Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Andreas Berger]

Thorsten Wilms schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
> Porta.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
>
> After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
> there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
> open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.
>
>
> I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
> the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.
>
>
> Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
> impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
> for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.
>
> The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
> heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.
>
> The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
> plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
> lack of a shadow beneath it.
>
> The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
> would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.
>
> I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
> everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
> We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.
>
> Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
> few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)
>
>
user-trash2, totally agree on that, looks awesome! no more cheap gloss. 
(the analogy between the recycling logo and ubuntu logo is striking :-)

i have a question on the dictionary icon: why is it presented from such 
a sideways angle, unlike the trash? i think you should keep consistent 
here, and the frontal view of the trash is just perfect. (i know that 
osx abandoned their pseudo-3d-angle icons because of cover-flow, and we 
never know what may be coming next in ubuntu, just think of the desktop 
cube...)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe user-trash

[Jake Tolbert]

nice work.  I particularly like the blue one, although I'm not sure how
that'll fit w/ the Breathe pallette.

jake



On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, spg76 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I made some changes based on Thorsten and Cory's suggestions and I updated
> the wiki.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> Also I made the icon on different colors to give an idea of a different
> look.
> Please take a look and tell me what you think.
> Thanks.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

[Rico Sta. Cruz]

New release: Dust 0.2!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme

As for the round WM buttons, consider them as placeholders as I was too lazy
to port the Dust WM buttons onto the light one. :b

(kwwii: I think I'm too late here, but if this new releases could be pushed
for the community-themes that'd be awesome.)


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
> 
>> 1) Light toolbars
>> http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
> 
> That's interesting. Although, conceptually, the menu-bar is much closer
> to the tool-bar than to the title-bar.
> 
> 
>> 2) Light version.
>> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
> 
> Promising. Round wm-buttons move it towards Apple, though, I'd say, as
> much as I dislike worrying about that :)
> 
> 
>> 3) New scrollbars!
>>http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
> 
> The shading of the trough looks a bit like an overdose of ambient
> occlusion. I think you would do better with thinner shadows on the
> sides. The idea of letting the bar run out on the ends is an interesting
> touch. The slider looks like it is offset to the left from the middle.
> 
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[ubuntu-art] Breathe user-trash

[spg76]

I made some changes based on Thorsten and Cory's suggestions and I updated
the wiki.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
Also I made the icon on different colors to give an idea of a different
look.
Please take a look and tell me what you think.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Danny King]

Here is my suggestion for the generic paper icon

Some notes first:

* I have only done the 256px size so far. Smaller sizes would have
/much/ less detail (the left side would be simplified if included at
all, the shadows would be darkened perhaps)
* I have included a textured and a non-textured version. The texture
was from Inkscape's built in patterns and is a bitmap so not
desirable. I tried to trace another texture bitmap but it got far too
complex and Inkscape crashed.
* I'm not 100% sure about my shadows.
* I won't attach the SVG yet as I've only done the 256px size and I've
messed around with the layers - I need clean it up.
* I welcome critiques and won't be offended if you don't think it fits
in with Breathe!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2900480718_9c2f07dbb8_o_d.png

I've also put it on the Discussion page of the Wiki.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyu-do-: Audience and Message (st ay on-topic)

[Cory K.]

Joshua Booth wrote:
> How is a movie application off-topic from application support? It it's
> part of Kyodo, then shouldn't we discuss it?

Please do not top-post. Search the archive and web if you don't know
what I'm talking about.

It's outside the scope of Kyu-do-. I separated it off to another thread
and someone replied to the original thread again. Even my separated
thread is offtopic for this list as we're about look&feel. Not what apps
are in Ubuntu.

This is not something I will endlessly go over. It's the way it is.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyu-do-: Audience and Message (stay on-topic)

[Joshua Booth]

How is a movie application off-topic from application support? It it's part
of Kyodo, then shouldn't we discuss it?

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will moderate anyone that replies off-topic to this thread again.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

[Joshua Booth]

I know it's only for KDE - I said so...

Thanks, I'll try pitivi.

2008/9/27 Michael Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>
> 2008/9/27 Joshua Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>  There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be
>> professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface
>> of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that
>> seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a
>> timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline?
>>
>> The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for
>> KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an
>> update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008.
>>
>> The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost
>> through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the
>> functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino.
>>
>
> FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Have you tried Pitivi? It has a
> good time line, a very intuitive interface.
> It is lacking in features, but what it does do it does right. There is no
> need for a *new* movie editor, because
> when Pitivi gets there it will what most people want from a video editor.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Danny King]

> Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
> color options should be explored.

Actually I think more /material/ options should be explored. If this
is a realistic theme we should be thinking about what type of plastic,
wood, metal or whatever it is, rather than what colour it is - right?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Joshua Booth]

2nd one indeed. The first is just TOO much Ubuntu, and I don't even like the
design at all.

We could make it look like a normal trashcan, without the symbol, just a
black kind of cross-hatch design. But hey, whatever works, right?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> spg76 wrote:
> > 2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>  >
> > Hi!
> >
> > We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
> > Porta.
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> >
> > After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
> > there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
> > open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.
> >
> >
> >
> > I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
> > the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.
> >
> >
> > Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
> > impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
> > for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.
> >
> > The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the
> > arrow
> > heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.
> >
> > The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
> > plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just
> the
> > lack of a shadow beneath it.
> >
> > The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the
> > base
> > would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.
> >
> > I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
> > everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
> > We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.
> >
> > Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With
> a
> > few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)
> >
> >
> > I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of
> > your suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce
> > it here for discussion.
>
> Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
> color options should be explored.
>
> -Cory K.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Cory K.]

spg76 wrote:
> 2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>
> Hi!
>
> We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
> Porta.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
>
> After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
> there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
> open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.
>
>
>
> I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
> the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.
>
>
> Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
> impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
> for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.
>
> The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the
> arrow
> heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.
>
> The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
> plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
> lack of a shadow beneath it.
>
> The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the
> base
> would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.
>
> I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
> everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
> We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.
>
> Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
> few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)
>
>
> I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of
> your suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce
> it here for discussion.

Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
color options should be explored.

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[ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[José Luis]

I think a good place to look for icons is  Anton's icon bzr:
bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-new-wave/anton/devel.icons

This is a working theme, altought its not 100% finished.

 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[spg76]

2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi!
>
> We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
> Porta.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
>
> After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
> there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
> open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.
>

>
> I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
> the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.
>
>
> Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
> impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
> for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.
>
> The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
> heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.
>
> The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
> plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
> lack of a shadow beneath it.
>
> The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
> would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.
>
> I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
> everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
> We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.
>
> Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
> few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)
>
>
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I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of your
suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce it here for
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[ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Thorsten Wilms]

Hi!

We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
Porta.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.


I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.


Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.

The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.

The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
lack of a shadow beneath it.

The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.

I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.

Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:

> 1) Light toolbars
> http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png

That's interesting. Although, conceptually, the menu-bar is much closer
to the tool-bar than to the title-bar.


> 2) Light version.
> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png

Promising. Round wm-buttons move it towards Apple, though, I'd say, as
much as I dislike worrying about that :)


> 3) New scrollbars!
>http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png

The shading of the trough looks a bit like an overdose of ambient
occlusion. I think you would do better with thinner shadows on the
sides. The idea of letting the bar run out on the ends is an interesting
touch. The slider looks like it is offset to the left from the middle.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

[Giuseppe Pennisi]

Il giorno lun, 29/09/2008 alle 09.09 +0200, Jesper Lundgren ha scritto:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased
> developments on this
> theme.
> 
> 1) Light toolbars
> The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark,
> menu-integrated
> toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type
> applications where
> the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content
> (i.e.: Firefox,
> Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...)
> 
>http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
> 
> Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause
> problems on
> certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types
> of
> applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you
> look at OSX,
> there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed
> metal) from the
> rest, but the interface still manages to be solid.
> 
> 2) Light version.
> Just tryin' it out. Here's "Sand":
> 
>http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
> 
> 3) New scrollbars!
> Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear
> with me as
> scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they
> will look good
> everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are:
> there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed
> metal) from the
> 
> 
> http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
> 
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> 
> This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but
> still being coherent is great for people that uses laptops and
> have to turn down the brithness. Dark themes can be a bit
> dificult to have then. I do think though that the last
> scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones
> on your new screenshots.
> 
> //Jesper 
> 
> 
I agree, expecially for light theme...I have already tell about it in
Naxos thread. Only a consideration about light theme, why not use the
same metacity buttons of dark theme?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

[Jesper Lundgren]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this
> theme.
>
> 1) Light toolbars
> The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated
> toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where
> the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox,
> Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...)
>
>http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
>
> Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on
> certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of
> applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX,
> there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the
> rest, but the interface still manages to be solid.
>
> 2) Light version.
> Just tryin' it out. Here's "Sand":
>
>http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
>
> 3) New scrollbars!
> Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as
> scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good
> everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are:
> there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the
>
>   http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
>
>
> Comments welcome.
>
>
> This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but still being
> coherent is great for people that uses laptops and have to turn down the
> brithness. Dark themes can be a bit dificult to have then. I do think though
> that the last scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones
> on your new screenshots.


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