henrik Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > Since Firefox accessibility still has a ways to go, I do most of my web > browsing with elinks. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu elinks package has > javascript support disabled. When I try to install the libmozjs-dev > package needed to get javascript support in elinks, aptitude wants to > remove large parts of gnome to satisfy dependencies. > > Would it be possible to enable javascript support in the Ubuntu elinks > package? If not, does anyone know a way to install the libmozjs-dev > package so I can build elinks from source without breaking Gnome? > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Team meeting
Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello, > > Am Dienstag, den 03.10.2006, 16:13 +0200 schrieb Henrik Nilsen Omma: > >> Earlier would actually be preferred for me as well (10.00 GMT, say). >> > > I'd be happy with 10:00 UTC too. > Right, let's go with that then. I've update the agenda. For those new to IRC see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
building elinks with javascript support breaks Gnome
Hi. Since Firefox accessibility still has a ways to go, I do most of my web browsing with elinks. Unfortunately, the Ubuntu elinks package has javascript support disabled. When I try to install the libmozjs-dev package needed to get javascript support in elinks, aptitude wants to remove large parts of gnome to satisfy dependencies. Would it be possible to enable javascript support in the Ubuntu elinks package? If not, does anyone know a way to install the libmozjs-dev package so I can build elinks from source without breaking Gnome? Kenny -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
help with networks
Hi, has anyone played with connecting to a network. I see my network, but at first it says it can't connect because it isn't a folder. However if I press enter a few times it does open the folder. It then does this again for the server I want to connect to. I don't have a password, so is there a setting to correct this. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: BrlTTY / orca
Hi Samuel, You mentioned you didn't quite get how my system is set up. Sorry for not providing enough context in this thread. Here's how things basically work: I'm natively running Windows XP and Dolphin Supernova 7, which is a combined screen reader and magnifier. WIthin WIndows I have a pair of virtual serial ports com 1 and com 2 that are connected like a null-modem cable. Additionally, I'm running VmWare Server 1.01 which runs Ubuntu Dapper as a guest OS. There's a serial port in that Linux virtual machine which is connected to the host machine's com2 port. The last component of the puzzle is the terminal emulator TeraTerm which monitors the com 1 port, that being the other end of the virtual null modem cable. In this setup I gave the following boot parameter even before launching the DApper installer: console=ttyS0 on the virtual machine. So what this amounts to is this: I can run LInux inside Windows. ALl the console output in LInux goes via the virtual null modem cable to my Windows terminal emulator. There my WIndows screen reader is able to both speak and braille everything console related with my speech synth and language of choice (including proper Finnish support). From Dapper's point of view it is just using a serial console. Additionally, I get the Gnome display inside VmWare Server, and can use Supernova's magnification to examine the screen and roughly track the virtual machine mouse. VmWare server also supports USB devices and if my WIndows reader is not using it, the LINux virtual machine can see my Braille display (Tieman Voyager). What I'd like to do would be to get brlTTY working in the graphical GNome session and terminal, which is something that my native Windows screen reader can neither speak nor braille, of course. I've already got Gnopernicus speaking but it says it cannot find the braillle display. So that's my setup. It is pretty complex, actually. -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/ Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hi, > Veli-Pekka Tätilä, le Wed 04 Oct 2006 09:20:12 +0300, a écrit : >> I'm trying to set up both brlTTY and the gnome-orca package and am >> running into a similar problem. I've written the BrlTTY config for >> my Voyager display. When running brlTTY, however, it brailles that >> it cannot find a text screen at all. I'm using a serial console >> connected to a Windows terminal emulator on the same machine. In >> that emu, WIndows speech and Braille work well enough. HOwever, I'd >> still like to use brlTTY in GNome apps like Orca, Gnopernicus or the >> terminal without having to give up my serial console. Any tips as to >> what i need to do? > I don't really understand how your system is set up: it looks like > your machine runs Linux, and then run Windows within Linux, via some > emulator ; is it vmware, qemu? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
possible bug with open office
Hi I noticed twice when I ran the spell checker in open office it started the document recovery. Is this a known problem. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: BrlTTY / orca
Hi, Veli-Pekka Tätilä, le Wed 04 Oct 2006 09:20:12 +0300, a écrit : > I'm trying to set up both brlTTY and the gnome-orca package and am running > into a similar problem. I've written the BrlTTY config for my Voyager > display. When running brlTTY, however, it brailles that it cannot find a > text screen at all. I'm using a serial console connected to a Windows > terminal emulator on the same machine. In that emu, WIndows speech and > Braille work well enough. HOwever, I'd still like to use brlTTY in GNome > apps like Orca, Gnopernicus or the terminal without having to give up my > serial console. Any tips as to what i need to do? I don't really understand how your system is set up: it looks like your machine runs Linux, and then run Windows within Linux, via some emulator ; is it vmware, qemu? Samuel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu Edgy: Orca-Magnifier does not follow scrolling in Firefox
Robert Cole wrote: > Hello. > > I apologize if this is a previously stated issue. > > I am not sure if this is a bug in Orca-Magnifier or Firefox 2.0Beta 2 > Accessibility (which I believe is the default browser in Edgy). > Basically, when scrolling on a Web page, the magnifier component of > Orca does not show the new contents of the browser window until the > mouse pointer is moved ( i.e. it does not actively show scrolling). I > am unsure of which magnifier (gnome-mag or some other magnifier) is > used with Orca, but gnome-mag/Gnopernicus did not have this problem > when I tested it. Other than that, the magnifier itself works very > well (after changing its default position to a top-horizontal split) I was going to say that this is probably a Firefox issue, but I'm intigued you say that it worked with gnopernicus. They both use gnome-mag. Was this with the same version of Firefox. I'm copying the orca list in case this is a regression in magnifier support (may be a regression in Firefox?) Henrik -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 59531] Re: Add a 'Quit Orca' button
I have some minor UI nits with their solution, but the main thing is that they have added a quit button. I'm happy to sync with them and propose further changes directly to upstream later. -- Add a 'Quit Orca' button https://launchpad.net/bugs/59531 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 59531] Re: Add a 'Quit Orca' button
Need to check for Ubuntu release. ** Changed in: gnome-orca (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: None => ubuntu-6.10 -- Add a 'Quit Orca' button https://launchpad.net/bugs/59531 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 59531] Re: Add a 'Quit Orca' button
Hum, I just checked the Upstream bug and the patches (that were accepted in CVS for 2.17.x - YAY) differ from the ones used in here. Any reason why we shouldn't sync with Upstream? -- Add a 'Quit Orca' button https://launchpad.net/bugs/59531 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Update: Re: Ubuntu Edgy: Orca-Magnifier does not follow scrolling in Firefox
Hello again.I reinstalled Gnopernicus to see if there was a difference in the magnifier's ability to show active scrolling in the Firefox browser window. The settings for the magnifier were what I had set for it in Orca, and it does show active scrolling in Gnoernicus. I don't know if this is the case, but while running with Orca it looks as if the magnifier is not caching as it does with Gnopernicus.I sincerely apologize if this was an already-known issue.Take care. I'll keep working with it tomorrow and see fi I can figure anything out.On 10/4/06, Robert Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Hello.I apologize if this is a previously stated issue. I am not sure if this is a bug in Orca-Magnifier or Firefox 2.0Beta 2 Accessibility (which I believe is the default browser in Edgy). Basically, when scrolling on a Web page, the magnifier component of Orca does not show the new contents of the browser window until the mouse pointer is moved ( i.e. it does not actively show scrolling). I am unsure of which magnifier (gnome-mag or some other magnifier) is used with Orca, but gnome-mag/Gnopernicus did not have this problem when I tested it. Other than that, the magnifier itself works very well (after changing its default position to a top-horizontal split) Thanks for any help on figuring out where this problem stems from.I'll keep on testing and enjoying Edgy!Take care. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
