[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-02 Thread David Henningsson
It seems like this is already known in the medibuntu community, see bug
#591886.

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread ttoine
What is the status of RME and Echo sound cards firmwares ?

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread Reed Meyer
Hi.  I'm getting a conflict in Ubuntu Update Manager (Ubuntu 10.04):

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-firmware_1.34.1_all.deb: trying to
overwrite '/lib/firmware/asihpi/dsp2400.bin', which is also in package
alsa-firmware 0

Apparently, the conflict is with alsa-firmware
0:1.0.17-0medibuntu2.8.10.1.

Thanks.
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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread Reed Meyer
Hi.  I'm getting a conflict in Ubuntu Update Manager (Ubuntu 10.04):

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-firmware_1.34.1_all.deb: trying to
overwrite '/lib/firmware/asihpi/dsp2400.bin', which is also in package
alsa-firmware 0

Apparently, the conflict is with alsa-firmware
0:1.0.17-0medibuntu2.8.10.1.

Thanks.
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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread Reed Meyer
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Incomplete

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Released = Incomplete

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread ttoine
alsa-firmware from medibuntu can be uninstalled if linux-firmware 
include all firmwares for audio sound cards.

As alsa-firmware is not distributed in restricted by Ubuntu, Medibuntu 
hosts it with several other restricted codecs or applications. If 
linux-firmware can replace it, the more simple is to notify Medibuntu to 
delete alsa-firmware from their repository.

Toine

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread David Henningsson
I hope we will be able to incorporate (almost) all of alsa-firmware into
linux-firmware for Maverick, this is a task on this blueprint:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-maverick-misc

As for the installation failure, I think this is a case where Medibuntu
should adapt, by removing asihpi from linux-firmware.

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Incomplete = Fix Released

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Fix Released

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread David Henningsson
Sorry, that should have been Medibuntu should remove asihpi from alsa-
firmware. Does anybody here have a contact with Medibuntu and can
propose that they do so?

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread David Henningsson
Sorry, that should have been Medibuntu should remove asihpi from alsa-
firmware. Does anybody here have a contact with Medibuntu and can
propose that they do so?

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-07-01 Thread ttoine
http://medibuntu.org/contact.php

But it will need a complete repackaging, and I am not sure they will do 
it for Lucid, as they are not updating so often. The best is certainly 
to include all alsa-firmware in linux-firmware, so alsa-firmware could 
be depreciated and so, Medibuntu will not package it anymore.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-06-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package linux-firmware - 1.34.1

---
linux-firmware (1.34.1) lucid-proposed; urgency=low

  [ Chase Douglas ]

  * Add AudioScience ASI series audio device firmware
-LP: #557037
  * Add RealTek RTL8192E firmware
-LP: #508746
  * Update firmware from rt2870sta
-LP: #580926

  [ Tim Gardner ]

  * radeon: add evergreen family microcode.
-LP: #560306
 -- Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com   Mon, 24 May 2010 17:51:17 
-0400

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-06-28 Thread Chase Douglas
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Chase Douglas (chasedouglas)

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted linux-firmware into lucid-proposed, the package will build now
and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Also affects: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-06-09 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/lucid-proposed/linux-firmware

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-05-28 Thread Chase Douglas
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-05-26 Thread Chase Douglas
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-05-26 Thread Chase Douglas
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-21 Thread Andy Whitcroft
** Description changed:

+ SRU Justification:
+ 
+ Impact: The firmware is needed for users to be able to use the sound
+ card. Without the firmware a user would have to go without device
+ support or download the firmware from elsewhere.
+ 
+ How Addressed: Adding the firmware to the linux-firmware package fixes
+ the issue.
+ 
+ Patch: Please see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cndougla/linux-
+ firmware.git;a=commit;h=cf6291f0e49a854819df84b1b64f460dfdb97b86.
+ 
+ Reproduction: Boot with latest Lucid image on affected hardware. The
+ sound card will not function.
+ 
+ Regression Potential: Practically zero as the firmware is new and does
+ not overwrite existing files. The firmware will need to be removed from
+ the alsa-firmware package maintained by Medibuntu when this is uploaded,
+ but that's outside of the scope of Ubuntu.
+ 
+ ===
+ 
  Binary package hint: linux-firmware
  
  Eliot, Chase, I've started this new bug to track the progress of the
  asihpi firmware inclusion. The manufacturer (i e Eliot) has expressed
  interest and willingness to help make support out-of-the-box support for
  asihpi possible.
  
  Current status is that
  
  * there is not a good enough license information for asihpi in alsa-
  firmware, so we can't move it right over. I'm sure Eliot can help sort
  this out
  
  * Eliot has stressed the importance of matching kernel driver and
  firmware version, so this has to be checked as well.
  
  I'm not a license expert, but I'm optimistic that you two will be able
  to work things out together.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-20 Thread Chase Douglas
** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-20 Thread Chase Douglas
SRU Justification:

Impact: The firmware is needed for users to be able to use the sound
card. Without the firmware a user would have to go without device
support or download the firmware from elsewhere.

How Addressed: Adding the firmware to the linux-firmware package fixes
the issue.

Patch: Please see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cndougla/linux-
firmware.git;a=commit;h=cf6291f0e49a854819df84b1b64f460dfdb97b86.

Reproduction: Boot with latest Lucid image on affected hardware. The
sound card will not function.

Regression Potential: Practically zero as the firmware is new and does
not overwrite existing files. The firmware will need to be removed from
the alsa-firmware package maintained by Medibuntu when this is uploaded,
but that's outside of the scope of Ubuntu.

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-10 Thread EliotBlennerhassett
David Henningsson wrote:
 @Eliot: To try to find an answer to the question above, I went looking
 for the asihpi kernel driver in Linus' tree (
 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree
 ), but I couldn't find it there. Is it there (i e I didn't search
 enough), or do you know why it isn't there?

Sigh.  asihpi driver comes from alsa-driver git repository.  It is not
in alsa-kernel repo, which AFAIK is what Linus pulls from for his tree.

So, it seems that out of tree drivers from alsa-driver repo are packaged
into the -backports- package.

As for why this driver is not in alsa-kernel, you might have to ask the
ALSA maintainers that question directly.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-10 Thread Chase Douglas
Now that I see the driver is available in l-b-m-alsa shipped in the main
section, I think this firmware is suitable for linux-firmware. I will
work to get it into 10.04, but I don't think it will get in before the
release.

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Won't Fix = Triaged

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-10 Thread Chase Douglas
Now that I see the driver is available in l-b-m-alsa shipped in the main
section, I think this firmware is suitable for linux-firmware. I will
work to get it into 10.04, but I don't think it will get in before the
release.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-10 Thread Chase Douglas
Now that I see the driver is available in l-b-m-alsa shipped in the main
section, I think this firmware is suitable for linux-firmware. I will
work to get it into 10.04, but I don't think it will get in before the
release.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-09 Thread David Henningsson
So then the question is, why isn't snd-asihpi.ko included in the linux-
image-* packages, since that is what is currently keeping Chase from
adding the firmware? How could there be a difference between the linux-
image-* and the alsa backports modules here?

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-09 Thread David Henningsson
So then the question is, why isn't snd-asihpi.ko included in the linux-
image-* packages, since that is what is currently keeping Chase from
adding the firmware? How could there be a difference between the linux-
image-* and the alsa backports modules here?

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-09 Thread David Henningsson
@Eliot: To try to find an answer to the question above, I went looking
for the asihpi kernel driver in Linus' tree (
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree
), but I couldn't find it there. Is it there (i e I didn't search
enough), or do you know why it isn't there?

I believe that's the base for Ubuntu's sound driver tree, so having the
kernel driver there is important.

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-08 Thread ttoine
David,

Thanks for this answer. Please consider that for the alsa-firmware in
Medibuntu, we already have done a licence check: contacting vendors,
checking that every file needed is included, and so, wipe out some of
the firmwares.

The current version in Lucid + Medibuntu of alsa-firmware, alsa-tools,
and alsa-tools-gui work out of the box for the cards I can test (RME and
Echo)

Perhaps it can be a good start to use the Medibuntu work to include the
firmware into linux-firmware. Then, alsa-firmware should be depreciated
for Ubuntu, and perhaps other distributions.

Think that not a lot of sound cards still need firmware, but only
professional sound cards, used for exemple with -rt kernel and Ardour at
lowlatency for audio recording and producing. It is a way to give a
credibility to Ubuntu and Gnu/Linux in that domain to make this kind of
hardware work out of the box.

Toine

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Re: [Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-08 Thread ttoine
Eliot,

Is it possible that other sound card firmwares may be already included
in linux-backports-modules ? So perhaps it is not necessary to maintain
alsa-firmware in Medibuntu ?

Toine

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread EliotBlennerhassett
Thanks David.

there is not a good enough license information for asihpi in alsa-
firmware, so we can't move it right over. I'm sure Eliot can help sort
this out

I expect I can.  The licence in alsa-firmware was considered 'good
enough' at the time,

For reference, here it is.
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-firmware.git;a=blob;f=asihpi/licence.txt;h=31b0f0d7bdf12b230a9a36a044c80e8b3e0ee063;hb=HEAD

If you suggest what would be good enough,  I'll put it to the powers
that be at AudioScience

Eliot has stressed the importance of matching kernel driver and
firmware version, so this has to be checked as well.

While it is not always strictly true that the versions must be an exact
match, this is the ideal state to aim for. And from time to time things
change so that DSP code version  X will not work with driver code = X.

FYI our windows driver installers always include the equivalent of
control application, userspace libs, kernel drivers and DSP firmware all
with the same version.  In this environment, a 'stable api' is the
interface to the userspace libs, not the interface between driver and
DSP,

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread Chase Douglas
I just took a look at the current license, and it's good enough for
inclusion in linux-firmware. I'll work on moving this over. Note that
when the package is uploaded, the firmware will need to be removed from
the alsa-firmware package to prevent file conflcts.

Thanks for bringing this forward!

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Chase Douglas (chasedouglas)

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread Chase Douglas
I was assuming that the driver for this firmware was in kernel or at
least a part of an Ubuntu package somewhere. I haven't been able to find
anything other than a link to the beta drivers tarball at [1] (the
current drivers link is broken). Is this available in an Ubuntu package
somewhere?

I'm fairly new to Ubuntu firmware maintenance, so I'm not positive of
the best route if the driver is not included in any main Ubuntu
packages. I will look into this and respond when I have more details.

[1] http://www.audioscience.com/internet/download/linux_drivers.htm

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Incomplete

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread David Henningsson
Now I remember what I found peculiar about the license. It is the line
that says Distributable under GPL which confuses me. GPL, as in Gnu
General Public License, is a license which requires the source code to
be distributed (or made available) - but there is no source code (at
least not any source code to the firmware) included. Most distributions
- including Ubuntu - accept binary-only firmware, so I suggest this line
should be removed from the license. (With the usual I'm not a lawyer
disclaimer.)

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread ttoine
so it means that alsa-firmware will be a sub-package of linux-firmware
??

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread Chase Douglas
@David:

Yes, I agree that the GPL statement should be removed. Eliot, any issues
with that?

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread Chase Douglas
@ttoine:

I'm not sure where you got that impression. Can you be more specific?
The alsa-firmware package is not part of Ubuntu even, so there should be
no hard coded interaction between the two.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread David Henningsson
@Toine: The long term goal is that linux-firmware should include all
(legal parts) of alsa-firmware, so that alsa-firmware could be
obsoleted. That's at least the impression I got when I talked to the
upstream maintainer of linux-firmware.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread Chase Douglas
After conferring with others on the kernel team, it's best if we only
include firmware in linux-firmware for drivers that are provided by some
Ubuntu package. Since there does not appear to be a package providing
this driver in any of the Lucid archives, I feel we shouldn't include
the firmware in our package. Here's my own suggestion for this case:

1. Work with the community to get the driver included in an Ubuntu package.
2. Send the firmware and license to David Woodhouse for his firmware tree, 
which we pull from. He may have a different set of standards, and this would be 
a separate path to getting the firmware into Ubuntu.

Of course, if you get step 1 done, then we can reconsider putting the
firmware directly into our linux-firmware package. I hope you can
understand that from a maintainability and liability aspect, its best
for us to focus on providing firmware for which we provide drivers out
of the box.

In the end, you are always free to continue providing the firmware and
drivers outside of the Ubuntu archives as part of medibuntu or as part
of a personal package archive.

** Changed in: linux-firmware (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Won't Fix

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread EliotBlennerhassett
@Chase -
In hardy it was in 
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/asihpi/snd-asihpi.ko
In package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic
I assumed that this carried on for later versions.

Aha, Now its brother snd-pdplus is in linux-backports-modules-alsa-KVER

We have no issues with removing the GPL statement from the licence.

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-07 Thread EliotBlennerhassett
oops I didn't look hard enough

Driver is provided by linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.32-19-generic

/lib/modules/2.6.32-19-generic/updates/alsa/snd-asihpi.ko

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[Bug 557037] Re: snd-asihpi firmware could be included in linux-firmware

2010-04-06 Thread David Henningsson
I've subscribed Eliot and Chase to this bug now. Chase, if you feel like
this isn't something for you, feel free to unsubscribe yourself or
(better) reassign it to someone else.

Thanks!

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