Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Nathan Haines

On 06/07/2017 07:09 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> It really continues to be inappropriate for people to police how you
> choose to communicate and express yourself Alberta.

It is not inappropriate to let someone know that he is acting in a way 
that prevents his communication from being received and understood by 
the majority of his audience.


> While using a video may be unorthodox it doesn't violate any community
> rules and those who dislike it are free to scroll past.

These mailing lists are for text discussion, not promotion of his social 
media channels.  If he truly does wish to communicate with the people on 
these mailing lists, then he should do so on these mailing lists.


Empty emails with blind links to videos or social media with no context 
are unlikely to be followed by many.


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Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella

Marcin Xc:
"Why" are You still ignoring people who told You that a mailing list is 
not a right place for links and videos? Especially 10 or 20 minutes long.


I understand that people suspect I'm doing things on resistance. 
Understand me when I choose to point an UI issue actually seeing the UI.



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Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-07 Thread Marcin Xc
"Why" are You still ignoring people who told You that a mailing list is not a 
right place for links and videos? Especially 10 or 20 minutes long.

 
 
  Dnia czw., cze 8, 2017 o 1:02, Alberto Salvia Novella 
napisał:   Why we have malformed bug reports:
(https://youtu.be/sC6wG5Owu4E)

Why decisions are better delegated:
(https://youtu.be/9PWW8sryNec)

Where to place these help pages:
(https://youtu.be/vob02C4dGWI)

  
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Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread Marcin Xc
As I wrote in my previous message Alberto though You shouldn't record movies, I 
support You with all my heart. Some developer told me once "Unity was intuitive 
and was tested". My answer was: give a Mate desktop to a 5year old child which 
can't read and tell him to start a game. No problem in Mate, mission impossible 
in Unity. I slowed down my contribution for Ubuntu with the 12.04 release cause 
I'm like a good market player who sees which company/project is worth 
investing. It was clear for me that Unity will not succeed.
Ubuntu 11.xx was one of the first and last releases where Bluetooth used to 
work correctly and without problems with all devices. Someone decided to 
replace that working packages with new ones: bug reports for this decision are 
open till today and Ubuntu payed for that a few months ago with Ubuntu Touch 
project. Someone wanted to built convergence devices without working Bluetooth. 
"First things first"! I know development is needed to not finish the way Nokia 
did but I support with all my heart Alberto: someone make thoughtless decisions 
who makes system unreliable and unstable. I caused that many people stoped 
using Windows and started using Linux but if I had installed them Ubuntu 
version from 12.04 they would have come back to Windows. I do not agree with 
Your Greenpeace comparison but I can confirm that Ubuntu as a system for people 
is dead. Ubuntu is a system for playing developers who show their fantasy 
without respect for an end user. I thank God that there are still people like 
guys from Ubuntu Mate who just show respect for end users.
Cheers
Marcin


 
 
  Dnia śr., cze 7, 2017 o 1:03, Alberto Salvia Novella 
napisał:   Speaking about the Roman's king, I have just received this email 
from a 
familiar which I have installed Ubuntu:

Cousin:
 > It gets worse every time, especially at start-up, it hangs and
 > needs to restart.


Other mentions in the latests two months:

Father:
 > It usually hangs at start-up, and mouse stops working from time to
 > time.

Friend:
 > Ubuntu was no longer booting up. I needed it for my end of career
 > work, so you know what I did? Removed it and installed Windows 10.


So it seems that all of these happens nearly all of the time:
(https://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics)

Root cause: nobody is reporting bugs and nobody is triaging them, as 
it's too hard to read the manuals. And people won't allow the needed 
change because of:

(https://plus.google.com/+AlbertoSalviaNovella/posts/6fmD4E2vKfP)

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