[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Closing the bug because of no reponse. Please reopen if this is still an issue. ** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Any news about this? In intrepid the network-manager now has checkboxes as mentioned by Motin. ** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
This bug's name and/or summary needs to be renamed to reflect what actually is the reported complaint... Or split, depending on what we are aiming at. Maybe: "Radio buttons should be changed to checkboxes or other symbol in nm-applet" ? However, having checkboxes would make it necessary to first add support to connect through several NICs at once, as requested in Bug #96103 -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
reconnecting should be possible by just clicking a second time on the same network ... none won't happen for network-manager 0.6.5. for 0.7 (hopefully in hardy) we might take a look though. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I like the idea of none being in the list. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
The discussion is veering away from the initial complaint -- where the user's action may cause an unintentional disconnect from the network. Fortunately, there is a single solution to everyone's problem: Add a RadioButton for a "None" option. This gives us the ability to: - Select None to disconnect from a wireless network that is already connected Once we have a "None" option, that is how a user can "reconnect" as well: First select None to disconnect, then select the the wireless network they wanted to reconnect to. Additionally, having a "None" fixes another quirk. Currently when starting up and no wireless networks are connected, none of the RadioButton options is selected. Having a "None" button clears this up as well. Here's more to my argument about "reconnect" being a misuse of a RadioButton interface: "A gtk.RadioButton is used to give the user a choice of one of many options." I took that from the GNOME Documentation Library: http://library.gnome.org/devel/pygtk/2.12/class-gtkradiobutton.html Using a RadioButton interface to do more than a simple "choose one of many options" makes the user interface inconsistent. This causes an inconsistency even within the NetworkManager app -- as selecting a RadioButton for the VPN Connections option that is already connected DOES NOT reconnect to that VPN (see Bug# 141568 where I reported this inconsistency). -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
The reason that I suggested right clicking ask if you want to disconnect the network is because I accidentally connected to my neighbors wireless and I wanted to disconnect from that one and not connect to another but still have the wireless enabled. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
ruewan, isn't it enough for that to just uncheck "enable wireless" on the right-click menu? -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I also want to a way to disconnect from a wireless network that I am already connected to. Both right and left clicking on an active connection resets the connection. Maybe left clicking should ask you if you want to disconnect from the network. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I've found that I often want an explicit disconnect button - to make it so I'm not connected to any network. I think that there should be a menu option "Disconnect from all networks" as a radio button, and that selecting the same radio button twice should do nothing. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I've found that I often want an explicit disconnect button - to make it so I'm not connected to any network. I think that there should be a menu option "Disconnect from all networks" as a radio button, and that selecting the same radio button twice should do nothing. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Murray, I agree. I left the bug open for that reason. I just classified it as not critical for the feisty release. :) -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
> Since there is no other reason why you'd want to click on an already active connection, this is no big deal IMHO You might not think that people have a reason to do it, but they do it anyway. A confirmation dialog would prevent this problem, and is more forgiving than just calling it user error. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
> Indeed I find this very handy to reconnect I agree, that capability is desirable to have. My problem is with the user interface choice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_button identifies a radio button as a graphical user interface widget that allows the user to choose one of a predefined set of options. Adding a "reset" action to the select option's on-click event is not intuitive, in my opinion. I understand why a designer might make that choice -- "less is more". And I would agree with that in most areas. However in this instance performing a reset to a network connection that is currently in-use is annoying at best, and harmful in some cases. So that is why I believe a reset needs to be a separate action I would perform INTENTIONALLY, not accidentally because I happened to click on an already-selected network interface. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Indeed I find this very handy to reconnect if the current connection has died for some reason, and that's in fact the intention. Since there is no other reason why you'd want to click on an already active connection, this is no big deal IMHO. Stephen, the 'multiple active connections' issue is bug 96103, -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86186 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I think it should ask if this is what I want. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I am not so sure about the intentional behavior. It disconnects and reconnects when you try to configure the dial-up modem as well. Of course, the dial-up modem configuration does not work in system->admin->network and that's another issue, but trying to configure it should not cause the ethernet connection to disconnect and reconnect every time. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Yes, this is the intended behavior. I find it very useful the way it is as when a DHCP server is not functioning correctly, you can just reselect the network to reinitialize and reconnect to it. If the ability to reconnect by choosing the network again is removed, a repair button would need to be added to provide this functionality. I think it is a bit more integrated the way it is now rather then having a separate repair function, like Windows has. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Chris, you can use both connections at once. You can receive a signal from the wired NIC and then broadcast from your wireless card to use your computer as a wireless router. You can do the opposite as well: grab onto a wireless signal and pass it on to another computer over a wire (for instance, if that one doesn't have a wireless card). -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I'm fairly certain this is intentional behavior. Certainly I _prefer_ the current behavior because I can force a reinitialization of a network connection manually. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
I can confirm this pretty easily, what I can't confirm is if this is a bug or an intended feature so I'm going to mark it as wishlist. I could see how some people might enjoy the easy method of reconnecting easily, but I too would prefer it as a seperate option. As far as the two internet connections at one time, I didn't think that was technically possible. Yes, you can theoretically have both enabled and open but the computer only lets you use one at a time. Being that this program is a network manager, it would want you to choose the one you want to be the active connection. Anyways, If I am wrong in that regard I urge you to make a spec for that one as a feature request (see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications ). To reproduce: 1) Use nm-applet and connect to a wired connection 2) Click the already selected option of a "Wired Network" Expected Behavior: Everything should remain as it is. Actual Result: User is disconnected and then reconnected. ** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 86186] Re: Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect
Also of note, this method of disconnecting and reconnecting upon clicking an already selected option is not exclusive to a wired connection. I can reproduce it the same way be clicking on an already connected wireless connection. -- Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs