Re: Choosing a language for guest session

2015-05-13 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hi Andriy, and thanks for your suggestion!

On 2015-05-10 12:02, Андрій Шелунцов wrote:
 Right now guest session starts with a language which is set for
 ordinary user who started the ordinary  session.
 I some cases(international families for example) it could be not the 
 best solution.

Actually, the language for a guest session is the system default
language (as defined in the /etc/default/locale config file), and not
dependent on the language for the user session from which a guest
session is launched. So one option is to set the system language to
what's typically the most appropriate language for the guests.

 So i offer to add the option for guest user to choose the language
 by himself.

I agree that letting the guest user select the language would be a nice
feature. Please feel free to file a wishlist bug. (It would be against
the lightdm package.)

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Bug in tkcvs package

2015-05-13 Thread Alon Shtivelman
Dear developers,
There is a little installation bug in tkcvs package.it installs smoothly 
without any dependencies,but then, when I try to run tkdiff it requires 
wish command, which is found in tk package.Therefore, you need to include 
the tk package as a dependency to tkcsv package.
Thanks!Alon.
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Re: Window Controls on the Right Side

2015-05-13 Thread john . r . moser
On 05/01/2015 10:52 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
 John Moser wrote on 30/04/15 03:23:

  ...
 There have been dozens of desktop computer OS manufacturers less
 successful than Apple -- for example, Acorn, Be, Commodore, Google,
 IBM, Sun, and every company that has ever released an OS based on
 Gnome or KDE. Broadly marketed is assuming the question -- the

For decades?  Standing side-by-side with Dell in Best Buy and CompUSA? 
With their own stores?  All over the news, pervasive throughout culture?

Sure, there are plenty of commercially-introduced operating
systems--such as Ubuntu.  Do you see Ubuntu stores popping up
everywhere?  Do you see ads for Ubuntu on TV, imploring users to
switch?  Is Ubuntu broadly marketing toward the consumer market, or just
passively sitting aside as an available option?

  Back in 10.04, Ubuntu tried moving the controls to the left.  This
  met with huge resistance, largely in the form of complaining,
  whining, and people putting the controls back where they belong.

 That is similarly assuming the question. The only reason you think the
 controls ... belong on the right is that around 1993, someone at

I have given the ergonomic definition.

 In both Windows and OS X, putting the controls all on one side (a)
 increases the risk that you'll close a window when you mean to minimize
 or maximize it,

The argument is about putting all the controls on the left instead of
the right.  In that context, you risk closing the window when you
operate the locally-integrated menu.

 (b) makes centered titles look imbalanced in the title
 bar,

No different if all controls are on the left; and, generally, the
least-important thing anyone could say on the topic.

 and (c) causes ugliness when a window doesn't have maximize and/or
 close functions, because you end up with buttons that are either
 permanently insensitive (as in Windows and OS X) or
 inconsistently-placed (as in Ubuntu).

This is not solved by moving buttons around.

 These problems could be avoided
 by splitting them across left and right, as Canonical's then-head of
 design suggested: Personally, I would have the max and min on the
 left and close on the right.
 https://web.archive.org/web/20100315143609/http://www.ivankamajic.com/?p=281


That seems like the ultimate bad design, but I'll dodge on that one
entirely because it only strikes my senses as scattering related window
controls around.  I can make up an argument for it on-the-spot, and
it'll sound impressive and well-reasoned; but I'd rather not commit to
anything I haven't considered substantially.


  ...

  I said most people are right-handed, and that the easiest way to
  tilt your wrist or move your arm was out and away.  The top-right
  of your screen is the easiest area of the screen to access--go
  ahead, try it. Those of us with civil rights in Elbonia will find
  I'm completely correct; lefties will find confusion, followed by
  the realization that they're using the wrong hand.

 Apart from the Fitts's-Law-derived conclusions that the easiest pixels
 to hit are (a) the one you're at right now and (b) the four corners,
 I'm not aware of any research on this. Do you know of any?

Hold your right arm out straight in front of you, with the fingers
extended in line with the forearm.

Now, tilt your wrist thirty degrees to the right.  That's easy, yes? 
It's a wide range of motion.

Now, instead, tilt your wrist thirty degrees to the left.

YOU CANNOT DO IT.

The inward tilting motion is awkward.  It strains the wrist, and range
of motion is minimal.  Further, the mouse is in such a position that
pushing forward in the neutral manner or extending the fingers causes it
to move roughly 10 degrees (extending the fingers may move the mouse 0
to 5 degrees) to the right--to the outside of the body.

Generally, when moving up-right, the crude movement sends the mouse
pointer off at a 45 degree angle; up-left crude movement is 10-15
degrees.  Large, wide movements of the arm are used to make the mouse
move inward toward the body--left for right-handed people.  You *can*
get around this if you own a cordless mouse:  advanced juggling tricks
such as lifting your hand off the mouse and rotating your arm to shuffle
the mouse around on the desk with your pinky can more easily move it to
the left.  Some people as well reposition their computer mice; if you
watch, you'll see they never lift and reposition the mouse to go right,
but will occasionally lift and reposition the mouse out to the right so
as to use the range of motion of the arm (from the shoulder) to go left.

This is basic human physiology applied to ergonomics:  movement X is
easy for a human, task A is easy if it requires movement X.

The four corners thing is just that you can crash the mouse out
infinitely up and right and end up at a corner (same for the other 3). 
You'll notice the implication that hitting a pixel *close* to where you
are now is harder than hitting a corner pixel.


  A year later, in 

Show Tell: Open Source Online Conference

2015-05-13 Thread Gustavo Silva
Hello all,

I hereby would like to discuss one idea the Lubuntu team has came up with
in this previous UOS (
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22484/community-1505-planning-session/
).

The idea is to basically create regular online conferences, where people
have the place to show their personal  business projects, people can
educate others, explain their point of view of given topics and so on. Be
aware: The concept is not strict to those kind of conferences. It still
needs some work around, but the basic idea is there. You can find it
relatively well developed in the below link (Apologies for using Google on
this one, but I believe it is the most easy-to-use tool for the time
being):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d1qDnuooN7a7L64veURqIM0-NY8AZRw5eVMHHn67oXs/edit?usp=sharing

Why the conferences? Well, this increases the incentives and the enthusiasm
of new people to stick around and learn new things. And, of course, it is
an opportunity for people to show themselves to the world. You have an
idea? Your business is way more productive because you use open source
strategically? You would like to explain to others how to do this or that?
Well then, you are more than qualified to propose a session and later
discuss it online.

My intention to email you all about this idea is because I do not believe
in its success unless we all gather strengths and do this together -
assuming some of you guys are interested, of course. Besides, it is an idea
that is open to all of us, and not only Lubuntu - or Ubuntu.
I am up to debate anything in regard to this project. I am willing to
schedule a Hangout session if there is the need for it.

Feel free to reply with any suggestion, question or just to send me to hell
:-)
Thank you for your time!


Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
Gustavo Silva


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