[Bug 1765058] Re: Regression: 046d:08da Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messanger not detected in Bionic

2020-10-02 Thread KennoVO
Hi, since COVID-19 forced everyone to dig up old webcams, I thought I'd share 
my "universal" workaround (sorry it's a clunky one):
Step 1 (one time): sudo apt install v4l2loopback-utils
Step 2 (redo after reboot): sudo modprobe v4l2loopback devices=1 
exclusive_caps=1
Step 3 (before starting a video call): ffmpeg -vsync 2 -f v4l2 -i /dev/video0 
-pix_fmt yuv420p -f v4l2 /dev/video1

Notes:
* In the above Step 3, /dev/video0 is the "problematic" webcam and /dev/video1 
the newly created loopback device. You can check which is which with 'v4l2-ctl 
--list-devices' (after installing v4l2-ctl with 'sudo apt install v4l-utils')
* I recommend letting ffmpeg run in an open terminal during the video call, and 
stopping it with CTRL-C when finished (so that the webcam can power down and 
the CPU is not unnecessarily loaded)
* What all this does: simply spoken, the problem is that some old webcams 
expose nonstandard parameters/controls to the software, and not all programs 
can deal with that. This solution makes a "virtual webcam" with bog-standard 
properties. The ffmpeg command streams the output from the real webcam to the 
virtual webcam.
* For higher resolution webcams, it may be necessary to add a -s 640x480 or -s 
1280x720 or something along those lines to the ffmpeg command. Carefully, 
because the order of the flags matters.
* To use the virtual device in cheese (and possibly other older programs), I 
believe you still need v4l1compat.so (which solves a different, independent 
problem).

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[Bug 1772081] Re: HP x360 - Ryzen 2500U Locks up

2019-01-28 Thread KennoVO
> disabling it increases power consumption of CPU at least by 80% in
idle state

That doesn't say much at all. _Suppose_ the CPU's power consumption is
5W in C6 state, and it indeed increases by 80%, then it becomes 9W, or
4W more. I could live with that - at least until a better fix becomes
available.

The problem is of course that those are imaginary numbers. Does anyone
have some data on the increase in power consumption, in W, of a real
system upon disabling C6 state?

Otherwise, I may attempt to measure it myself once I find some time. But
that can take a while...

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[Bug 1768352] Re: mate-screensaver screen lock can be bypassed by power cycling monitor

2018-10-28 Thread KennoVO
Any progress on fixing this in the LTS version?

AFAIC this is a pretty high-profile security issue, and may not very
prudent to leave open for months after it's fixed upstream. Imagine the
storm of bad press if Microsoft or Apple were to pull something like
this - or even if this bug report catches the eye of the wrong people...

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[Bug 1072136] Re: [FFe] After doing updates, update manager propose to install an empty list of updates

2018-10-28 Thread KennoVO
The good news: released fix works.

What's a bit worrisome, though, is that I had to *manually* run
sudo apt-get install update-manager update-manager-core python3-update-manager
in order to be able to use update-manager to install all other updates, some of 
which were long overdue because of this bug.

I'm not sure if update-manager would eventually have updated
automatically, but even then, I can imagine that a lot of users would be
permanently at risk from outdated software because of having disabled
automatic updates or because of running ubuntu on a laptop that never
gets the chance to update automatically [as the bug itself prevents
updating manually, at least for users who only know update-manager].

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[Bug 1636402] Re: Low text contrast with Ambiant-Mate color scheme

2018-08-07 Thread KennoVO
I do get that you're trying to motivate someone to tweak the Ambiant-
Mate theme, and I do agree that it is not particularly comfortable to
use in Pluma. However, I don't think threatening to recommend another
distro will impress many people, given that all one needs to do is go
into Preferences... Font & Colors... and choose another theme, such as
"Radiant-MATE".

What annoys me more is that choosing "Radiant-Mate" desktop-wide in
"Appearance Preferences" neither affects pluma, nor the MATE terminal.
For the latter app, this is especially unforgivable, since it has a "Use
colors from system theme" check box that is explicitly supposed to
follow "Appearance Preferences" according to the help document.

So we actually have 3 bugs here:
(1) Ambiant-Mate is poorly readable (That would be this bug, except that it 
might need to be filed against the theme instead of pluma, per your post #3 . 
It can also be argued to be a matter of opinion, though if a large percentage 
of the users turn out to be of the opinion that it's poorly readable, then it 
is a problem nevertheless.)
(2) "Use colors from system theme" in MATE terminal does not do what is says.
(3) There is no corresponding way to make pluma follow the system theme (also, 
consistency???)

Feel free to modify the "Affects" field of this bug and file 2 more bugs
(assuming they're not in some bug tracker here or upstream already). I'd
do it myself if I had more time...

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[Bug 563808] Re: glob2 assert failure: glob2: src/Building.cpp:2848: void Building::integrity(): Assertion `(*it)->targetBuilding==this' failed.

2015-12-20 Thread KennoVO
** Bug watch added: Non-GNU Savannah Bug Tracker #25731
   http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25731

** Also affects: glob2 via
   http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25731
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #592412
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592412

** Also affects: glob2 (Debian) via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592412
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-08-14 Thread KennoVO
The Optimus issue most definitely must be filed as a separate bug (and
comments on it go there). In order for a bug tracking system like this
to work well, the technical scope of a bug must be narrowly defined;
that's software development good practice 101. If the scope of a bug is
vague or allowed to creep, no developer will touch the "assign to me"
button with a 10-foot pole. In fact, this is exactly the reason why
lp:1268257 has been sitting there for 18 months without any progress;
the error description consisted of a *symptom* that could have a very
large number of causes, so nobody was willing to go look into all of
them. It was only after it was realized that lp:1431753 was the cause in
the vast majority of cases that things started moving. In this context,
kudos go to teo1978 for forcing the breakthrough by finding and applying
a workaround for lp:1450251 . You guys have to forgive him for being a
bit testy. Even the most patient person would throw a fit after waiting
18 moths for a trivial-looking fix to a bug that made thousands of users
lose their GUI every few weeks, and then getting another show-stopping
problem when applying that fix!

Anyhow, the scope of *this* bug is the DKMS violation, which is fully
fixed. From a *technical* perspective, the Optimus issue is an entirely
unrelated bug. The fact that it's triggered by the present fix does not
matter a this stage.

Just to set the record straight (you might want to use part 
of this in the description of the new bug): there are (at least) 2 separate 
ways to get Optimus support working in Ubuntu:
(1) nvidia-prime : allows you to switch between running the whole desktop on 
Intel or Nvidia. The choice is made in the nvidia control panel and takes 
effect when logging out and back in. It's far from a perfect solution but at 
least it's easy to use.
(2) bumblebee : allows you to specify on which card to run a given program at 
the command-line (or by editing the application launcher). I personally prefer 
this route because it gives me more granular control and doesn't force you to 
log out, but novice users may find it cumbersome.
It appears that the configuration files of the packages that are involved in 
both (1) and (2) did not anticipate drivers newer than 331 to be used with 
14.04, resulting in a blank screen upon login. The fix for (1) is in Anna's 
link: 
http://vxlabs.com/2015/02/05/solving-the-ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-346-nvidia-prime-black-screen-issue/
 . As for (2), see my post: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340-updates/+bug/1431753/comments/62
 .
Now, if canonical was really serious about LTS, they would have a sufficiently 
large and professional team working on this. The person responsible for the 
nvidia driver would have remembered to contacted the people responsible for the 
gpu-manager and bumblebee packages, or at the very least have been reminded of 
it by my post, which I made when the fix was still in the "proposed" stage. The 
actual release of the fix would have been delayed while those other developers 
would be updating the configuration files of their respective packages (that's, 
like, less than an hour of work), and the updates would need another round of 
testing. After 18 months, nobody would have cared about those few days, and it 
would have prevented the present outpouring of disappointment.

And yes, there is a lesson to be learned here.
It is becoming increasingly clear that Ubuntu Mobile, much like Windows
Mobile, will never compete with the 800-pound gorillas Android and iOS
on the mobile platform, and all efforts in that direction are an utter
waste. Also, thinking that the desktop will go away is naive; desktops
will continue being the platform of choice in the workplace (as well as
the enthusiast's basement) for the foreseeable future. Therefore,
Canonical should go back to doing what it did best: pushing Linux into
the desktop market. And since IT managers generally don't want to
upgrade all systems every 6 months. LTS support deserves far more love
than it's currently getting.

Windows 10's retreat to the desktop metaphor was largely driven by the
realization that the desktop market is firmly shifting into the domain
of professionals (and enthusiasts), who are not well-served with bells
and whistles, frequent breakage and a dumbed-down interface. How long
will it take until Shuttleworth gets the memo?

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-07-30 Thread KennoVO
Sezer, you're not going to believe this, but the issue you're having
with steam has nothing to to with the nvidia driver, but is caused by a
completely unrelated kernel bug that just happened to occur at the same
time people started testing the fix for the nvidia driver; see
lp:1479093 . The fix for the kernel bug is already released, so just
upgrade your kernel yet again, and your steam problem will go away.

I have to add that I also got confused by wine not working anymore after
applying the nvidia patch (and upgrading the kernel for the first time
in many months in order to test it), and it took me almost 2 hours to
figure out the problem was unrelated. This whole affair is turning into
one of the most frustrating experiences I've ever had with Ubuntu.

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-07-27 Thread KennoVO
Mat, I am happy you got past your blank-screen problem, even though the
things mentioned in my previous post may or may not have played a role
in solving it.

To be perfectly clear toward other people who come across this
discussion, the points (1)-(4) in my previous post DO NOT represent a
step-by-step solution for getting a graphical desktop back after running
a routine kernel upgrade. They are a few things *I* tried for the
specific case of APPLYING THE DRIVERS FROM TRUSTY-PROPOSED TO AN
EXISTING BUMBLEBEE SETUP. And it's quite likely some of them are not
useful or even harmful.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-07-26 Thread KennoVO
For anyone who didn't get the message, fixed versions of the the 440
driver (with legacy GPU support) and the 446 driver (which only supports
relatively recent GPUs) are now available in the official trusty-
proposed repository. A few people (including me) have reported trying
them with the 3.13 kernel and getting encouraging results. So, for those
of you who cannot wait to have a fix up and running, try trusty-proposed
; for the rest, it looks like the long wait for a fix in the "default
distribution" is almost over.

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-07-26 Thread KennoVO
Fix confirmed on 2 very different machines both running Ubuntu 14.04
"Trusty" with the 3.13 kernel. Detailed notes:

AMD workstation with only a discrete nvidia GPU (nothing else)

Synaptic complained about conflicts when selecting updated driver from 
trusty-proposed (something involving nvidia-libopencl1-* vs nvidia-opencl-icd-* 
IIRC). Installing through aptitude worked better. No further issues when 
rebooting, updating the kernel and rebooting again.

Intel laptop running bumblebee
==
Blank screen after updating. Solutions tried:
(1) starting the kernel with nogpumanager and removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
generated by gpu-manager
(2) removing the newly created file /etc/prime-discrete
(3) sudo sed -i 's/-current/-346-updates/g' /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
(4) adding lines for 340 and 346 to /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf

Applying all of the above fixed the problem, and (1)-(3) without (4)
didn't, so it's very likely that (4) is necessary. What I cannot tell is
which of (1)-(3) are also necessary and which are optional.(*) Bottom
line is that special precautions should be taken to prevent bumblebee
from breaking when rolling this out.

(*) I could of course figure that out by reverting the changes one-by-
one, but this bug already robbed me of an outrageous amount of my time
and all of my goodwill, so you're on your own. Thanks a lot for finally
fixing it, though.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-06-15 Thread KennoVO
No, this is *not* fixed for 331 and 331-updates; in fact, nothing has
changed. The "fix released" status presumably was set by yet another
inattentive user who landed onto this Launchpad page after getting a
whoopsie error. Unfortunately, the status cannot easily be reverted to
"triaged" because of what I feel is a shortcoming in Launchpad.

There is some good news, though: Alberto Milone over at lp:1431753
(which describes the actual *source* of the problem) hinted at intending
to provide a fix for 14.04. Unfortunately, he hasn't provided any
updates, details or time frame in the last 3 weeks. So, those of you who
have not become completely embittered by Canonical's unforgivable lack
of attention to this atrocious bug in their "Less Than Stellar" (LTS)
line, PLEASE head over to lp:1431753 and politely draw their attention
to the fact that a massive number of users are very badly affected.

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-06-15 Thread KennoVO
*bump*

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-05-30 Thread KennoVO
Nice! Will this work with the 3.13 kernel in 14.04 ? Also, do you have
any idea when it will be available to end-users?

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-05-23 Thread KennoVO
Alberto, thank you sooo much, that is great news. Especially since there seems 
to be another wave of bitter comments and confusion on lp:1268257 . Two 
questions:
- Am I understanding correctly that you'll fix the problem for the 331 driver 
AND that we'll have the option of using the 340 or 346 driver with the 3.13 
kernel in 14.04 ? (For me personally, _either_ solution would work. Having 
newer drivers is always nice, but there might hypothetically be people with 
really old hardware who require the old driver.)
- Do you have any idea when either solution will be available to end-users?

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-05-08 Thread KennoVO
@Adam Koczur (sbv): you do indeed appear to have the wrong bug report;
the bug we're (effectively) talking about *here* is also triggered by
331.113-0ubuntu0.0.4 from nvidia-331-updates (it's what I'm running) and
is described more accurately at lp:1431753 . In case you wonder why the
heck this is not a duplicate, see lp:1450251 . I don't know whether I
have to laugh or cry.

@Robert Dinse (nanook): you probably should take the 3.19 discussion to
the relevant LP bug report - @Adam Koczur (sbv), can you please povide
an "lp:" link? There is far too much offtopic talk on this one as it is
already.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-05-08 Thread KennoVO
@Adam Koczur (sbv): nice, that is a step in the right direction!
However, I have to point out that pretty much everyone who is affected
by this bug is running the 3.13 kernel that comes with Trusty; those who
are running newer (non-LTS) kernels all have newer nvidia drivers
(except the ones with legacy graphic cards, but that's a minority;
nvidia's legacy support goes quite a way back...)

So, do you think it would be safe to test your ppa with the 3.13 kernel,
or is that not expected to work?

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-05-04 Thread KennoVO
Dear Alberto and others, Could you please please backport this fix to
the 331 driver, which is the most recent one available for 14.04 LTS
(Trusty)? Or at the very least explain why this might not be as trivial
as it sounds? This bug impacts a massive amount of Trusty users, and
failing to get a graphical interface every time the kernel is upgraded
is quite high-profile; a lot of people are abandoning Ubuntu altogether
for it. Our whole workplace may do so soon because one of the programs
we use professionally requires the proprietary Nvidia driver and our
support people cannot afford the time commitment to have everyone use
the non-LTS branches.

I also feel I need to point out that the "users affected" and bug heat
of this report ( lp:1431753 ) are misleadingly low. Most of the users
who trigger this bug land at lp:1268257 . If you look at the stats of
*that* bug and all the recent comments, the whole affair starts to look
like a trainwreck. We tried to make lp:1268257 a duplicate of this bug (
lp:1431753 ), which would presumably bump the latter to the top of the
priority list, but were prevented from doing so by a bug in Launchpad
itself ( lp:1450251 ).

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-05-01 Thread KennoVO
@Bill Turner, wb4alm (wb4alm): FYI, "Triaged" means that a bug
supervisor has determined that the bug report contains all necessary
information to start working on it. This is in my opinion the (only)
correct status for nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 and nvidia-graphics-
drivers-331-updates (note that some of the necessary information is in
lp:1431753 ). See also https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Statuses .

@Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt): thank you, thank you so much!!! You might
have saved my sanity there (depending on whether the issue will actually
get fixed in a reasonable time span).

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-29 Thread KennoVO
This is my current Hanlon-compliant(*) theory as to why the fix is not 
backported:
- Anyone looking up this bug will land at the top of the page, where the status 
is displayed. A small percentage will make random changes to the status by lack 
of attention or understanding.
- This bug report is visited by huge numbers of people, so even though the 
percentage of "inattentives" is small, we're seeing lots of random status 
changes in its activity log.
- The problem is that some status changes are irrevocable. Specifically, 
shortly after the fix was released for the 340 and 346 drivers, people 
mistakenly changed the status for the 331 drivers and the bug as a whole to 
"fix released". This made it fall off the devs' radar, and there doesn't seem 
to be a way to roll back the status. In my opinion, this is stupid and should 
be filed as a bug against Launchpad itself.

My current plan to work around this problem is to mark this bug ( lp:1268257 ) 
a duplicate of lp:1431753 , which
- has the status set correctly, including a target for "Trusty",
- has a more knowledgeable description of the root cause of the problem and how 
to fix it,
- is frequented by people who can actually fix it,
- suffers from a low "bug heat", which will change dramatically if my plan 
succeeds,
- does not suffer from random status changes.
However, a new problem surfaced: trying to set the dupe in Launchpad invariably 
gives a timeout error (Error ID: OOPS-f524378385a3a281890972cc17c96962 
OOPS-bb927226a672db21659a9f400adc4757 etc...) I speculate this is due to the 
huge size of this bug in terms of followers, duplicates, people affected and 
comments. Whatever be the cause, it's yet another bug to be filed against 
Launchpad itself.

Needless to say, I'm getting deeply disillusioned with Ubuntu, Canonical
and its bug fixing process...

(*) My alternative theories that are not compliant with Hanlon's razor
are probably not appropriate for this venue. :-P

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-29 Thread KennoVO
@ Sébastien BOUISSET (sbouisset): your're using the non-LTS branch of
Ubuntu. I've been repeating ad nauseam during the last few weeks that
the issue is NOT FIXED in the LTS branch, which uses the 331 driver, and
is popular with professional users.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-26 Thread KennoVO
Oh come on, this is completely wrong! This bug is *NOT * fixed for the
331 driver (and also not for "NVIDIA Drivers Ubuntu" because 331 is the
most recent driver available in 14.04 LTS (Trusty)). Why doesn't
launchpad allow to correct this mistake by setting it back the
"Confirmed"??? If the devs are under the mistaken impression it is
fixed, it will never get their attention. What does it take to rectify
this? Opening yet another new bug and marking this one as a duplicate?

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-23 Thread KennoVO
The fact that there are so many accidental edits to the status of this
bug seems to indicate it's getting large numbers of views. Canonical,
your LTS user base is bleeding. For pity's sake, make it stop.

Talking about accidental edits, can someone please, please set the
status for "NVIDIA Drivers Ubuntu" back to "Confirmed"? See my message
#259 ...

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-23 Thread KennoVO
** Changed in: nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
 Assignee: done (mnmarkonissinen) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-20 Thread KennoVO
@stephen (stephen-puttick) : I don't think that's needed; it is my
understanding from lp:1431753 that this bug is already fully
characterized, and fixed for the 340 and 346 drivers in Utopic and
Vivid. Furthermore, the fact that the fix appears to be performed at the
level of the metadata strongly suggests that it would be absolutely
trivial to apply the same fix to the 331 drivers in (un)Trust(worth)y.

Canonical might have their reasons for not "backporting" the fix to
their LTS release, but as long as the only noise we get from them is
crickets chirping, it is hardly surprising that the community is
starting to ask questions about their motives and/or professionalism...

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-12 Thread KennoVO
You might have meant to say 14.04. Which is still supported till March
1019. That's a very long time for Canonical to claim to be supporting
something that's so broken...

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-11 Thread KennoVO
@ awol (awol99) : I'll do you one better. At my workplace, we just
started the process of gradually upgrading all our machines from 12.04
Precise to 14.04 Trusty. After starting with a few, we've hit this bug.
Yesterday, I had a discussion about it with the person responsible for
software maintenance, and it looks like we'll be upgrading the whole
shop to Debian instead. It's not just the direct annoyance caused by
this bug (though it is rather serious given that one of the programs we
use professionally requires the proprietary Nvidia driver), but more
importantly what Canonical's response (or rater lack thereof) implies
for our future level of support.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-10 Thread KennoVO
As long as the current LTS (i.e. 331) drivers are not fixed, I think it
is wrong to set the status for nvidia-drivers-ubuntu to "Fix Released".
Can someone with the necessary permissions please undo the status change
by royalsabz (mehrshad-5843) ? And set the importance to "High", while
you're at it? This is a really important high-impact bug that should be
as high as possible on the agenda until it's completely fixed for all
currently supported releases. In this light, the apparent casual lack of
attention from Canonical's side is beyond my comprehension. I can only
speculate they're too busy making Vivid attractive enough to lure in new
users, and are forgetting about keeping long-time users.

To the people who think that's the right thing to do: please try to
weigh the potential harm caused by delaying Vivid a day or so against
the actual harm of having thousands of long-time users' desktops
breaking en masse because of running seemingly-innocuous kernel
updates...

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-04-09 Thread KennoVO
Can someone please, please apply the fix that worked for 346 and 340 to
331 also? Or at the very least explain why this might not be as trivial
as it sounds? As I pointed out in lp:1431753, 331 is still the most
recent driver supported by the current LTS release. This is a bug that
affects thousands of users, not all of whom will be willing/skilled to
upgrade their kernels (and then upgrade them again and again every time
short-term support runs out). This bug has impacted us badly, and I'm on
the verge of stopping to recommend people to use Ubuntu LTS in
professional settings, as I feel Canonical is betraying its LTS users
big time here. And I'm not the only one losing my patience; see for
instance comment #249...

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[Bug 1431753] Re: Nvidia binary driver FTBS due to DKMS layer violation

2015-04-08 Thread KennoVO
Sorry, but 331 is still the most recent driver supported by the LTS
release. While "LTS" doesn't seem to mean much to Canonical anymore, at
least try to keep up the appearance. Especially for a bug that affects
thousands of users, not all of whom will be willing/skilled to upgrade
their kernels (and then upgrade them again and again every time short-
term support runs out).

** Changed in: nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

** Changed in: nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-03-29 Thread KennoVO
The workaround in post #100 works at the level of the individual user,
but it's a bit flawed in the sense that it will be undone every time the
driver (not the kernel) is updated. In addition, if I understand the
legal aspects correctly (IANAL), it does not qualify as a fix because
Canonical cannot _distribute_ it without committing a license violation.

And requiring the user to reinstall the driver after every kernel
upgrade (post #101) *definitely* doesn't qualify as a fix.

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[Bug 1268257] Re: nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"

2015-03-29 Thread KennoVO
** Also affects: nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1026356] Re: Bad validation on Scales box on Axis (chart properties)

2014-08-13 Thread KennoVO
Warning: launchpad's autogenerated hyperlinks in my previous post are
wrong; the explicit "https://"; link is the only correct one.

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[Bug 1026356] Re: Bad validation on Scales box on Axis (chart properties)

2014-08-13 Thread KennoVO
I linked this to upstream bug #49987 , but on second thought, upstream bug 
#57697 contains more recent and relevant info (they ought to mark one a 
duplicate of the other).
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57697

Between the 2 upstream reports, it appears the bug occurs in 3.5.x and
3.6.x, but is fixed from 3.7 onwards.

The upstream info also led me to find a workaround (for my specific
instance, anyway): in the "Format Axis" dialog, one can click on the
"Numbers" tab, uncheck "source format" (if it's checked), then choose
Category: Number and Format: General. Then click "OK" and open the
"Format Axis" dialog _again_, and then everything should work as
expected. This workaround has been a life-saver for me as I'm on a
machine I currently can't upgrade, and Ubuntu Precise is still supported
till 2017...

** Bug watch added: LibreOffice Bugzilla #57697
   https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57697

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[Bug 577658] Re: Bad validation on Scales box on Axis (chart properties)

2014-08-13 Thread KennoVO
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026356 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026356

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1026356
   Bad validation on Scales box on Axis (chart properties)

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[Bug 1026356] Re: Bad validation on Scales box on Axis (chart properties)

2014-08-13 Thread KennoVO
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #49987
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49987

** Also affects: df-libreoffice via
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49987
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1101636] Re: LICENSE.aic94xx-seq in linux-firmware - is this firmware distributable?

2014-06-16 Thread KennoVO
I had the same confusion as you. The only way I could make sense out of it all 
is that Canonical did not obtain the same (non-transferable) "distributor" 
license as Fedora core (and perhaps Debian), and instead must abide by the 
end-user license license:
http://www.adaptec.com/adapteccom/templates/driverdetail.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fen-us%2fspeed%2fscsi%2flinux%2faic94xx-seq-30-1_tar_gz.htm&NRCACHEHINT=Guest
which would indeed forbid distribution.

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[Bug 1152744] Re: mountall is lying about /run's noexec

2014-03-26 Thread KennoVO
Thanks Marc! I suspected as much, but I thought I'd ask to be sure.
Since it's just released, sysadmins will be happy to find the above
clarification in this thread, which helps planning reboots.

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[Bug 1152744] Re: mountall is lying about /run's noexec

2014-03-25 Thread KennoVO
Sorry for the naive question, but how severe are the security
implications of this? Does there exist a CVE, or otherwise a discussion
of the implications?

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[Bug 234071] Re: Multiple windows open on double click

2014-01-16 Thread KennoVO
This seems to have regressed in Precise (orage 4.8.3-1); I'm currently
experiencing the exact same problem.

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[Bug 40537] Re: [Upstream] [hardy] OpenOffice cannot write to NFS files

2013-06-18 Thread KennoVO
This is nothing short of appalling:
- Issue still present in LibreOffice on Precise (LTS)
- It's been 7 (seven) years
- Currently, the workaround is to edit a file that gets overwritten with every 
update: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645957&p=11891452#post11891452

The attached patch yields control over these essential flags back to
/etc/libreoffice/soffice.sh , which is part of libreoffice-common but is
ignored by /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice (in the same package).
It would be trivial for the package maintainer to apply this fix, with
no loss of functionality whatsoever. People who are on NSFv3 simply
would have to edit a flag in /etc/libreoffice/soffice.sh one time; since
it's in /etc , later updates should leave it alone. Nothing changes for
anyone else.

** Patch added: "libreoffice.patch"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/40537/+attachment/3706957/+files/libreoffice.patch

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[Bug 1032456] Re: Canon inkjets (and some other printers) print only half of the last page after 20120801 upgrade to v1.5.3-0ubuntu2

2013-06-16 Thread KennoVO
Confirmed with Canon MP520 on Precise . Tested very thoroughly with all 
different combinations of flags.
Didn't work: lpadmin -p Canon-PIXMA-MP520 -o usb-unidir-default=true
Didn't work: lpadmin -p Canon-PIXMA-MP520 -o usb-no-reattach-default=true
Did work: both of the above flags set at the same time.

Details:
$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 003 Device 014: ID 04a9:1724 Canon, Inc. 
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0409:0059 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13d3:5719 IMC Networks 
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0409:0059 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 003 Device 005: ID 046d:c042 Logitech, Inc. G3 Laser Mouse
Bus 003 Device 006: ID 046d:c313 Logitech, Inc. Internet 350 Keyboard
Bus 003 Device 007: ID 0b95:7720 ASIX Electronics Corp. AX88772
Bus 003 Device 008: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port
Bus 003 Device 009: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 
Headset

My 2c: it very much sounds like the remedy to bug 987485 and bug 997040
is worse than the disease, and that the above 2 flags should be made the
default rather than the exception.

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[Bug 910672] Re: [REDWOOD] dell U2410 monitor repeatedly turns itself on and off when suspended

2013-04-20 Thread KennoVO
Same problem with Intel HD Graphics 4000 on Xubuntu Precise

GPU: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller
Monitor: Viewsonic VX2025wm connected via HDMI
Kernel: 3.5.0-27-generic
X.Org X Server 1.11.3

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[Bug 999910] Re: [IVB]12.04 64 bit System freezes (mouse, keyboard)

2013-04-20 Thread KennoVO
@Timo: I'm sorry for the clueless question, but can you please explain
why this is marked "Fix Released" for Precise? Precise is an LTS
version, and it was my understanding that as long as Precise is
supported, fixes to proper bugs should to be backported to the "vanilla"
(3.2) kernel line. Can you confirm it is now Canonical's official policy
that users experiencing kernel bugs should be smart/motivated enough to
figure out the problem is fixed in a newer kernel that can be installed
through an optional "backports" package? In other words, does Canonical
now officially recommend the installation of "backport" packages in
order to keep an LTS version functional?

Also, it seems that Debian did backport the fix to 3.2 a couple of months ago. 
Can we expect this to tricle down to Ubuntu, and if yes, approximately when?
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689268#489

Finally note that HD 4000 is *very* common hardware (it's probably well
on its way to become the most widely used video chip), and the problem
is pretty serious, yet I found the solution (installing a "backport"
kernel) relatively hard to find. I wonder what this "new policy" will do
for Ubuntu's reputation among the less knowledgeable users who didn't
figure out the kernel upgrade...

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[Bug 969520] Re: IcedTea Java Web Start fails to open .jnlp file

2013-01-02 Thread KennoVO
The above workaround will break every time the package is updated. The correct 
workaround (in line with what Sam_ posted) is:
sudo update-alternatives --config javaws
and then choose the number in front of 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaws

Of course, this doesn't change the fact that this is a bug that needs to
be fixed. Specifically, the packages should provide the package manager
with the necessary hints so that the alternatives are always set right
(if I understand the software stack correctly).

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[Bug 411358] Re: Thunderbird2 gconf gmt problem 'Bad key or directory name' because of plus symbol (+)

2012-07-27 Thread KennoVO
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541130
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 411358] Re: Thunderbird2 gconf gmt problem 'Bad key or directory name' because of plus symbol (+)

2012-07-27 Thread KennoVO
There seems to be a regression; the bug came back in Thunderbird 13.0.1
and 14.0 (what I have here) on Lucid. Here's the upstream bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541130

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[Bug 588523] Re: Autofs5 fails on cascading/hierarchical mounts

2012-04-11 Thread KennoVO
By the way, importance = Wishlist ??? This is clearly a regression, ie.
something that used to work as expected, and now doesn't work as
expected anymore. Set the importance as low as you want, but please
don't make it look like a feature request!

Furthermore, the "bug heat" and # of people affected by this bug are in
fact higher than most of the "importance=Low" bugs in autofs ...

BTW. using version 4 as a workaround is even worse than I thought
because it doesn't support "direct mapping".

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[Bug 588523] Re: Autofs5 fails on cascading/hierarchical mounts

2012-04-11 Thread KennoVO
We tried autofs5.0.5 (natty) and autofs5.0.6 (oneiric), but the problem
persisted (on 32-bit Lucid). Then we tried autofs4.1.4 (karmic) - same
version as mentioned by dezibelz - and the problems went away (still on
32-bit Lucid). But it's obviously not ideal to be running an old
unsupported version like that...

Anyhow, bottom line is that it's not fixed yet.

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[Bug 905026] Re: Browser plugin not working after upgrade to Sun jre 1.6.0_26-b03

2012-01-25 Thread KennoVO
I would like to invite anyone reading this to consider installing the
(officially supported) package icedtea6-plugin and test whether their
frequently used Java web applications work with it. I know the open-
source Java implementations have been plagued by all kinds of
compatibility issues, but OpenJDK & IcedTea have been improving by leaps
and bounds, up to a point that even picky java apps often work with
them.

Indeed, Oracle picked a particularly bad timing for this questionable
move. I have no particular interest in pushing the open-source
alternatives but I feel Oracle should pay for this. Make them feel
they're rendering their newly acquired assets irrelevant by declaring
war on the open source community!

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[Bug 505085] Re: gnome-settings-daemon extensive disk usage

2011-07-16 Thread KennoVO
For anyone struggling with this problem and searching for workarounds, the 
upstream discussion is a good read. Apparently, it is possible to entirely 
disable the housekeeping mechanism that is responsible for this problem:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625609#c6

Doing so will
(1) disable purging of old thumbnails, so one either has to live with the 
thumbnail cache growing boundlessly, or implement a different workaround, such 
as the one suggested by Eric Link
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/505085/comments/13
(2) disable the low disk space check and warning - if your disk is nearly full, 
you'll have to keep an eye on it yourself
(3) possibly disable other housekeeping functionality - when experiencing 
additional side effects, it might be a good idea to feed them back to the 
community

Of course, this is still a (somewhat unsatisfactory) workaround, and
we're eagerly awaiting an actual fix from the upstream gnome-settings-
daemon maintenance team.

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[Bug 54191] Re: Mouse button click delayed

2011-01-24 Thread KennoVO
OK, can anyone check whether the problem is still present in Maverick?

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[Bug 54191] Re: Mouse button click delayed

2011-01-24 Thread KennoVO
Yes, my second post corrects the first. The fact that you're getting the
problem at all (I presume you're using Maverick?) pretty much confirms
Jakob Unterwurzacher's post of 2010-09-14 for the case of Maverick, so
we now know that "fix committed" is still the correct status. What I
don't fully understand is by what mechanism the importance was changed
from "Low" to "Unknown".


Also, that option in your xorg.conf should prevent the problem from
occurring at all, no matter what X version you're using, so something
doesn't make sense here. I think you *might* have used incorrect syntax
in your xorg.conf, where the correct syntax would be (note not only the
section but also "off" instead of "no"):

Section "InputClass"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
EndSection

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[Bug 54191] Re: Mouse button click delayed

2011-01-24 Thread KennoVO
Oops sorry, forget my previous post. In Jaunty and Lucid, X will start
up having the problem, but it will go away as soon as the middle button
is pressed (I'm on Lucid and use the middle button so often I forgot the
bug is still there).

Can anyone check whether the problem is still present in Maverick?

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[Bug 54191] Re: Mouse button click delayed

2011-01-24 Thread KennoVO
This bug was actually fixed as a side effect of the Ubuntu installer not
generating an xorg.conf anymore and letting X autodetect the hardware on
startup instead. X by default does not enable the Emulate3Buttons flag
(I speculate having  this flag enabled in the default xorg.conf file was
an Ubuntu-specific "feature"), so the problem is gone. I believe this
"fix" first occurred in Jaunty, and the first LTS version that has it is
Lucid. However, I also believe the Ubuntu upgrader keeps the old
xorg.conf file, so merely upgrading to a current version won't make this
problem (or the Emulate3Buttons flag that causes it) go away - this can
only be accomplished by editing xorg.conf or by installing the current
version from scratch.

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[Bug 544935] Re: netcat-openbsd exits too soon

2010-11-23 Thread KennoVO
I just wasted a full, extremely frustrating working day trying to find
why a complicated script involving in-house software and a tangle of
named pipes and background commands stopped working. Now it's after
midnight, I'm still at work, and I found out it's this. I'm right now
very tempted to give up on ubuntu.

Even worse, the -q workaround doesn't work for me; I had -q in my scripts all 
the time just for good measure. My server-side application is a sponge. Like 
the unix "sort" command, it first soaks up all the input, and only after it 
receives and EOF through the input channel, it processes the input and starts 
producing output. Traditional netcat behavior with -q x would be (from the 
client-side point of view):
- upon receipt of an EOF on stdin, close the output stream, putting the TCP 
connection in half-close state (this effectively transmits the EOF to the 
server, triggering my server-side application to start processing)
- wait x seconds (while data from the server-side application flows in)
- quit (in my case, it actually quits before the x seconds are over because the 
server closes its side of connection when it finishes processing)

Ubuntu's new borken netcat does the following instead:
- receive an EOF on stdin but don't let the remote host know (I speculate this 
is a "feature" of BSD netcat but it might also be another ubuntu bug)
- wait x seconds
- quit (only now an EOF is detected at the server side, but it's too late to 
send data back)

As you can see, my scripts are now broken beyond repair. My only
solution is installing netcat-traditional.

One of the great features of the traditional netcat was that it could function 
as a two-way unix pipe for TCP (hint: net-cat). Swallowing the EOF breaks this, 
as illustrated by the above example. I don't know what people were thinking 
when they changed this, but they surely haven't been reading the traditional 
netcat man page:
   You may be asking "why not just use telnet to connect to arbitrary 
ports?" Valid question, and
   here are some reasons.  Telnet has the "standard input EOF" problem,  so 
 one  must  introduce
   calculated delays in driving scripts to allow network output to finish.  
This is the main rea-
   son netcat stays running until the *network* side closes.
Further discussions about this issue:
http://oskt.secure-endpoints.com/man/knc.1.pdf
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/36139087/example-code-for-using-gawks--operators.aspx
nc6 seems to have the best solution: by default, it works like the "BSD-style" 
netcat, but it has the --half-close flag which makes it work like traditional 
netcat (and saves the day for me).
http://linux.die.net/man/1/nc6

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-10-01 Thread KennoVO
Ah, so you mean the new parameters are poorly documented???

BTW, xingmux only adds a header, it doesn't touch or affect the audio in any 
way:
http://www.gstreamer.net/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-ugly-plugins/html/gst-plugins-ugly-plugins-xingmux.html
It would be clearer and technically more accurate to refer to the different 
profiles as "lame" and "lamemp3enc" (if that's what you mean). Using ambiguous 
language is asking for being misinterpreted.

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[Bug 325200] Re: cannot switch keyboard layout after reconnecting keyboard

2010-10-01 Thread KennoVO
I can confirm this issue in Lucid. Here's a workaround (in a terminal):
setxkbmap cz
setxkbmap us

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-28 Thread KennoVO
I also submitted a patch upstream which processes the file 
gnome-audio-profiles.schemas.in.in , from which gnome-audio-profiles.schemas is 
generated at compile time. The package maintainer is free to choose whichever 
patch they find most convenient to use. ;)
http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=171324

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-28 Thread KennoVO
I attached a patch to be applied to /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-
audio-profiles.schemas

> What's the next step to get the bug solved?

The next step is to get this patch into Maverick. In an ideal world,
gnome-media should adopt it, then Ubuntu should simply pull it in from
the upstream repo's. However, there's no time for that anymore; the
gnome-media people haven't even looked at my new bug report yet, leave
alone discussed it and committed it, and Maverick comes out of beta and
into "release candidate" in 2 days, at which point they won't be willing
to change a lot anymore, leave alone pulling in new stuff from upstream.
Our only chance is that some friendly ubuntu developer is willing to
slip this in as a last-minute ubuntu-specific patch. I wouldn't hold my
breath; my best bet is that users will still be plagued with quality=6
until "Natty Narwhal" comes out. It's a shame because it's only a few
lines in gnome-audio-profiles.schemas (ignoring translation to other
languages than English for now); no recompiling required or anything.


> As to the new parameters being discussed, they still seem to
> lack definition
ABX results or else it's just your imagination.
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16295
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=ABX
Evaluation of sound quality is pathologically susceptible to listener bias. 
This is why there is a market for "$ ultra high quality S/PDIF cables" and 
other such snake oil.

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-28 Thread KennoVO
- This is not about bit rate, this is about quality. Getting a higher bit rate 
does not automatically equal getting a higher quality. In fact, botching the 
psychoacoustics model with a load of settings is a good recipe to get similar 
or higher bit rates but a lower quality.
- For assessing quality, one person's subjective listening tests mean next to 
nothing. It is for this reason that I kept my own perception of sound quality 
out of this discussion (I also have a set of pretty good headphones and trained 
ears, but that's simply not relevant). However, there are ways to objectively 
test quality, by using ABX methodology, long systematic testing, a large sample 
of listeners, and sounds statistical analysis. That 's exactly what the folks 
at hydrogenaudio.org did, and they came up with recommended settings for 
standalone LAME. They also found that it's easy to pull down the quality by 
giving LAME a bunch of extra switches (you'd have to go digging through the 
hydrogenaudio forums for that). For this reason, I will trust anything that 
gives output that is bitwise identical to standalone LAME with the 
hydrogenaudio recommended switches, and I will not trust anything else.  The 
"lamemp3enc" element falls into the former category, the "lame" element into 
the latter. Histograms of bitrates are irrelevant.
- Conicidentally, the same people at hydrogenaudio.org found that "Nowadays 
LAME is considered the best MP3 encoder at mid-high bitrates and features the 
best VBR model among MP3 implementations." Oh, and there's what they think 
about Xing: "The Xing (pronounced "zing") MP3  encoder was one of the fastest 
MP3 encoders. Of course that comes with a price, and quality wasn't on par with 
encoders tuned for quality instead of speed, like FhG Slowenc (Audioactive) and 
LAME."

So here we are, LAME is at the very least one of the best encoders out there, 
and nobody will miss the restricted ones that were thrown out. As FiloSottile 
said, the "lame" interface to liblame is buggy, the "lamemp3enc" interface is 
not. The only thing up for discussion is really how to call  "lamemp3enc" (and 
make sure it's implemented in the Maverick release). Here's my proposal again:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630779

CD Quality
--
audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=2 
! xingmux ! id3v2mux

Portable MP3 Player Quality
---
audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=6 
! xingmux ! id3v2mux

Voice Quality
-
audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lamemp3enc name=enc target=1 bitrate=56 
mono=true ! xingmux ! id3v2mux


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[Bug 388160] Re: user input -- mouse queuing flaw

2010-09-27 Thread KennoVO
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 54191 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/54191

@Fabio Marconi: I finally succeeded in installing Lucid (had some technical 
problems doing so and not a lot of time to experiment). The bug is now present 
when freshly starting X, but disappears as soon as the user presses the middle 
mouse button. You could have known this by looking at the Xorg bug of which 
this one is a duplicate 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/54191
(see post #10; just to make this 100% clear for other people, I'll try to mark 
this bug as a duplicate).
I personally use the middle mouse button so frequently (for pasting) that after 
installing Lucid, I didn't even notice the bug was still there, but there may 
be other users who don't use their middle mouse button so much and still have 
problems.

@daniel: judging by what you wrote, your written English is probably
better than a significant percentage of native English speakers (at
least here in the USA). I would classify your fluency as "advanced" to
"near-native". Don't reply to this to thank me; this is a site for
reporting bugs and there's no place for off-topic stuff.

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-27 Thread KennoVO
** Also affects: gnome-media via
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619642
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-27 Thread KennoVO
BruceR, the things you're saying are simply not true. This is complex
business and I can understand it confuses you, but please don't make
stuff up. Browse Gnome Bugzilla (links at the end of this post). Look at
the source code. Encode the same sample with gstreamer and with
standalone LAME and do a binary comparison on the outputs (a hex editor
might be helpful for this purpose).

What you need to understand is that the deprecated "lame" element and the new 
"lamemp3enc" element are simply two different gstreamer interfaces to the same 
liblame library. The "lame" element is called by specifying "lame" in the 
gstreamer pipeline, the "lamemp3enc" element is called by specifying 
"lamemp3enc" in the gstreamer pipeline. Not difficult so far. Now, here are the 
differences:
- The "lame" element tried to expose each and every LAME flag to the user, 
including many developmental flags that were never meant by the LAME developers 
to be set by end-users. Unfortunately, it had default values for each and every 
of these flags, and it would pass all of them on to liblame. This was harmful 
because (1) not all of the "lame" element's default values were sensible and 
(2) these flags override a number of settings that otherwise would be set 
internally by liblame at runtime depending on the situation.
- Specifically to cure this problem, Sebastian Dröge wrote the "lamemp3enc" 
element, at the request of (among others) Gabriel Bouvigne (LAME developer), 
David Joaquim (gnac developer) and myself. The "lamemp3enc" element is a much 
simpler interface, giving the user only the few options that were meant by the 
LAME developers to be set by end-users. Flags that are not specified by the 
user (in the gstreamer pipeline) are mostly left "undefined", allowing liblame 
to achieve its maximum quality by setting the corresponding settings internally 
to sensible values depending on the situation.

If you don't believe me, here's some background information. Please do your 
homework (ie. read each and every post *carefully*) before posting again.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494528
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-media/commit/?id=155f6ce6463a95146664b08b924d057679ca2f7c
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619642
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626285

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #619642
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619642

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #626285
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626285

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-27 Thread KennoVO
The gstreamer bug is fixed but the implementation of this fix depends on
sound juicer - updated remote watch accordingly.

** Changed in: sound-juicer
   Importance: Critical => Unknown

** Changed in: sound-juicer
   Status: Fix Released => Unknown

** Changed in: sound-juicer
 Remote watch: GNOME Bug Tracker #494528 => GNOME Bug Tracker #519882

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-26 Thread KennoVO
Bruce R, please read all the posts carefully. The "lame" element is known to be 
broken, and has been superseded by "lamemp3enc". Stop encouraging people to use 
the "lame" element.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494528
(FYI, Gabriel Bouvigne is one of the core LAME developers).

I did elaborate tests and not even once succeeded to make the "lame" element 
produce the same output as the standalone LAME program, because the "lame" 
element internally sets a whole series of developmental LAME flags to 
ill-conceived values. Ironically, the combination of flags you're suggesting 
are the ones I came up with in January 2009:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sound-juicer/+bug/195483/comments/22
Notice the last two sentences of my post. Yes, these flags seem to be well 
behaved if you only look at the output bitrates, but remember, bitrates are not 
everything. It's perfectly possible to encode at high bitrates and still have 
audible artifacts *cough* xingmp3encoder *cough*

Again, the "lame" element is officially deprecated; the "lamemp3enc"
element leaves all flags at their (good) default values and produces
outputs that are bitwise identical to standalone LAME.

Oh yeah, I still don't know what name=enc does, but it's definitely
*not* "ensuring use of the correct LAME plugin". My best guess so far is
that it sets some tag, which perhaps facilitates interfacing with some
other program.

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2010-09-25 Thread KennoVO
OK, this might be getting confusing. Just a summary for people who are
new to this bug, and some suggestions for future directions:

- People initially filed this as a sound-juicer bug, while *at that time*, it 
was actually a gstreamer bug; the "lame" element, which was responsible for 
encoding mp3 files by interfacing with the LAME mp3 library, was misbehaving.
- Rather than attempting to fix the "lame" element, which was entirely based on 
incorrect assumptions, Sebastian Dröge created a brand new LAME interface named 
"lamemp3enc", which is simple to use and in line with the LAME developer's UI 
guidelines.
http://lame.sourceforge.net/lame_ui_example.php
Around that time, I stopped following this bug, assuming that it would be fixed 
soon (I'm using RubyRipper with standalone lame for my own CD ripping purposes 
so I'm not directly affected).
- Now, more than a year later, "lamemp3enc" is indeed in 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse (which is good), but sound juicer still 
calls the obsolete and buggy "lame" element instead of "lamemp3enc" (which is 
inane).
- So, what we're looking at *right now* is a sound juicer bug (yes I consider a 
default setting that results in "data loss" - quality loss actually - a bug), 
and what we need is suggestions for default gstreamer pipe lines for 
sound-juicer.
- A good starting point for this would be hydrogeaudio.org - the guys over 
there are digital audio professionals and enthusiasts and they have done an 
incredible amount of ABX blind testing and debating to come up with 
recommendations for using lame.
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME
* For what most people would call "CD quality", they recommend VBR 
qualities 0,1,2 or 3 (according to taste).
* For "portable mp3 player quality", they recommend VBR qualities 4, 5 or 6
* For "voice quality" they recommend ABR with a target bitrate lower than 
100. The current juicer presets join the channels to mono when voice is 
selected, so in that case, a target bit rate of 56 seems sensible (ie. 
"lamemp3enc name=enc target=1 bitrate=56 mono=true" , thus mimicking  "--preset 
voice" of standalone lame).
- How to implement this all depend on how much of these internals one would 
want to expose to the user. While I myself would very much enjoy juicer giving 
me the option to choose between VBR and ABR and set the quality/bitrate myself 
(as FiloSottile seems to suggest), juicer's design philosophy seem to be to 
keep it simple and stupid. In that case picking one "CD quality" preset, one 
"portable mp3 player" preset, and one "voice" preset would be the way to go.
- Finally, the sound juicer devs (or whoever makes up these defaults) seem to 
be biased towards lower bitrates/qualities; the current "CD quality" preset 
attempts to use VBR quality 6, in which most people could clearly hear the 
artifacts giving good enough listening conditions.
- Anyway, to stay totally in line with juicer's design philosophy (however 
objectionable this may be), my final recommendation would be to use 
FiloSottile's "audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! ... ! xingmux ! 
id3v2mux" with the following lamemp3enc lines:
"CD quality": lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=2
"portable mp3 player quality": lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=6
"voice quality": lamemp3enc name=enc target=1 bitrate=56 mono=true

PS: I don't know why it would be needed to specify name=enc but it won't
hurt and a lot of people are doing it, so it might be good for
something.

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[Bug 388160] Re: user input -- mouse queuing flaw

2009-10-30 Thread KennoVO
Thanks huug for posting the workaround. What a relief!

Looking at the workaround, fixing this seems trivial (ubuntu's install
scripts should no longer add "Emulate3Buttons" to xorg.conf unless a a
2-button mouse is detected). Thus, it qualifies as a "papercut".
Changing status back to "confirmed".

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 54191
   Mouse button click delayed

** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 54191
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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2009-05-09 Thread KennoVO
Seems that I was was a bit too quick on the trigger with my "nobody
takes it serious" statement. Sebastian Dröge essentially fixed the bug
upstream, and I have good hopes that it won't be long before the fix
comes to an Ubuntu repository near you :)

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2009-04-10 Thread KennoVO
** Also affects: gstreamer via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494528
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2009-04-09 Thread KennoVO
They rightly marked that bug report "resolved" because (just like here on 
launchpad) it was filed as a Juicer bug, while it really is a bug in the 
gstreamer LAME plugin, not in Juicer. The actual bug that causes all our misery 
is here:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494528

The problem is just that they're not taking it very seriously.

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #494528
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494528

** Changed in: sound-juicer
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

** Changed in: sound-juicer
 Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #519882 => GNOME Bug Tracker #494528

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2009-03-25 Thread KennoVO
@Christian Niemeyer: I believe vbr-mean-bitrate actually requests ABR
encoding, which conflicts with vbr-quality=4, the switch that requests
VBR encoding.

@tigerdog: Nyquist's theorem dictates that the lowpass frequency needs
to be significantly lower than half of the bitrate (44100) to avoid
aliasing artefacts (which can be quite severe). I believe standalone
Lame internally sets the lowpass to 21000 when asked for CBR 320 (the
highest quality available), to 19500 when given -V 0 (the highest VBR
quality), and even lower for lower qualities. Anything higher than 21000
is considered unsafe with regard to aliasing.

@everyone: knowing just how many "internal" switches LAME has and how
unskillfully the defaults are set in the gstreamer plugin, it is very
unlikely to find a gstreamer command line that works as intended and
will pass rigorous listening tests. The issues with the above command-
lines perfectly illustrate my point. The only way to fix the problem is
at code level, and posting command-lines will just distract from this.

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[Bug 23573] Re: [Upstream] [hardy] OpenOffice embeds full fonts into pdf/ps files

2009-03-03 Thread KennoVO
In the spirit of open source, I would prefer the OOo developers to give
the user the choice of not embedding the fonts. They can bury it in some
menus and not set it by default so that it takes the users some effort
to shoot themselves in the foot.

That said, Ubuntu does offer a workaround: simply do File... Print...
and choose "PDF" as a printer. By default, the resulting file will be
dropped into the directory ~/PDF and will not contain embedded fonts. Of
course, you will be missing out on OOo's fancy PDF customization
options, but at least, you will have a tiny PDF file.

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[Bug 195483] Re: Sound Juicer - MP3 quality doesn't change

2009-01-03 Thread KennoVO
Things are actually worse than they seem. As a matter of fact, LAME should only 
be invoked with a handful of simple "master" options (like -V4), each of which 
activates myriads of internal encoder parameters. Manually setting those 
parameters through "advanced" switches will disrupt the carefully tuned balance 
between the different encoder parameters, and result in substandard MP3 files. 
See the LAME man pages and also
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME

Now, the problem is, the gstreamer LAME plugin implements an large number of 
these "advanced" switches, and sets them all to a default value, thereby 
completely overriding LAME's normal mode of operation. A list of these options 
can be obtained by typing:
gst-inspect-0.10 lame

The developers of gst-plugins-ugly are even aware of this, judging by the 
gstlame.c source code, which is ridden with comments like this:
/* FIXME 0.11: Remove all properties except the useful ones. Nobody knows what 
most
 * properties are doing and they're intended for LAME developers only.
 */

As a demonstration, I tried to find a combination of gstreamer lame settings 
that reproduce the behavior of invoking standalone LAME. After half a day of 
trying, I gave up. Conclusion: gstlame.c is broken. If you want to rip CDs to 
mp3 format on UBUNTU, use rubyripper instead of juicer
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Rubyripper#Installation_on_Ubuntu_8.04

For the die-hards that absolutely insist on using the gstreamer LAME plugin, 
please be aware that the workarounds in earlier posts in this thread are 
flawed. Most importantly, by setting vbr-max-bitrate=256 to values lower than 
320, they disregard the following recommendation from the LAME man page:
  The  use  of  -B  is  NOT RECOMMENDED.  A 128 kbps CBR bitstream,
  because of the bit reservoir, can actually have frames which  use
  as  many bits as a 320 kbps frame.  VBR modes minimize the use of
  the bit reservoir, and thus need to allow 320 kbps frames to  get
  the same flexibility as CBR streams.
The best combinations of flags I could come up with in my abovementioned 
experiment were:
If your most important goal is to minimize the risk of audible MP3 artefacts:
lame name=enc mode=0 vbr=4 vbr-min-bitrate=32 vbr-max-bitrate=320 vbr-quality=0
A good trade-off between file size and quality:
lame name=enc mode=1 vbr=4 vbr-min-bitrate=32 vbr-max-bitrate=320 vbr-quality=4
Note that I don't really recommend using these settings, as they don't do LAME 
any justice. Again, if you are serious about your mp3s, go with rubyripper or 
wait for the issues to be fixed in gstreamer 0.11

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[Bug 243617] Re: [upstream] [hardy] OpenOffice OpenGL transitions don't work on amd64 nvidia

2008-08-07 Thread KennoVO
Same problem here

Linux 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP i686 GNU/Linux

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, 
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, 
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, 
GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, 
GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, 
GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, 
GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB
GLX version: 1.3
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, 
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, 
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, 
GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 169.12
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[Bug 148511] Re: /bin/arch command missing in gutsy

2008-03-10 Thread KennoVO
To avoid breaking 3rd party shell scripts, a /bin/arch shell script that
invokes "uname -m" should be made part of util-linux .

** Changed in: util-linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Won't Fix => New

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[Bug 148511] Re: /bin/arch command missing in gutsy

2008-03-10 Thread KennoVO
Problem is, there are a lot of applications that come with shell scripts
that use /bin/arch, such as xammp, project looking glass, and MOE (the
Molecular Operating Environment). Eliminating /bin/arch breaks them all.
I really think the right thing to do is making the shell script that
invokes "uname -m" part of util-linux . Else you'll get a lot of
complaints from people using 3rd party software that relies on /bin/arch
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[Bug 81579] Re: Penguin commad crashes

2007-09-03 Thread KennoVO
This is a duplicate of Bug #76179

Here's a thorough analysis of the bug, including workaround:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=184437

The creators of penguin-command have incorporated said workaround in their 
version 1.6.11:
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~karlb/penguin-command/

Summary: the crash is caused by playing back a faulty music file, and the 
workaround consists of removing the file:
sudo rm /usr/share/games/penguin-command/sound/pennight.mod

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[Bug 76179] Re: penguin-command dies randomly

2007-09-03 Thread KennoVO
Here's a thorough analysis of the bug, including workaround:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=184437

The creators of penguin-command have incorporated said workaround in their 
version 1.6.11:
http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~karlb/penguin-command/

Summary: the crash is caused by playing back a faulty music file, and the 
workaround consists of removing the file:
sudo rm /usr/share/games/penguin-command/sound/pennight.mod

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[Bug 112092] Re: Bad substituted fonts in Feisty

2007-07-03 Thread KennoVO
This bug has caused severe problems for me, as I only discovered its
existence 20 minutes before having to use a Feisty machine to give a
presentation that was made on Edgy using a powerpoint template. I found
no better solution than exporting it to PDF on an edgy machine and using
that PDF file for the presentation. It was still not perfect and I
yelled at people and  started late. Foo, having a newer version of your
operating system make a core application behave different in a way that
it can't be used anymore would make even microsoft feel ashamed.

After reading the present bug description, I reverted to my edgy
fonts.conf, and the problem is now solved. However, not all end-users
will find this solution or be able to apply it (in time). I think it is
very important for Ubuntu's PR to solve this bug.

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[Bug 84591] Re: feisty 20070210/herd5 persistent mode doesn't work

2007-05-19 Thread KennoVO
Looks like I've been a bit too optimistic. I found a Herd 3 image and
applied the same procedure as described by Cal. The good news is that
persistence works, and that the logs written onto casper-rw indicate
that most of the hardware is correctly recognized and initialized. The
bad new is that I've also seen some ugly error messages passing by, and
that I don't get any login prompts in the virtual terminals. Which is
really bad because X fails to start as well (that happens with all
Ubuntu live CDs on my laptop). Sure, I could make a customized xorg.conf
file on the casper-rw filesystem and see what happens, but as copying
the vmlinuz and initrd.gz files is just a dirty hack, it may not merit
further effort. Besides, I'm too tired to continue. Moreover, I
discovered that my casper-rw partition is too small to make persistence
really useful (gconf immediately fills it). Hope you guys can work out a
cleaner solution for the persitence problem, though. I'm sure it would
make a lot of people very happy.

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[Bug 84591] Re: feisty 20070210/herd5 persistent mode doesn't work

2007-05-19 Thread KennoVO
Cal, that's interesting. The problem was not present in Feisty Herd 3.
If someone could copy vmlinuz and initrd.gz from a Herd 3 CD to /usb and
/usb/casper , it may cure the problem with less side-effects than you
experienced. I might even be a viable workaround altogether. It's really
annoying that there seems to be no way of getting my hands on a Herd 3
image.

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[Bug 84591] Re: feisty 20070210/herd5 persistent mode doesn't work

2007-05-19 Thread KennoVO
Mike, if there's anything anyone can do to help you getting that iso on
bittorrent, please ask. I'm going to mail a relative a live stick
monday, in the hope of getting them to use Linux, and it would be great
if they could use it in persistent mode.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/84591
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