Re: UDS changes

2013-02-28 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org wrote:

 Le Tuesday 26 February 2013 23:00:45 Harald Sitter a écrit :
  Clearly Canonical is encouraging us to increase upstream transparency, so
  it only makes sense that we should all attend Akademy to discuss directly
  with our upstream on how to shape the future of free software. Supposedly
  we should have an online session discussing just how we make the most out
  of Akademy which (unfortunately) is only held once a year
 
  http://akademy2013.kde.org/

 Maybe it would be a good idea to make Kubuntu presence at Akademy
 stronger. I
 would not go as far as suggesting we co-host a Kubuntu sprint at Akademy,
 but
 we could:

 - Schedule a few BoFs
 - Announce that Kubuntu developers will be attending Akademy, and are
 looking
 forward to discuss with KDE developers

 Aurélien

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If Kubuntu wants to strength links with KDE, a good start would be to
actually trust KDE maintainers on which are stable versions.

Also making sure that the developers are aware of how is Kubuntu patching
their software by posting the patches to upstream and let them have a say.
I'm unsure what's the l10n status at the moment with Kubuntu+KDE, but using
KDE infrastructure would be benefitial too.

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Re: UDS changes

2013-02-28 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org wrote:

 AFAIK Kubuntu policy is to get all patches reviewed upstream.


That and also a as-few-patches-as-possible policy. There was a bit of
slacking there recently so we have a pile of patches that are either not
reviewed by upstream or should ultimately be carried upstream in a more
scalable version. Nothing too invasive lying around though.

HS
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Re: UDS changes

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 04:35:14 PM Aleix Pol wrote:
 If Kubuntu wants to strength links with KDE, a good start would be to
 actually trust KDE maintainers on which are stable versions.

What does this mean?  Since KDE 4.4 we've shipped every KDE point release.  
Sometimes we get behind (4.9.5 should be available for all users next week), 
but we do ship them all.

Scott K

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Re: [kubuntu-devel] Re: UDS changes

2013-02-28 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:25:16AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 04:35:14 PM Aleix Pol wrote:
  If Kubuntu wants to strength links with KDE, a good start would be to
  actually trust KDE maintainers on which are stable versions.
 
 What does this mean?  Since KDE 4.4 we've shipped every KDE point release.  
 Sometimes we get behind (4.9.5 should be available for all users next week), 
 but we do ship them all.

This is probably a reference to not doing stable release updates for
each new stable release, like KDevelop (although KDevelop 4.4.1 is in
12.10).  This is an issue which has probably just gone away with
today's announcement/discussion.

Jonathan

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Re: [kubuntu-devel] Re: UDS changes

2013-02-28 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:25:16AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
  On Thursday, February 28, 2013 04:35:14 PM Aleix Pol wrote:
   If Kubuntu wants to strength links with KDE, a good start would be to
   actually trust KDE maintainers on which are stable versions.
 
  What does this mean?  Since KDE 4.4 we've shipped every KDE point
 release.
  Sometimes we get behind (4.9.5 should be available for all users next
 week),
  but we do ship them all.

 This is probably a reference to not doing stable release updates for
 each new stable release, like KDevelop (although KDevelop 4.4.1 is in
 12.10).  This is an issue which has probably just gone away with
 today's announcement/discussion.


For all the problems a rolling release may have/cause it certainly frees up
resources to deliver more stable updates.

HS
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