Re: Default option for volume hotkeys (speakers/headphones)

2007-08-31 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
> 4) Alter the kernel so that it binds the headphone and master channel
> together. That's how it's handled on various pieces of hardware.

A bug suggesting that this be done can be found at:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/124662

I assume that, seeing as nobody suggested a better solution, Matthew's
method is the best way to proceed.

Thanks for the assistance,

Aaron

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Re: Default option for volume hotkeys (speakers/headphones)

2007-08-26 Thread Arwyn Hainsworth
On 27/08/07, Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 03:33:06PM +1200, Aaron Whitehouse wrote:
>
> > 3) Cleverly determine whether headphones are plugged in. If they are,
> > make the hotkeys control "Headphones" and if they are not, control
> > "Master".
>
> 4) Alter the kernel so that it binds the headphone and master channel
> together. That's how it's handled on various pieces of hardware.
>

I have both Headphone and Master set to 50% and then bind the hotkey
to PCM which affects them both as a workaround, but that wouldn't work
on all systems. Would it be possible to create a virtual channel that
affects both Master and Headphone channels, to which the hotkey can be
bound?

Arwyn

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Re: Default option for volume hotkeys (speakers/headphones)

2007-08-26 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 03:33:06PM +1200, Aaron Whitehouse wrote:

> 3) Cleverly determine whether headphones are plugged in. If they are,
> make the hotkeys control "Headphones" and if they are not, control
> "Master".

4) Alter the kernel so that it binds the headphone and master channel 
together. That's how it's handled on various pieces of hardware.

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Default option for volume hotkeys (speakers/headphones)

2007-08-25 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
Hi all,

I am using Gutsy Tribe 5 and maintain one of the LaptopTesting pages.
As such, I plugged in my headphones and tested the volume hotkeys.
Nothing happens. The bug report is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/63544
and is marked as invalid.

The reason that it is marked invalid is that there is no consensus on
how it should be fixed.

The default at the moment, as I understand things, is that the volume
hotkeys control the "Master" setting. This controls the speakers but
not the headphones (despite the name). As I see it, there are at least
three options:
1) Change the hotkeys to control both "Master" and "Headphones". This
can manually be achieved by going into the preferences and
Ctrl-clicking.
2) Change the hotkeys to control "PCM" (I understand that this would
mean that the volume of sound from some applications would not be able
to be altered)
3) Cleverly determine whether headphones are plugged in. If they are,
make the hotkeys control "Headphones" and if they are not, control
"Master".

We are all aiming for an intuitive, user-friendly distribution. It is
my personal opinion that, when somebody has headphones in and presses
the volume hotkeys, they would expect the sound that they are hearing
to change volume. One can always change the default in the
preferences, but the default should make sense.

What are the opinions of others on this? I would have thought that 1
was a better solution than we currently have, although it may not be
the best.

Regards,

Aaron

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