Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-04 Thread Stewart Johnston
Paul Gear wrote:
> Tom Sparks wrote:
>   
>> so what other option do have for formating my drive that can be read in 
>> windows or should i forget windows compatibility?
>>   
>> 
>
> There are no good options that allow you to set permissions on
> individual files and include Windows compatibility.
>
> If you are willing to forego permissions, NTFS and FAT32 both are will
> work.  If you're not willing to forego permissions, Samba is an option.
>
> Paul
>
>   
If you're looking to read a drive in Windows in a dual-boot situation,
I'd recommend formatting the drive as ext2 and installing fs-drive
http://www.fs-driver.org/

It's a small programme that allows Windows to read & write to ext2 volumes

If you need journalling as well, it will work with ext3 volumes as well.
Also, any permissions will not be apparent within Windows (since it
doesn't support it)


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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Paul Gear
Tom Sparks wrote:
> so what other option do have for formating my drive that can be read in 
> windows or should i forget windows compatibility?
>   

There are no good options that allow you to set permissions on
individual files and include Windows compatibility.

If you are willing to forego permissions, NTFS and FAT32 both are will
work.  If you're not willing to forego permissions, Samba is an option.

Paul

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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Sparks

so what other option do have for formating my drive that can be read in windows 
or should i forget windows compatibility?

tom_a_sparks

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--- On Wed, 4/3/09, Karl Goetz  wrote:

From: Karl Goetz 
Subject: Re: permission modification mysteries
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Received: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 12:21 AM

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:09:15 -0800 (PST)
Tom Sparks  wrote:

> 
> I want to change world/other access from read and write to just read
> the owner is root i have tryed with sudo nautilus and using

Please dont use nautilus with sudo - for that matter, dont use any GUI
app with sudo. use gksu or kdesu (as apropriate)

> properties to change the files

> 
> ps: I am using a NTFS formated drive

This is probably part of the problem.
check how the drive is mounted (with `mount`), and that you have it
mounted writeable.
Past that, I cant help (don't use ntfs).
kk

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> 
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> --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Karl Goetz  wrote:
> 
> From: Karl Goetz 
> Subject: Re: permission modification mysteries
> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
> Received: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 10:40 PM
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:50:47 -0800 (PST)
> Tom Sparks  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > i am trying to change the permission of a group of files
> > but ever time I change the permission it snaps back
> > 
> > i am at a lost, can anyone help?
> 
> What are you using to change them, what are you changing from, and
> what to?
> kk
> 



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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread James Collier
Hi Tom,
> > I want to change world/other access from read and write to just read
> > the owner is root i have tryed with sudo nautilus and using
> 
> Please dont use nautilus with sudo - for that matter, dont use any GUI
> app with sudo. use gksu or kdesu (as apropriate)
> 
> > properties to change the files
> 
> > 
> > ps: I am using a NTFS formated drive

NTFS doesn't store POSIX permissions, although
the ntfs-3g FUSE driver can approximate them. This may be nothing to do
with your problem but for more info see:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/b.andre/permissions.html

Karl's advice is good: don't use NTFS.

James C

P.S. Apologies for misdirecting to you Karl


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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Karl Goetz
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:09:15 -0800 (PST)
Tom Sparks  wrote:

> 
> I want to change world/other access from read and write to just read
> the owner is root i have tryed with sudo nautilus and using

Please dont use nautilus with sudo - for that matter, dont use any GUI
app with sudo. use gksu or kdesu (as apropriate)

> properties to change the files

> 
> ps: I am using a NTFS formated drive

This is probably part of the problem.
check how the drive is mounted (with `mount`), and that you have it
mounted writeable.
Past that, I cant help (don't use ntfs).
kk

> 
> tom_a_sparks
> 
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 
> --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Karl Goetz  wrote:
> 
> From: Karl Goetz 
> Subject: Re: permission modification mysteries
> To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
> Received: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 10:40 PM
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:50:47 -0800 (PST)
> Tom Sparks  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > i am trying to change the permission of a group of files
> > but ever time I change the permission it snaps back
> > 
> > i am at a lost, can anyone help?
> 
> What are you using to change them, what are you changing from, and
> what to?
> kk
> 



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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Sparks

I want to change world/other access from read and write to just read
the owner is root i have tryed with sudo nautilus and using properties to 
change the files

ps: I am using a NTFS formated drive

tom_a_sparks

Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Karl Goetz  wrote:

From: Karl Goetz 
Subject: Re: permission modification mysteries
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Received: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 10:40 PM

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:50:47 -0800 (PST)
Tom Sparks  wrote:

> 
> i am trying to change the permission of a group of files
> but ever time I change the permission it snaps back
> 
> i am at a lost, can anyone help?

What are you using to change them, what are you changing from, and what
to?
kk

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Re: permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Karl Goetz
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:50:47 -0800 (PST)
Tom Sparks  wrote:

> 
> i am trying to change the permission of a group of files
> but ever time I change the permission it snaps back
> 
> i am at a lost, can anyone help?

What are you using to change them, what are you changing from, and what
to?
kk

> 
> tom_a_sparks
> 

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permission modification mysteries

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Sparks

i am trying to change the permission of a group of files
but ever time I change the permission it snaps back

i am at a lost, can anyone help?

tom_a_sparks

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