Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Alin-Andrei]

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 21:45, Chris Tooley  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Alin-Andrei 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 21:34, Chris Tooley  wrote:
> >> I don't think the theme is going to directly affect other themes. As
> >> far as I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong), the button layout is
> >> an option you can set with gnome config.  I certainly know it's an
> >> option for emerald anyway.
> >
> >
> > A very common scenario: A n00b (and not only!) searches for themes in the
> > Software Center, installs the package with Dust and New Wave and tries
> them
> > out: everything will be very messy. You just can do thing like this in a
> > default installation...
>
> Doesn't a theme have the ability to define where the window controls
> are located in relation to the title, etc?
>
> -Chris
>
>

I guess the themes can modify the gconf entries - those installed by .deb
files only (so those from the Ubuntu repos)! But all the themes would have
to be updated.

The rest of the themes... oh well, there will have to be different versions
for Ubuntu users or something.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Alin-Andrei]

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 21:34, Chris Tooley  wrote:
> I don't think the theme is going to directly affect other themes. As
> far as I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong), the button layout is
> an option you can set with gnome config.  I certainly know it's an
> option for emerald anyway.


A very common scenario: A n00b (and not only!) searches for themes in the
Software Center, installs the package with Dust and New Wave and tries them
out: everything will be very messy. You just can do thing like this in a
default installation...
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Alin-Andrei]

> Not only are the buttons on the left, but they're not even correct for
> "buttons on the left"!

> What OS X has:close, minimize, maximize : menu
> What we have: maximize, minimize, close : menu
> What Windows has: menu : minimize, maximize, close
>
> As it is right now, the theme will break muscle memory for everyone
> coming from Windows, OS X, and even all other Linux distros (including
> previous versions of Ubuntu)!
>
> also a few other notes:
> * the Plymouth progress bar seems to go from 0% to 100% over and over,
> instead of actually "throbbing"; this is misleading and confusing.
> * the "superscript" logo makes the name look like ubuntu® (with the logo
> as the registered-trademark symbol).

Correction. We have: maximize, minimize, close :

The menu is missing from the new themes!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Alin-Andrei]

It's because the buttons will be on the left, not right side afterall:
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/almost-official-ubuntu-1004-lucid-will.html

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 16:21, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> Yeah doesn't this force user to relearn behavior, for no obvious benefit?
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Mark Curtis  wrote:
>
>>  Just curious, what is the thought behind the change?
>> As in, why is it deemed better to change the order?
>>
>> > From: kw...@ubuntu.com
>> > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:17:05 +
>> > CC: bae...@gmail.com
>> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed
>>
>> >
>> > On Friday 05 March 2010 01:43:43 am John Baer wrote:
>> > > I noticed in today's upgrade (03/04) the order of the metacity's
>> > > "minimize" and "maximized" buttons changed.
>> > >
>> > > In the old metacity the order was; minimize, maximize, close
>> > >
>> > > In the new metacity the order is: maximize, minimize, close
>> > >
>> > > Is this the desired effect or is this a bug?
>> >
>> > This is the desired effect.
>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave question

[Alin-Andrei]

>> Hi,
>>
>> What do you think of the background of the window on the screenshot?
>> (it's a bit like sprayed):
>>
>> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1946/31718430.png
>>
>>
>> Would you like such a thing as default?
>>
>> 
>> Anton Kerezov
>> http://ankere.wordpress.com/
>>
>>

>Looks good, Anton.  I like the texture, subtle but different.  Nice
>work.



I for one don't like textures in my theme. Especially in New Wave which is a
polished theme and the texture is rough and seems from a different scenario
:) Just my opinion...
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