Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
I agree whole-heartedly, we need more complete themes than we have. We have a lose collection of both GTK engines and window borders, with only one complete set. If I knew how to make gtk themes, i would have one sent out already. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Álvaro Medina Ballester < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Fire/Water/Air/Earth remembers me the last Thrice album, The Alchemy > Index. Anyway, I thing that this is a great idea. Instead of shipping 6 or 7 > themes, we can ship 4 complete themes inspired on that elements. And it > stills follow the Ubuntu philosophy. > > 2008/4/26, fruchtschwert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I also like the idea of Fire, Water, Air and Earth .. >> And there's no doubt a new fresh style has to be created. >> >> By accident I found this wallpaper on the net: >> >> http://img.socwall.com/Abstract/General/200703080925-3379.jpg >> >> Thought the style is something I would like to see for Itrepid Ibex too. >> And the rest of this guy's work is also quite impressive. >> >> http://petercui.deviantart.com/ >> >> Maybe he can be contacted or my proposal serves as inspiration for other >> creative minds round here. >> >> >> >> __ >> Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. >> Mehr Möglichkeiten, in Kontakt zu bleiben. >> http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-art mailing list >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >> > > > > -- > Álvaro. > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
The Fire/Water/Air/Earth remembers me the last Thrice album, The Alchemy Index. Anyway, I thing that this is a great idea. Instead of shipping 6 or 7 themes, we can ship 4 complete themes inspired on that elements. And it stills follow the Ubuntu philosophy. 2008/4/26, fruchtschwert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I also like the idea of Fire, Water, Air and Earth .. > And there's no doubt a new fresh style has to be created. > > By accident I found this wallpaper on the net: > > http://img.socwall.com/Abstract/General/200703080925-3379.jpg > > Thought the style is something I would like to see for Itrepid Ibex too. > And the rest of this guy's work is also quite impressive. > > http://petercui.deviantart.com/ > > Maybe he can be contacted or my proposal serves as inspiration for other > creative minds round here. > > > > __ > Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. > Mehr Möglichkeiten, in Kontakt zu bleiben. > http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- Álvaro. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
I also like the idea of Fire, Water, Air and Earth .. And there's no doubt a new fresh style has to be created. By accident I found this wallpaper on the net: http://img.socwall.com/Abstract/General/200703080925-3379.jpg Thought the style is something I would like to see for Itrepid Ibex too. And the rest of this guy's work is also quite impressive. http://petercui.deviantart.com/ Maybe he can be contacted or my proposal serves as inspiration for other creative minds round here. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Mehr Möglichkeiten, in Kontakt zu bleiben. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
Now that I think about it, you are very right that there is a troubling (yes, not just curious, but troubling) conservatism to Ubuntu art. The attitude with Ubuntu/GNOME seems to be: if we change it more than a little bit, certain segments of both new and long-time users will leave Ubuntu in droves. This is nonsense. Windows XP (Luna style was shocking for its time! And it is still garishly blue!), Windows Vista, Mac OS 10, and Mac Leopard all made very dramatic visual departures from their predecessors. Far more dramatic than Human, even. These did not result in a downturn in user base, with the possible exception of Vista (and we all know that in Vista's case it wasn't because of the look!). Lets be bold. Lets be visionary. And in the process, lets build Ubuntu's halo. It really is one of the most effective ways to build attention, and thus users. -Sumit Julian Oliver wrote: > ..on or around Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:14:22PM +0100, Sumit Agarwal said: > >> I think both mock-up links presented (the Windows one and the Ubuntu >> one) are really great examples, though they may be a touch too dark for >> mainstream tastes (maybe I'm wrong. >> > > Human is already too /caramel/ for many tastes.. > > there is a curious conservatism at work i think here in Ubuntu Art. > Human was a risky design idea, that half-worked. the relative success of > this theme leaves Ubuntu Art leaders afraid of taking further design > risks. as a result, the graphical presentation of Ubuntu is stagnating > in its own prior bravery. > > for the next release i think we'd all be wise to not cower away from the > possibility of widespread disappointment at shipping a radically new > theme - just as Human was when it was introduced. surely it cannot be > worse than promising great changes, as we all did, only to default back > to the known (for an LTS release). > > moreso, i think it's safe to generalise that people appreciate attempts > at improvement, being often far more generous in this respect than fear > would advise. > > oh, i like both mockups. > > cheers, > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
That sounds extremely good to me! Let's give that idea a try, I think none of the Ubuntu users will regret it. > > The visual style I have mentioned is called 'Elements' and it has 4 > variations - Fire (the one you can see in the link), Water, Air and > Earth. > > Fire - Orange, the default visual style > Water - Blue > Air - Grey > Earth - Green > > We have Human Looks now. Imagine from Intrepid, we call our theme > "Human Elements". From the different themes I have seen based on > Murrine and Clearlooks, this appears possible. > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
..on or around Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:14:22PM +0100, Sumit Agarwal said: > I think both mock-up links presented (the Windows one and the Ubuntu > one) are really great examples, though they may be a touch too dark for > mainstream tastes (maybe I'm wrong. Human is already too /caramel/ for many tastes.. there is a curious conservatism at work i think here in Ubuntu Art. Human was a risky design idea, that half-worked. the relative success of this theme leaves Ubuntu Art leaders afraid of taking further design risks. as a result, the graphical presentation of Ubuntu is stagnating in its own prior bravery. for the next release i think we'd all be wise to not cower away from the possibility of widespread disappointment at shipping a radically new theme - just as Human was when it was introduced. surely it cannot be worse than promising great changes, as we all did, only to default back to the known (for an LTS release). moreso, i think it's safe to generalise that people appreciate attempts at improvement, being often far more generous in this respect than fear would advise. oh, i like both mockups. cheers, -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
Sorry, I meant 'Each tab and window border has a narrow corresponding-theme-colored strip at the top'. If you look at the Clearlooks Classic engine included in Gutsy, you will know what I mean about the strip at the top of a tab. As soon as you select Clearlooks Classic, you will see that the dialog where you select the GTK gets a blue stripe for the tab selected. In case of Clearlooks modern, it is a strip + some gradient in that tab. The difference is that in this theme, the strip is more like a bell curve. Slightly thicker in the middle and thinning out towards the end. > > > 1. Each tab and window border has a narrow corresponding-theme-colored > stripe in the middle. I feel this gives a very good feel about that theme. > For example, if I put the water theme, I feel compelled to have some sort of > waterfall wallpaper for my desktop. With just a few modifications in each > variation, the theme manages to give a completely different and equally > compelling look to my desktop. > > -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
I think that the first one is awesome. The clear dock at the bottom is a nice touch -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
I think both mock-up links presented (the Windows one and the Ubuntu one) are really great examples, though they may be a touch too dark for mainstream tastes (maybe I'm wrong. Vista's taskbar is very dark and so are a lot of other elements of its UI). I personally think the Windows shot is slightly better for the sole reason that the main engine (dialogue boxes, buttons, menubar, etc) is more color neutral. And, above all else, I REALLY REALLY REALLY think Ubuntu needs a super-simple color changer!!! We should not expect users to be experienced colorists! We also should not expect users to like orange (orange is just about the more unusual PC desktop color theme. Not bad, but highly unusual)! As in Vista we should have a color picker that simply selects a main base color (default orange) with the rest of the color shades generated algorithmically by the back-end. What is great about the Vista color-chooser is that it is simple, intuitive, and does not allow the user to select a shade/hue/saturation that visually 'breaks' the interface or makes it illegible. What is stupid about Vista is that regardless of what main color you choose, there are always hard-coded cyan accents and highlights that are based off of the default color. http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/window-color-and-appearance.jpg As far as choosing colors for icons, I sort of agree and disagree. Firstly, the logistics for that seem tricky. Secondly, I feel like the icons should 1) be photographically full-color, such that there is not apparent color 'scheme' to them, and 2) be recognizable by color independent of the desktop color scheme (i.e. Pidgin is recognized as much by its purple as by its bird; close/exit is conventionally red). Maybe I'm wrong =) this is the kind of good discussion we need around here, and hopefully somebody more skilled than us will be able to code up a solution for 8.10! François Degrave wrote: > Hi, > > I think nobody will blame you for using this screenshot which is, in my > humble opinion, a really good example of how the black/orange theme for > the next cycle should look like. > > It reminds me of this one: > http://mossblaser.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-8-04-GUI-Design-Idea-72574609 > but even better. > > I also take advantage of this mail to repeat my opinion, which is that > such a theme would be particularly nice if the colors of > controls/windows/system icons were parametrisable (see > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-February/005171.html). > > Cheers, > > François > > Bharat Varma wrote : > >> Hi, >> >> I am only an end-user of Ubuntu and I know squat about UI / UI >> guidelines or even how to present what I have in mind using Gimp etc. >> Could never understand how to use Gimp either :) >> >> But I would like to draw attention to a visual style I have >> encountered for Windows. I have used this myself (love it !!!) and I >> believe this visual style is close to what the original hardy >> guidelines suggested >> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign >> >> http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/Elements-VS-82691770 >> >> If there is anyone who can take a look at the visual style above, it >> would be great. >> >> I didn't know if it was okay to put screenshots of a Windows OS in the >> /alternate link on ubuntu site. If it is, I will take permission from >> the author and do that. If it is okay to include those screenshots as >> attachments to this mailing list, I can do that too. >> >> Bharat Varma >> -- >> d-_-b >> > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
Hi, I think nobody will blame you for using this screenshot which is, in my humble opinion, a really good example of how the black/orange theme for the next cycle should look like. It reminds me of this one: http://mossblaser.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-8-04-GUI-Design-Idea-72574609 but even better. I also take advantage of this mail to repeat my opinion, which is that such a theme would be particularly nice if the colors of controls/windows/system icons were parametrisable (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-February/005171.html). Cheers, François Bharat Varma wrote : > Hi, > > I am only an end-user of Ubuntu and I know squat about UI / UI > guidelines or even how to present what I have in mind using Gimp etc. > Could never understand how to use Gimp either :) > > But I would like to draw attention to a visual style I have > encountered for Windows. I have used this myself (love it !!!) and I > believe this visual style is close to what the original hardy > guidelines suggested > in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign > > http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/Elements-VS-82691770 > > If there is anyone who can take a look at the visual style above, it > would be great. > > I didn't know if it was okay to put screenshots of a Windows OS in the > /alternate link on ubuntu site. If it is, I will take permission from > the author and do that. If it is okay to include those screenshots as > attachments to this mailing list, I can do that too. > > Bharat Varma > -- > d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?
Hi, I am only an end-user of Ubuntu and I know squat about UI / UI guidelines or even how to present what I have in mind using Gimp etc. Could never understand how to use Gimp either :) But I would like to draw attention to a visual style I have encountered for Windows. I have used this myself (love it !!!) and I believe this visual style is close to what the original hardy guidelines suggested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/Elements-VS-82691770 If there is anyone who can take a look at the visual style above, it would be great. I didn't know if it was okay to put screenshots of a Windows OS in the /alternate link on ubuntu site. If it is, I will take permission from the author and do that. If it is okay to include those screenshots as attachments to this mailing list, I can do that too. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
