[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
@Vadim Peretokin: The simple fact that the drivers are available doesn't force you to install them, see my earlier comments. The point is: you have a choice of installing them or not AND if something goes wrong you can roll back cleanly. Freedom of choice. Frankly, I wouldn't have such a big problem installing them using the nvidia installer if there weren't those reports about breaking the system if you do so. I'm running Ubuntu on a production machine so I need it to have high availability and be usable. Maybe this is making me overly cautious in installing using the nvidia installer and so I would like to have the option of installing using a package (cleaner, IMHO) especially since the Recommended driver (177) had serious issues with OpenOffice (heavy screen corruption -- Really?! On a production machine running a stable version?! I'm not running a development version, BTW). I'm already sorry I upgraded to Intrepid: upgrade broke the system so I had to do a clean install only to find out that the office suite I need to use every day has the side effect of causing screen corruption in some way. This is why I'm saying that I think Canonical needs to do a far better job in terms of hardware support and not simply rely on the community especially because bug #1 is a target for the company. The fact that ther target seems to be to provide the same level of usability as Windows makes me run Ubuntu and not OpenSuse on my work machine. Maybe this seems like a rant to you -- it's not meant to be. It's simply some stuff that's been on my mind lately. I think it's not just me that feels the same way and I think we need to voice our opinions if we want resolution. My 2c. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.11 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
It's not a reason - you always can roll back to the older driver in this case ;) 2008/12/3 Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The reason why I'm against them is because I had stability issues - screen > would sometimes flicker and whole computer just pause. However I installed > the driver via nvidia's own installer - so I'm waiting for a package to be > available in ubuntu for testing first. > > -- > Update Package: nVidia 180.06 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
The reason why I'm against them is because I had stability issues - screen would sometimes flicker and whole computer just pause. However I installed the driver via nvidia's own installer - so I'm waiting for a package to be available in ubuntu for testing first. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Shock, these are good questions and I don't know the answers. But that just proves that you and I are not in a position to evaluate the situation. It's not about being right or wrong: you either trust the team and compliment Alberto & the rest with their good work or you don't. (I do) Have a little faith :-) -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
mattcasters: "get 180 out there immediately or after a bit of testing." Who does the testing? What is the downside of making it available immediately without pushing it as default/recommended? -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
I was merely commenting on the fact that you can always make a decision either way: get 180 out there immediately or after a bit of testing. As 180.11 proves you can make a case for both. In this case I think the best thing to do was give the nv packagers a bit more time to fix a few annoying (not critical) bugs. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Alberto, Thanks again for all your work. I am most appreciative of it, I'm sure others are too -- they're prolly just a bit more shy in voicing that :) -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
mattcasters: glyphcache is enabled by default now. See the changelog of 180.06 ("Enabled the X Render "GlyphCache" by default.") Shock: I have packaged the new release (I was affected by the font corruption bug too) and I have just asked a core developer to upload it to Jaunty. ma2412ma: it depends on how busy core developers are. I'll let you know when the new packages are available in the backports. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
mattcasters, the requirement to run this command after every restart of X might have been resolved with 180.11 as Shock pointed out. Anyway, when will 180 (now 180.11) be added to the backports repository of Intrepid? -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
here is what i did: $ dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180_180.08-0ubuntu1.dsc $ pbuilder-intrepid build nvidia-graphics-drivers-180_180.08-0ubuntu1.dsc -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
For what it is worth, I agree with the caution of the packagers in this case. The driver is tagged beta for a reason. Yes, it's true that most of my Kubuntu Intrepid issues went away with the upgrade to nvidia driver version 180.06. No, that was not the end of it. As documented on the Nvidia forum, I'm still required to run this after every restart of X, including after every suspend/hibernate/reboot: nvidia-settings -a GlyphCache=0 -a InitialPixmapPlacement=0 I also agree with Xavier and all since we can at least see "something" on our screens in stead of being dumped to a command line prompt without network support since that's apparently another stupid change in Intrepid. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Per this thread http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124059 nvidia driver version 180.11 (beta) was released. Release Highlights: * Added support for the following new GPUs: o GeForce 9400M * Fixed font corruption on GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs when the GlyphCache setting is enabled. * Fixed a memory leak problem when the GlyphCache setting is enabled. * Added support for GVO full-range color. * Fixed a problem parsing the monitor sync range X config file options. * Improved VDPAU error detection and reporting. * Improved VDPAU support for some video bitstreams. The 180.11 NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver Set for Linux/x86 is available for download via FTP. The 180.11 NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver Set for Linux/x86-64 is available for download via FTP. Please see the README (x86, x86-64) for more information about this release. It seems to fix the font corruption issue I was mentioning earlier. Until we get the 180.11 driver in the repos (if we get it) there a couple of alternative fixes for the font corruption issue: 1) set GlyphCache to 0: nvidia-settings -a GlyphCache=0 Some reports indicate that in some cases the InitialPixmapPlacement needs to be also set to 0 to get rid of the text corruption. YMMV 2) disable sub-pixel hinting in the anti-aliasing settings. - This info is provided AS IS and I make absolutely NO WARRANTIES whether express or implied. If you decide to use the info you do so at your own risk! -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
tis 2008-12-02 klockan 17:27 + skrev Shock: > Alberto: Where are the packages available from? I wasn't able to find them. They will be here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics- drivers-180/ For now, the binaries are here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics- drivers-180/180.08-0ubuntu1/+build/802788 /Mikael -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
nvidia release cycle is such as we get fully usable "beta" drivers. Should we remove all the softwares with a version number < 1.0 from the repositories? ;) "beta" or "release" is not a problem: It works! Other drivers do not work. Xavier On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:17 AM, ma2412ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not? If the beta happens to be way better than the previous stable > release where's the problem? > > -- > Update Package: nVidia 180.06 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Intrepid Ibex Backports: New > Status in "nvidia-graphics-drivers-177" source package in Ubuntu: Fix > Released > Status in "nvidia-graphics-drivers-180" source package in Ubuntu: Fix > Released > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 in Ubuntu Intrepid: In Progress > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 in Ubuntu Intrepid: In Progress > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released > Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released > > Bug description: > Release Highlights, 180.06 > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123072 > >* Added support for CUDA 2.1. >* Added initial support for PureVideo-like features on Linux via the new > VDPAU API (see the vdpau.h header file installed withthe driver). >* Added new workstation performance optimizations. >* Enabled the X Render "GlyphCache" by default. >* Disabled shared memory X pixmaps by default; see the"AllowSHMPixmaps" > option. >* Fixed a regression that could result in window decorationcorruption > when running Compiz using Geforce 6 and 7 series GPUs. >* Improved X pixmap placement on GeForce 8 series and later GPUs. >* Improved compatibility with recent Linux kernels. >* Improved stability on some GeForce 8 series and newer GPUs. > > > Release Highlights, 177.82: > >* Added support for the following new GPUs: > o Quadro NVS 450 > o Quadro FX 370 LP > o Quadro FX 5800 > o Quadro FX 4800 > o Quadro FX 470 > o Quadro CX >* Fixed a problem on recent mobile GPUs that caused a power management > resume from S3 to take 30+ seconds. >* Fixed a problem with hotkey switching on some recent mobile GPUs. >* Fixed an image corruption issue seen in FireFox 3. > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1842773 > > Tested without any notable issues. Test with Jaunty ? > -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Why not? If the beta happens to be way better than the previous stable release where's the problem? -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Erm, I don't consider a -beta- software to be available right away on everybody's computer. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Alberto: Where are the packages available from? I wasn't able to find them. They show up in the Jaunty queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue but I don't think they've been built yet. Launchpad search returns no matches: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+search?text=nvidia-glx-180 I completely understand that the packages are in universe, but in the grand scheme of things Canonical is doing a very poor job especially in light of bug #1. Weeks have passed since the driver has been released by Nvidia and it's still not available in Ubuntu. I consider good hardware support the bare _minimum_ for us to stand a chance of resolving bug #1. Please let me assure you, Alberto, that in no way I consider you responsible for any of this -- In fact I have nothing but praise for your work so far. Instead I think Canonical needs to find better ways than relying on the community for basic hardware support such as video. For example, Nvidia provides OpenSuse packages for their video drivers, I would assume the same would be possible for Ubuntu. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
> the impatient can install my packages for Jaunty >From where? I've made sure to keep up-to-date, and I still don't see them via apt-get. I've assumed that I just need to be a bit more patient, but you seem to imply that even the impatient should be able to see them by now. -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
Shock: the impatient can install my packages for Jaunty (which contain all the purevideo goodness). -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06
** Also affects: intrepid-backports Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Update Package: nVidia 180.06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/297543 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is the registrant for Intrepid Ibex Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports