Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-07 Thread Glenn / Lenny
Now that you mention that,
I wonder if I could have gone to a terminal and did:
sudo apt-get update
and fixed the problem.
I could have done that much without speech.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed.
If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if
you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just
installed.  On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system
until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been
solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user
who did the update and has orca working.

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19
> From: Glenn / Lenny 
> To: Jude DaShiell , 
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
>
> yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech.
> If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next.
> Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this?
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jude DaShiell" 
> To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;
> 
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
>
>
> I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool
> To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package
> manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of
> all other versions.  Then you'd select the version and select whether to
> ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future.  Many times a
> whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to
> break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list
> with respect to pulseaudio.  How all of this is done with apt-get or
> aptitude I never did learn.
>
> From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug  4 21:04:12 2016
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05
> From: tim 
> To: Jude DaShiell 
> Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
> Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?
>
> I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio,
> pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and
> pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed
> .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound!
> thanks all this was really worrying me!
>
>
>
> On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then
>> downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading
>> libpulse.  Hope this helps.  Oh, I forgot if you have
>> speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and
>> see if you get any sound that way.
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58
>>> From: tim 
>>> To: Jude DaShiell 
>>> Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?
>>>
>>> Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade
>>> pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio
>>> (9.0-1 => 8.0-2)
>>> resolving dependencies...
>>> warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio"
>>> :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable
>>> dependencies:
>>>  pulseaudio
>>>
>>> :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n
>>> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
>>> it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer
>>> a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at
>>> 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there.  I hope I don't have to
>>> reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling.
>>>
>>> On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>>> First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio.  Probably pamixer
>>>> will
>>>> give you better results.  Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio
>>>> so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all
>>>> optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to
>>>> play.  Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and
>>>> after lightdm is run for mate or gnome.  My speech-dispatcher-git
>>>> package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a

Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed. 
If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if 
you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just 
installed.  On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system 
until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been 
solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user 
who did the update and has orca working.


On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak

yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech.
If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next.
Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this?
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool
To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package
manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of
all other versions.  Then you'd select the version and select whether to
ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future.  Many times a
whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to
break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list
with respect to pulseaudio.  How all of this is done with apt-get or
aptitude I never did learn.

From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug  4 21:04:12 2016
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05
From: tim 
To: Jude DaShiell 
Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?

I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio,
pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and
pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed
.config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound!
thanks all this was really worrying me!



On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then
downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading
libpulse.  Hope this helps.  Oh, I forgot if you have
speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and
see if you get any sound that way.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58
From: tim 
To: Jude DaShiell 
Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?

Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade
pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio
(9.0-1 => 8.0-2)
resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio"
:: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable
dependencies:
 pulseaudio

:: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer
a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at
0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there.  I hope I don't have to
reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling.

On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio.  Probably pamixer
will
give you better results.  Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio
so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all
optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to
play.  Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and
after lightdm is run for mate or gnome.  My speech-dispatcher-git
package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a
speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable
speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every
time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed.  So no speech
before or after login.  Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav
is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q
./login.wav since I moved that to my home directory and it's in my
.bashrc file since I wanted to hear if I got any successful login on
lightdm and haven't heard login.wav play since these last updates.  I
wish I had better news, but that's where things appear to be now.  Oh,
if speech can't get enabled on the talkingarch system and you want to
recover disk space a command like:
sudo -H pacman -Rcsn xorg
should clear the whole graphical user interface and all configurations
from your system.  It doesn't wipe configurations below your home
directory though.  The warning about this is, if you use vlc or mplayer
or emacs you'll need to reinstall those to get your s

Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
the update command only updates your local version of the packages 
database, you would next have to have done apt-get upgrade and hope the 
upgrade didn't break anything. On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:



Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:48:03
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak

Now that you mention that,
I wonder if I could have gone to a terminal and did:
sudo apt-get update
and fixed the problem.
I could have done that much without speech.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed.
If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if
you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just
installed.  On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system
until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been
solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user
who did the update and has orca working.

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell ,
ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak

yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech.
If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next.
Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this?
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool
To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package
manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of
all other versions.  Then you'd select the version and select whether to
ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future.  Many times a
whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to
break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list
with respect to pulseaudio.  How all of this is done with apt-get or
aptitude I never did learn.

From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug  4 21:04:12 2016
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05
From: tim 
To: Jude DaShiell 
Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?

I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio,
pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and
pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed
.config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound!
thanks all this was really worrying me!



On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then
downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading
libpulse.  Hope this helps.  Oh, I forgot if you have
speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and
see if you get any sound that way.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58
From: tim 
To: Jude DaShiell 
Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?

Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade
pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio
(9.0-1 => 8.0-2)
resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio"
:: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable
dependencies:
 pulseaudio

:: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer
a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at
0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there.  I hope I don't have to
reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling.

On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio.  Probably pamixer
will
give you better results.  Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio
so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all
optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to
play.  Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and
after lightdm is run for mate or gnome.  My speech-dispatcher-git
package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a
speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable
speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every
time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed.  So no speech
before or after login.  Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav
is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q

Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
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Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-07 Thread Glenn / Lenny
yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech.
If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next.
Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this?
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool
To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package
manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of
all other versions.  Then you'd select the version and select whether to
ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future.  Many times a
whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to
break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list
with respect to pulseaudio.  How all of this is done with apt-get or
aptitude I never did learn.

>From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug  4 21:04:12 2016
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05
From: tim 
To: Jude DaShiell 
Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?

I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio,
pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and
pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed
.config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound!
thanks all this was really worrying me!



On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then
> downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading
> libpulse.  Hope this helps.  Oh, I forgot if you have
> speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and
> see if you get any sound that way.
>
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58
>> From: tim 
>> To: Jude DaShiell 
>> Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com
>> Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update?
>>
>> Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade
>> pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio
>> (9.0-1 => 8.0-2)
>> resolving dependencies...
>> warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio"
>> :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable
>> dependencies:
>>  pulseaudio
>>
>> :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n
>> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
>> it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer
>> a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at
>> 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there.  I hope I don't have to
>> reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling.
>>
>> On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio.  Probably pamixer
>>> will
>>> give you better results.  Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio
>>> so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all
>>> optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to
>>> play.  Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and
>>> after lightdm is run for mate or gnome.  My speech-dispatcher-git
>>> package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a
>>> speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable
>>> speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every
>>> time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed.  So no speech
>>> before or after login.  Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav
>>> is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q
>>> ./login.wav since I moved that to my home directory and it's in my
>>> .bashrc file since I wanted to hear if I got any successful login on
>>> lightdm and haven't heard login.wav play since these last updates.  I
>>> wish I had better news, but that's where things appear to be now.  Oh,
>>> if speech can't get enabled on the talkingarch system and you want to
>>> recover disk space a command like:
>>> sudo -H pacman -Rcsn xorg
>>> should clear the whole graphical user interface and all configurations
>>> from your system.  It doesn't wipe configurations below your home
>>> directory though.  The warning about this is, if you use vlc or mplayer
>>> or emacs you'll need to reinstall those to get your system back to
>>> normal unless maybe the ignore list can be used temporarily.
>>>
>>> 

Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-06 Thread Milton

Hi,

In Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit I assist a sighted person with using Ubuntu. 
After I did Alt+F2 and typed 'orca' Orca starts but after 10 or 20 
seconds Orca quits. with the help of the sighted person I ceck the 
screen reader in System settings > Universal access and Orca was working 
well.

Maybe this can help?
Milton

Op 06-08-16 om 06:43 schreef Rob Whyte:

Why not rm -rf ~/.local/share/orca and try again before messing with Pulse.

Pulse is designed to just work and it sounds like it is doing just that.

You could rm -rf ~/.pulse as well if you wanted.

Are you starting speech in consoles before any of this takes place
subsequently?


Rob



On 06/08/16 12:41, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Hi Jude,
Interesting...
How might I do this at a CLI with no speech?
If the commands are not too lengthy, I might succeed.
Glenn
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From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


Very probably a pulseaudio problem.  Another list I read had a person
downgrade pulseaudio and all associated utilities and that's how he got
orca working again.  That was on the sonargnulinux e-mail list too.

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:33:51
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Orca does not speak

Hi,
I am using Ubuntu 16.04 64 on an Intel NUC PPYH with 8GB of RAM.
I have run Ubuntu on this 15.1064 bit  already, so this should work.
I ran Orca on start up, and set up the voice like I usually do, but on
okaying it, Orca shuts down, it says:
screenreader off
So I log out, and get the bongo sound, and bring up Orca in the log in
window, and Orca stays on.
This is a live version on an SD card with a persistent file.
I have noticed, that when I log out, before the bongo sound, Orca says:
screenreader off
Then Orca comes on again for the log in window, and stays on.
When I log back in, there is no speech.
But that would indicate that Orca is working, but silent.
Is there a way I can make Orca louder?
If I do:
control + alt + T
and then type:
sudo speaker-test -c 2
I get the speaker test
and I end it with control + C
So I know that my system is not muted and the volume is okay when I log
in.
I wonder if there is a problem with eSpeak?
One difference I did between the speech settings in the log in window, and
when I was in the desktop, was that I selected U.S. English in the synth
list, instead of the standard English, which I left alone for the log-in
window.
Could this be a problem for eSpeak?
If I need to change that back, can someone send me the number of tabs to
get to the voice selection list?
Or is there a command to setting Orca to its defaults?

I sent this problem to the Orca list, but have heard nothing there.

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Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-05 Thread Rob Whyte
Why not rm -rf ~/.local/share/orca and try again before messing with Pulse.

Pulse is designed to just work and it sounds like it is doing just that.

You could rm -rf ~/.pulse as well if you wanted.

Are you starting speech in consoles before any of this takes place
subsequently?


Rob



On 06/08/16 12:41, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> Hi Jude,
> Interesting...
> How might I do this at a CLI with no speech?
> If the commands are not too lengthy, I might succeed.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jude DaShiell" 
> To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 
> 
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
>
>
> Very probably a pulseaudio problem.  Another list I read had a person
> downgrade pulseaudio and all associated utilities and that's how he got
> orca working again.  That was on the sonargnulinux e-mail list too.
>
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:33:51
>> From: Glenn / Lenny 
>> To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Orca does not speak
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am using Ubuntu 16.04 64 on an Intel NUC PPYH with 8GB of RAM.
>> I have run Ubuntu on this 15.1064 bit  already, so this should work.
>> I ran Orca on start up, and set up the voice like I usually do, but on 
>> okaying it, Orca shuts down, it says:
>> screenreader off
>> So I log out, and get the bongo sound, and bring up Orca in the log in 
>> window, and Orca stays on.
>> This is a live version on an SD card with a persistent file.
>> I have noticed, that when I log out, before the bongo sound, Orca says:
>> screenreader off
>> Then Orca comes on again for the log in window, and stays on.
>> When I log back in, there is no speech.
>> But that would indicate that Orca is working, but silent.
>> Is there a way I can make Orca louder?
>> If I do:
>> control + alt + T
>> and then type:
>> sudo speaker-test -c 2
>> I get the speaker test
>> and I end it with control + C
>> So I know that my system is not muted and the volume is okay when I log 
>> in.
>> I wonder if there is a problem with eSpeak?
>> One difference I did between the speech settings in the log in window, and 
>> when I was in the desktop, was that I selected U.S. English in the synth 
>> list, instead of the standard English, which I left alone for the log-in 
>> window.
>> Could this be a problem for eSpeak?
>> If I need to change that back, can someone send me the number of tabs to 
>> get to the voice selection list?
>> Or is there a command to setting Orca to its defaults?
>>
>> I sent this problem to the Orca list, but have heard nothing there.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>


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Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-05 Thread Glenn / Lenny
Hi Jude,
Interesting...
How might I do this at a CLI with no speech?
If the commands are not too lengthy, I might succeed.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Orca does not speak


Very probably a pulseaudio problem.  Another list I read had a person
downgrade pulseaudio and all associated utilities and that's how he got
orca working again.  That was on the sonargnulinux e-mail list too.

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:33:51
> From: Glenn / Lenny 
> To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Orca does not speak
>
> Hi,
> I am using Ubuntu 16.04 64 on an Intel NUC PPYH with 8GB of RAM.
> I have run Ubuntu on this 15.1064 bit  already, so this should work.
> I ran Orca on start up, and set up the voice like I usually do, but on 
> okaying it, Orca shuts down, it says:
> screenreader off
> So I log out, and get the bongo sound, and bring up Orca in the log in 
> window, and Orca stays on.
> This is a live version on an SD card with a persistent file.
> I have noticed, that when I log out, before the bongo sound, Orca says:
> screenreader off
> Then Orca comes on again for the log in window, and stays on.
> When I log back in, there is no speech.
> But that would indicate that Orca is working, but silent.
> Is there a way I can make Orca louder?
> If I do:
> control + alt + T
> and then type:
> sudo speaker-test -c 2
> I get the speaker test
> and I end it with control + C
> So I know that my system is not muted and the volume is okay when I log 
> in.
> I wonder if there is a problem with eSpeak?
> One difference I did between the speech settings in the log in window, and 
> when I was in the desktop, was that I selected U.S. English in the synth 
> list, instead of the standard English, which I left alone for the log-in 
> window.
> Could this be a problem for eSpeak?
> If I need to change that back, can someone send me the number of tabs to 
> get to the voice selection list?
> Or is there a command to setting Orca to its defaults?
>
> I sent this problem to the Orca list, but have heard nothing there.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>

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Re: Orca does not speak

2016-08-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
Very probably a pulseaudio problem.  Another list I read had a person 
downgrade pulseaudio and all associated utilities and that's how he got 
orca working again.  That was on the sonargnulinux e-mail list too.


On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:33:51
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Orca does not speak

Hi,
I am using Ubuntu 16.04 64 on an Intel NUC PPYH with 8GB of RAM.
I have run Ubuntu on this 15.1064 bit  already, so this should work.
I ran Orca on start up, and set up the voice like I usually do, but on okaying 
it, Orca shuts down, it says:
screenreader off
So I log out, and get the bongo sound, and bring up Orca in the log in window, 
and Orca stays on.
This is a live version on an SD card with a persistent file.
I have noticed, that when I log out, before the bongo sound, Orca says:
screenreader off
Then Orca comes on again for the log in window, and stays on.
When I log back in, there is no speech.
But that would indicate that Orca is working, but silent.
Is there a way I can make Orca louder?
If I do:
control + alt + T
and then type:
sudo speaker-test -c 2
I get the speaker test
and I end it with control + C
So I know that my system is not muted and the volume is okay when I log in.
I wonder if there is a problem with eSpeak?
One difference I did between the speech settings in the log in window, and when 
I was in the desktop, was that I selected U.S. English in the synth list, 
instead of the standard English, which I left alone for the log-in window.
Could this be a problem for eSpeak?
If I need to change that back, can someone send me the number of tabs to get to 
the voice selection list?
Or is there a command to setting Orca to its defaults?

I sent this problem to the Orca list, but have heard nothing there.

Thanks for any help.



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Orca does not speak

2016-08-05 Thread Glenn / Lenny
Hi,
I am using Ubuntu 16.04 64 on an Intel NUC PPYH with 8GB of RAM.
I have run Ubuntu on this 15.1064 bit  already, so this should work.
I ran Orca on start up, and set up the voice like I usually do, but on okaying 
it, Orca shuts down, it says:
screenreader off
So I log out, and get the bongo sound, and bring up Orca in the log in window, 
and Orca stays on.
This is a live version on an SD card with a persistent file.
I have noticed, that when I log out, before the bongo sound, Orca says:
screenreader off
Then Orca comes on again for the log in window, and stays on.
When I log back in, there is no speech.
But that would indicate that Orca is working, but silent.
Is there a way I can make Orca louder?
If I do:
control + alt + T
and then type:
sudo speaker-test -c 2
I get the speaker test
and I end it with control + C
So I know that my system is not muted and the volume is okay when I log in.
I wonder if there is a problem with eSpeak?
One difference I did between the speech settings in the log in window, and when 
I was in the desktop, was that I selected U.S. English in the synth list, 
instead of the standard English, which I left alone for the log-in window.
Could this be a problem for eSpeak?
If I need to change that back, can someone send me the number of tabs to get to 
the voice selection list?
Or is there a command to setting Orca to its defaults?

I sent this problem to the Orca list, but have heard nothing there.

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Re: hardi beta problem, orca does not speak for installation.

2008-03-25 Thread krishnakant Mane
hello Mr. mohomad.
thanks for the information.
well, it means it is  a known bug.
it seams to me that this is some thing to do with orca not properly
set to default parameters.
because it is only when we say orca --no-setup that it gives a problem.
any ways do let me know when the bug is fixt.
I hope beta2 or some thing might fix it.
Kk
On 25/03/2008, Mohammed Al-shar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi Krishnakant.
>
> I assume you are talking about hardy. if so, the installer is being worked
> on. we will be notified when this bug is solved so that we can test.
>
> All the best,
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> - Original Message -
> From: "krishnakant Mane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "ubuntu" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:57 AM
> Subject: hardi beta problem, orca does not speak for installation.
>
>
> > hello all.
> > has any one got this problem.
> > I am running orca --no-setup in root (sudo su) and in another terminal
> > with sudo su (or giving & ) after orca--no-setup I give the command
> > ubiquity.
> > but I don't get any speech output.
> > what is going wrong or is it a known bug?
> > I posted on this issue before but there was no response.
> > regars.
> > Krishnakant.
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Re: hardi beta problem, orca does not speak for installation.

2008-03-25 Thread Mohammed Al-shar'
hi Krishnakant.

I assume you are talking about hardy. if so, the installer is being worked 
on. we will be notified when this bug is solved so that we can test.

All the best,
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Cc: "ubuntu" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: hardi beta problem, orca does not speak for installation.


> hello all.
> has any one got this problem.
> I am running orca --no-setup in root (sudo su) and in another terminal
> with sudo su (or giving & ) after orca--no-setup I give the command
> ubiquity.
> but I don't get any speech output.
> what is going wrong or is it a known bug?
> I posted on this issue before but there was no response.
> regars.
> Krishnakant.
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hardi beta problem, orca does not speak for installation.

2008-03-25 Thread krishnakant Mane
hello all.
has any one got this problem.
I am running orca --no-setup in root (sudo su) and in another terminal
with sudo su (or giving & ) after orca--no-setup I give the command
ubiquity.
but I don't get any speech output.
what is going wrong or is it a known bug?
I posted on this issue before but there was no response.
regars.
Krishnakant.

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Orca does not speak on latest Ubuntu Live CD

2007-07-04 Thread Fernando H. F. Botelho
Hi everyone,

Would it be best to download an earlier version of the Ubuntu Live CD to try
Orca while the latest one is being fixed?

I ask because it is not clear to me if Orca fails to work only in the Live
CD or also when this CD is installed to disk.  I just want to avoid
installing the most recent version if this will make it more difficult to
try out Orca.

Thanks,

Fernando


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