[Bug 991347] Re: After upgrade to 12.04 name resolution does not work
I think I am having the same issue. I will start a new bug if needed though. For my fresh install 12.04 64 bit, no domain suffix information is being utilized. In other words, if I configure a static IP address in network manager and configure a "search domain" of my office domain, then simple host names do not resolve. Fully qualified domain names work properly. The same is true when I configure my wired LAN for DHCP. If my DHCP server provides option 135 Domain suffix search order and also 015 DNS Domain Name, I can ping by fully qualified domain only. Simple host name resolution for devices on the same domain as me fail in both scenarios. Ubuntu and Mint prior to 12.04 were working and still are working normally. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/991347 Title: After upgrade to 12.04 name resolution does not work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/991347/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Devs, please provide information on this, what is the current status? Is there any talk whatsoever of getting rid of the popup/popunder? Is there any proper method for us users to request the removal of popups/popunders? Is there any hope at all of getting this fixed? MPT, I think you are purposely being a little misleading and purposely missing the point about the popups. You keep mentioning the "click the button, what button" thing. It isn't even the issue. The issue is the popup/popunder. Fix the notification area, do whatever you have to do, just don't start programs without the user initiating it. It is never a good idea. Please if you can provide some insight on why this was thought to be a good idea, please let us know... it may change our opinion and/or we may not see the big picture. What are we missing that devs think they have the right to interrupt the user? As I see it even security updates don't warrant that level of "right now" interruption. I have actually had users get confused wondering what they did to cause it to start up. I'm tired of explaining it to everyone. I install a LARGE number of Ubuntu machines. These popups are driving users crazy and they are driving me crazy. If the unsupported hack goes away in future versions, the popups/popunders are enough of an annoyance to actually be forced to REMOVE update-notifier or update-manager altogether. Blogs are popping up all over the place with top ten lists of programs to install and things to do. The hack is the first thing on almost all of them. Are the devs taking notice of this? NO ONE is expected to make good decisions all the time. Everyone thinks this decision was a stinker. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 649026] Re: Fails to install with python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info does not exist
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 648695 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/648695 ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649026/+attachment/1644537/+files/Dependencies.txt -- Fails to install with python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649026 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 649026] [NEW] Fails to install with python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info does not exist
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 648695 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/648695 Public bug reported: This package fails to install with the following error: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist- packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 Package: python-virtkey 0.60.0-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Mon Sep 27 11:39:23 2010 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Alpha amd64 (20100831.2) ProcEnviron: LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: virtkey ** Affects: virtkey (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug maverick -- Fails to install with python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info does not exist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649026 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
If anyone ever works on this issue here is a pure layman observation of my 4 machines that are affected. The fastest of my machines makes it to the desktop the most consistently without everything being themed. It is almost 100% of the time arriving at the desktop without the panels being themed. All 4 of my affected machines are brand new Core I7 machines with SSD's all running nvidia graphics. Is it possible this is a boot timing issue? Such as themes settings trying to apply before the theme engine is completely up and running. -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
I am still having this problem as of the latest updates for Oct. 7th. I have 3 laptops and a desktop all installed at various points of Maverick testing and all of them have the same issue. It happens sometimes for the first user of a system, but happens 100% of the time if a second user logs on using "Switch from " option. The second user on the machine will never get their theme. -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 776567] Re: periodically kded4 uses 100% of CPU, KDE desktop stops responding
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 755608 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/755608 I'm running 64 bit Natty Kubuntu but with KDE 4.6.3 from PPA (ppa :kubuntu-ppa) and still getting the same issue. Also Nvidia video chipset here. My Kubuntu was a fresh install, not upgraded. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kde4libs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/776567 Title: periodically kded4 uses 100% of CPU, KDE desktop stops responding -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
Problem seemed fixed after the updates that came out on 8/28 but the issue still is not resolved. Themes are still not applied to the panel, icons and firefox but seem to be working for window borders. ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released => Incomplete -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
Versions of most of the involved packages have changed. I am going to try and run another report. -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
That is nice to hear. That almost positively indicates that it is a race condition. Fast processor + fast hard drive means the systems are getting to the desktop before some process is ready. Hopefully that is enough information to pique the interest of a developer. Robert (Getut) From: Mike Roberts <625...@bugs.launchpad.net> To: rtklu...@ngkceramics.com Date: 11/17/2010 02:26 PM Subject: [Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed Sent by: boun...@canonical.com More information I'd like to add that, based on getut and aidanjt's comments, i tried a different hard drive in my laptop. I experienced this bug when using an Intel SSD, model number SSDSA2M080G2GC. Changed to an older 7200 RPM Samsung hard drive, reinstalled 10.10 x64 and all items (panels included) are themed properly. Be happy to help test to provide more info. Let me know. Mike PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use of the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 687366] [NEW] gdm crash when x11vnc used with VMWare Workstation 7.1.3
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: x11vnc I have 2 64 bit Ubuntu Maverick desktops that have VMWare Workstation 7.1.3 installed. Because these are corporate machine, we also run the x11vnc package (as opposed to the Ubuntu native VNC) so that we can connect to our Ubuntu linux desktops even if no one is in front of them or if they are sitting at the gdm sign on. The problem is that as of Maverick Meerkat, this combination of software crashes gdm when a virtual machine is started. If x11vnc is disabled, then a VM can be started with no problem. I can start a virtual machine and then gdm crashes back to the login screen. Both programs work with no problems separately. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 Package: x11vnc 0.9.10-1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-23.41-generic 2.6.35.7 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-23-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Dec 8 10:21:21 2010 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Alpha amd64 (20100831.2) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: x11vnc ** Affects: x11vnc (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug maverick -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/687366 Title: gdm crash when x11vnc used with VMWare Workstation 7.1.3 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 687366] Re: gdm crash when x11vnc used with VMWare Workstation 7.1.3
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[Bug 625670] [NEW] Not all desktop items are themed
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-settings-daemon After every reboot or logoff/logon or even a user switch, the selected themes do not get applied to all desktop components. In my case, window decorations, borders and window buttons are properly themed, but the top and bottom panel and nautilus, desktop icons, and firefox buttons are the default gnome theme. I can get my theme to completely apply by finding gnome-settings-daemon task and killing it, then running it again. The panels will be properly themed then, but it seems nothing is getting nautilus, the desktop icons, or firefox buttons to receive the theme. I am running the newest Nvidia proprietary drivers offered to me by Maverick, 256.44. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 Package: gnome-settings-daemon 2.30.2-0ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-19.26-generic 2.6.35.3 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-19-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Sat Aug 28 00:44:54 2010 ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Alpha amd64 (20100824) ProcEnviron: LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gnome-settings-daemon XsessionErrors: (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1772): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed (nautilus:1779): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion `value != NULL' failed (gnome-appearance-properties:3975): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_display_sync: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed (gnome-appearance-properties:3975): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_display_sync: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed ** Affects: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug maverick -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670/+attachment/1524296/+files/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670/+attachment/1524297/+files/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670/+attachment/1524298/+files/ProcStatus.txt -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 625670] Re: Not all desktop items are themed
Nightly updates for Aug 27th fixed this problem. ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Status: New => Fix Released -- Not all desktop items are themed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 634067] [NEW] Alt-F2 smb:/// is not working
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gvfs Alt-F2 then smb:// is not mounting SMB shares. The connection times out. Shares are working from other linux and windows workstations. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 Package: gvfs-backends 1.6.3-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-20.29-generic 2.6.35.4 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-20-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Sep 9 09:59:29 2010 EcryptfsInUse: Yes ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-smb InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Alpha amd64 (20100831.2) ProcEnviron: SHELL=/bin/bash LANG=en_US.utf8 SourcePackage: gvfs ** Affects: gvfs (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug maverick -- Alt-F2 smb:/// is not working https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/634067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 634067] Re: Alt-F2 smb:/// is not working
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/634067/+attachment/1560778/+files/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/634067/+attachment/1560779/+files/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/634067/+attachment/1560780/+files/ProcStatus.txt -- Alt-F2 smb:/// is not working https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/634067 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Am I totally misunderstanding this issue??? As I understand it / complained / bug reported... I think most people don't care whether the notification comes in the form of the new notify- osd system or the old way with the orange spiked ball or red arrow that show up on the panel. The issue I think MOST people are quite irritated with is the decision to go with a popup or popunder which is just plain evil. I don't know of anyone... ever who has liked such a thing. Secondary to that issue is that there is no PERSISTENT notification of updates once that window is closed which is most suredly will be. I think everyone would say whole-heartedly... go ahead with the notify- osd system, but don't open a window and don't remove the persistent notification on the panel. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 481283] Re: xsane and xscanimage crash on 64bit karmic with epson2 driver
Same crash here with Epson RX500 printer and 64bit Karmic Workstation. I have deleted ~/.sane and tried running as root and still segmentation fault. -- xsane and xscanimage crash on 64bit karmic with epson2 driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/481283 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
>The issue of trying to guess when is the best time to interrupt people is a tricky problem for notifications in general. >Unfortunately, "never" is not a viable choice for a mass-market OS on an Internet- connected computer. If you have >specific suggestions of heuristics we could use to choose more appropriate times, we'd be delighted to hear them. MPT... "never" IS a perfectly valid answer to INTERRUPTING a user. Most everyone agrees that "never" is a bad thing when it comes to never NOTIFYING a user and that is the rub with this whole deal. An icon on the desktop subtly notifies the user and is persistent. A window INTERRUPTS the user and takes choice away from the user. That is bad now and always will be. Even as important as a security update is, it is never important enough to open a window unsolicited. Bad sectors on the hard drive, imminent crash, overheating, those types of things would warrant a true interruption. Updates, even security related, just simply do not warrant that immediate attention and force. If people are too unaware to investigate a new icon on the tray or to ignore it for months after it shows up, they deserve a compromised machine. Do not punish 99% of the users out there with forced, aggravating, evil unsolicited windows because of the few who refuse to acknowledge updates. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
MPT.. so if I am hearing this right... popup/popunder is here to stay and there is no amount of griping in any fashion, organized or unorganized that can get that virus... erm feature removed going forward? -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
To use automotive analogies in this... If our check engine light comes on our car taking us in a straight line to the dealership, not following roads, going straight through forest, lakes, streams etc. Its just ludicrous devs hijacking the desktop with unsolicited pop-ups. Update manager is going to become a virus for versions moving forward. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Although I do agree that some of the comments are a bit harsh, I also fear that if enough people do not squawk, and squawk loudly, this will be dropped. Many of the devs have come on here and shrugged this off with the statement, "You have a way to get the old functionality back so what is the big deal." How long will the ability to get the old functionality back remain if no one squawks? If no one squawks, will the gconf hack still work in the next release or two? The big deal is that the old functionality wasn't broken. Why change it. If we squawk loudly enough can we get the ludicrous idea of a POPUP or POPUNDER crushed under a train where it belongs and go back to the nice unobtrusive but persistent notification? I don't care if a popup or popunder comes up and does my entire days work for me automatically. If I didn't open the window, it shouldn't be there. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Plain and simple... linux is always about choice. People are not going to update their system when the almighty and evil popup/popunder opens and says they should do it. It will almost 100% of the time be an unwanted annoyance window that open at unwanted times and aggravates users instead of helping them. You say that there are other instances of applications that open unwanted windows also. The same goes for them. Justifying bad interface design with other bad interface design is just laughable. There is literally no instance other than critical alarms where unsolicited windows are a good thing. Persistent notifications are the obvious way to handle it. Can anyone give a definite answer on how long the gconf command to revert to old behavior will be supported going forward? It is aggravating enough having a popup/popunder as the default option but will be utterly infuriating if it becomes the ONLY option in the future. I have at built and/or upgraded 5-6 machines to Jaunty for people and have been setting them all to the old behavior at the users request after showing them new and old behavior. Even total greenies to linux have been agreeing that they didn't want unsolicited windows showing up whenever the computer felt like it. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Plain and simple... linux is always about choice. People are not going to update their system when the almighty and evil popup/popunder opens and says they should do it. It will almost 100% of the time be an unwanted annoyance window that open at unwanted times and aggravates users instead of helping them. You say that there are other instances of applications that open unwanted windows also. The same goes for them. Justifying bad interface design with other bad interface design is just laughable. There is literally no instance other than critical alarms where unsolicited windows are a good thing. Persistent notifications are the obvious way to handle it. Can anyone give a definite answer on how long the gconf command to revert to old behavior will be supported going forward? It is aggravating enough having a popup/popunder as the default option but will be utterly infuriating if it becomes the ONLY option in the future. I have at built and/or upgraded 5-6 machines to Jaunty for people and have been setting them all to the old behavior at the users request after showing them new and old behavior. Even total greenies to linux have been agreeing that they didn't want unsolicited windows showing up whenever the computer felt like it. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
With logic like John Clemens writes above I can't believe MPT is arguing some of the points that are being argued. I'm beginning to think this is just a really long lasting aprils fools joke. The points MPT is making are so fundamentally flawed it can't be anything but that. Are you really advocating coding Ubuntu to the lowest common denominator? How is aggravating a user EVER a good thing? Machines in production environments get updated when the admins say they get updated and after testing. Why should we have to put up with windows popping up constantly to nag us. How can that even be remotely defended? My first couple of posts to this thread I was certain I was missing some logic on why this change was made or something was incomplete with the functionality but the more I have learned, this popup/under issue is intended to remain once its at final form. The more I learn on this, the more upset/confused with the decision I get, I just can't even comprehend the points that MPT is trying to argue to support this. I think I've made my last post on this one. But PLEASE... devs take user feedback on this. Yes, this site is going to be biased to those who don't like something, but how many design decisions have brought this level of negative feedback on launchpad? How many design decisions/changes in the past actually appear to the user as a bug? And again... unsolicited popups/popunders can never be justified except for critical notifications where interrupting the user is unavoidable. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
I run many Ubuntu stations in a production environment and my users are heavily limited in what they can and can't do. Machines sign on automatically and users are NOT given the password for the account. All updates are done via script or manually via SSH from IT. Now with this version I am either going to have to hack around a poorly thought out update or put up with a million questions from users about why update manager keeps opening up and the users can't do anything with it other than close it. How we are NOTIFIED of updates is really irrelevant and most people probably won't care one way or another. But opening update manager or any other program automatically is not a notification. It is the beginning of the update process itself. Notification should be DISTINCTLY different than the actual update process. It should be noticeable but not obnoxious. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
Matthew and BUGabundo, in our environment since multiple users were not needed, we chose to go with a single user install with automatic signon...so it is the default and only user account on the system. This means it is admin but the users are NOT given the password for the account. I use modified hal policies to lock out removeable drives, CD's and DVDs. We SSH into the boxes with the same user account to do updates either manually or scripted. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / new update-manager behaviour is annoying
In what way will the way the pop under change in the way it is presented? It really doesn't matter how it is presented, if it pops up in the "users" space it is going to be hated by most people. Media center PC's, presentations, people doing real work will always find it a huge annoyance if it uses the user program space (the desktop) in any fashion short of checking that the PC has been idle for at least a couple of hours and that no media types are playing. boun...@canonical.com wrote: > > > mac_v wrote: > >> The notification area icon is *not* returning... >> > > That's not true. The notification area icon is probably not returning > for the next release of Ubuntu, but in 2 or 3 years time, when > "everybody" will have forgotten, there's nothing to prevent it to be > reintroduced as a groundbreaking "new" feature in Ubuntu. It just needs > the "designer" to change his mind (unless the idea to "test" it in > Jaunty was just for show, and the "designer" actually only care to get > his feature implemented), or just move on to another job. It might take > more time, maybe 5 to 10 years, but saying it will not return is a bit > far-fetched. > > And saying that saving 20x20 pixel (the notification area icon) is an > issue only to waste far more space on the bottom panel (Window List) and > on the desktop is certainly a design issue that needs to be rethought. > Since it doesn't use the notification icon, the new behavior actually > has to use the Windows List AND the desktop as huge notification areas - > they're not designed for this task, and misusing desktop features is > certainly a bigger design issue. > > -- > [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / new > update-manager behaviour is annoying > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: New > Status in NULL Project: Fix Released > Status in “update-notifier” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix > Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix > > Bug description: > I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome > notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed > by: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html > > Specific messages worth reading are: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html > > Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is: > > * When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show > them (plus any other available updates) within a day. > > * When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and > show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last > opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates > were actually installed then). > > * When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open > automatically at all. > > Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the > entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently > understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use > it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update > notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, > perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than > use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended > functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the > thread. > > Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people > are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in > them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly > desirable, won't it? > > In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon > should be displayed when updates are available. > > > > The window currently opens far too often when security updates are > available: this is because of bug 369198, which is awaiting testing before > it can be fixed in Ubuntu 9.04. > > > > To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour: > > gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false > > (Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.) > > To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, > use this: > > gconftool -s --type int > /apps/update-notifier/regular_auto_launch_interval 0 > > > -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / new update-man
[Bug 341874] Re: xsane: WARNING: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated.
I'm getting this same error on Karmic final 64 bit desktop with an Epson Stylus Photo RX500 all in one device. -- xsane: WARNING: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341874 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
