Re: Why Nautilus and GNOME applications use URIs?

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:36 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 when using Drag and Drop, nautilus switches from GIO/GVFS URI to local
 path, depending on the drop target (i.e. it will paste a local path if
 you drop to a gnome-terminal). I guess dropping on a gtk filechooser
 assumes that the application is using GIO. It may need some special
 casing for this case. On one hand, if an application is gtk-based it
 really should use gio, on the other hand  I think at least firefox and
 openoffice use gtk file chooser and won't use it.
 
 For GIO-based applications, using the GIO URI is much better, but as
 far as I remember, several applications transform local paths into GIO
 URIs, so providing a local path should always work.

Dragging files from nautilus and dropping on the file open dialog in OOo
works for me. Ubuntu's OOo doesn't use URIs due to prior bugs and I
converted it to using the local path (gvfs-fuse) which appears to work
more reliably.

Chris


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Re: Re: KDE PulseAudio Integration

2010-06-03 Thread Volovikov Taras
I learned about the integration of PulseAudio into Mandriva (implemented
as in Fedora)
All you need to do here - http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE


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Why do some updates skip proposed? (launchpad bug 589163)

2010-06-03 Thread James Hogarth
Hey all,

Quick question for anyone that can give a quick answer...

The kernel released for lucid last night (2.6.32-22.35) broke kvm
guests - prevented them from starting.

The kernel that was in proposed (2.6.32-22.33) has no problems.

Looking at launchpad it looks like 2.6.32-22.35 never hit proposed and
went straight to updates/security:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.32-22.35/+publishinghistory

Given that this broke KVM guests on an LTS release no less (and kvm is
pushed by Ubuntu as the virtualisation system to use) it presents a
reasonably serious problem.

How did this get straight to release with no testing in proposed?

What is the point of having proposed for bug testing if a released
package never goes through it - especially for something as critically
important to the core system as the kernel?

Hopefully the issue can be fixed soon so those of us who use KVM on
Lucid are able to use the latest kernel with any bug fixes again..

As it is anyone with this issue cannot get a fix from Ubuntu as a
vendor for the following CVE's as they are part of the update that
broke kvm:

CVE-2010-0419
CVE-2010-1162
CVE-2010-1488
CVE-2010-1148
CVE-2010-1146
CVE-2009-4537

And if they don't have the savvy (or are unwilling to run a 'proposed'
kernel) to obtain the 2.6.32-22.33 kernel directly from the launchpad
build page they will also be missing updates for launchpad bugs 526354
and 567016.

Any thoughts on this issue?

Regards,

James

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Re: Why do some updates skip proposed? (launchpad bug 589163)

2010-06-03 Thread Arand Nash
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On 03/06/10 18:16, James Hogarth wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 Quick question for anyone that can give a quick answer...
 
 The kernel released for lucid last night (2.6.32-22.35) broke kvm
 guests - prevented them from starting.
 
 The kernel that was in proposed (2.6.32-22.33) has no problems.
 
 Looking at launchpad it looks like 2.6.32-22.35 never hit proposed and
 went straight to updates/security:
 
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.32-22.35/+publishinghistory
 
 Given that this broke KVM guests on an LTS release no less (and kvm is
 pushed by Ubuntu as the virtualisation system to use) it presents a
 reasonably serious problem.
 
 How did this get straight to release with no testing in proposed?
 
 What is the point of having proposed for bug testing if a released
 package never goes through it - especially for something as critically
 important to the core system as the kernel?
 
 Hopefully the issue can be fixed soon so those of us who use KVM on
 Lucid are able to use the latest kernel with any bug fixes again..
 
 As it is anyone with this issue cannot get a fix from Ubuntu as a
 vendor for the following CVE's as they are part of the update that
 broke kvm:
 
 CVE-2010-0419
 CVE-2010-1162
 CVE-2010-1488
 CVE-2010-1148
 CVE-2010-1146
 CVE-2009-4537
 
 And if they don't have the savvy (or are unwilling to run a 'proposed'
 kernel) to obtain the 2.6.32-22.33 kernel directly from the launchpad
 build page they will also be missing updates for launchpad bugs 526354
 and 567016.
 
 Any thoughts on this issue?
 
 Regards,
 
 James
 

As stated on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelUpdates:

* Security updates will be uploaded directly into -security without
other changes. This just requires a temporary GIT fork which will be
immediately merged back into the main branch for that stable release.

* Normal updates will be provided as pre-releases through the
kernel-ppa users PPA. At certain points those get made into proposed
releases which are uploaded to the proposed pocket. Then again they
have to get verified to fix the problems and not to cause regressions.

As far as I know, this applies to most security updates, skipping the
- -proposed step
Whether or not this policy is a good one, is a matter of discussion,
since it obviously failed this one.

Would more testing, which would mean a slower procedure for getting
the security fixes through, be a viable compromise in some cases? What
kind of testing is already in place by the security team? Could that
be expanded?

- - arand
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