[Bug 140602] Re: Add two-finger scrolling/two-finger tapping to Touchpad options

2008-08-17 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
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Add two-finger scrolling/two-finger tapping to Touchpad options
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Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-17 Thread Markus Hitter

Am 14.08.2008 um 17:03 schrieb Luke L:

> Here's my other thought: I personally don't have Intrepid to test  
> this software out. Hardy doesn't have a functioning version  
> (without going into PPA and manual setup, which is not what most  
> people will do). Jumping straight into having it replace Pidgin  
> might be hasty. Consider getting a stable program in the OS for a  
> release before making it default.

Very good idea. Get it integrated into Ubuntu properly for some time,  
_then_ make it the prominent default tool.

This way you can put Empathy on the public schedule for Intrepid+1 
(+2?) and add a note there:

"If you want to test or use this app now, apt-get it into your  
current Ubuntu."

This likely helps to settle Empathy's integration and getting it a  
lot more testing before it's meant to give those important first  
impressions of Ubuntu.


my $0.02,
MarKus

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Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-17 Thread Alexander Jones
Reasonably fair point. It's just that that WOULD have been Hardy if
there wasn't a packaging oopsy wrt. connection manager dependencies.

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Re: Intuitive "Popup" Scrollbars

2008-08-17 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Odysseus Flappington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, if it is actually even the tiniest bit more user-friendly that what we
> currently have, which I have to admit I've been frustrated with before,
> everyone will scream Ubuntu's innovation..

I must admit, on a large screen moving all the way from top to bottom
of the scrollbar is a royal pain.  I wouldn't mind having easier
targets.  I remember if you clicked and held the center button/scroll
wheel on Windows you could drag the page around a bit as well, to keep
from having to go to the scrollbar.  Can't figure out how to do that
on Ubuntu, but then I'd rather not sacrifice middle-click-to-paste
either.

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Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-17 Thread Luke L
Here's my other thought: I personally don't have Intrepid to test this
software out. Hardy doesn't have a functioning version (without going into
PPA and manual setup, which is not what most people will do). Jumping
straight into having it replace Pidgin might be hasty. Consider getting a
stable program in the OS for a release before making it default.

I am admittedly ignorant as to how stable Empathy and its extensions are.
Since several others and myself have never /heard/ of it before, I assume
it's a relatively new project.

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Re: Intuitive "Popup" Scrollbars

2008-08-17 Thread Alexander Jones
I think there's little chance we'll be diverging from upstream GTK on
a component as important as this. I suggest you take this concept
straight to GTK.

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Re: Intuitive "Popup" Scrollbars

2008-08-17 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Danny Piccirillo wrote on 14/08/08 00:18:
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>> "http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/popup-scrollbar-concept-demo/
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>> This would just give Ubuntu more edge and make it even more
>> intuitive. Although for people used to the old style
>> scrollbar it may be confusing at first glance, it would
>> quickly become another reason to get hooked on Ubuntu :)"
>>...
>
> How do you know? Have you tested it? If so, on how many people?

It would be an interesting thing to test.  I wonder how difficult it
would be to modify a few apps to use that method, so that we can try
it out and get our friends/family to try it out as well.

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Re: Intuitive "Popup" Scrollbars

2008-08-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 09:50 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote:

> You've probably noticed this already, but I find it hard to grab the
> 'bar' if my mouse is already in the trough. I have to move the mouse off
> of the trough and then back on where the bar is. I know it's not
> necessary to grab the bar, and also that one can drag after clicking an
> arrow (cool!) but some users will expect that functionality anyway.

You can always just drag, so I don't see a problem there. I already use
highlighting of the indicator on hovering the bar and a cursor change to
encourage to not aim for the indicator.


> The scroll arrows should have a timer for when they disappear. Some
> users will move the mouse off of the trough by accident. Right now, the
> arrows disappear and then reset at a different position. If the pointer
> is moved straight back on, the arrows are centred around it instead of
> one being directly below.

Such a delay before a reset is already on my list. Other entries:
- page-wise stepping on click-hold (switch to sliding on drag)
- continued scrolling on hitting screen edges
- additional horizontal version
- drawing button areas all the way to the top/bottom
  to leave no doubt about target areas
- better name (I'm using dynamic scrollbars now)
- look into packaging deb/ppa

I started to use bzr/launchpad:
https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/dynamic_scrollbar
Current state is pretty dodgy, not useful for testing.


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