Re: GCC 5 now the default in wily (release pocket)

2015-08-16 Thread Michi Henning
Sorry, I don't follow.

This is on Jenkins. I have no choice as to what packages are used to build with 
there.

Am I missing something?

If boost can't be built for the new ABI, how is my gcc 5 compiled code going to 
link with boost?

Cheers,

Michi.


On 14 Aug 2015, at 18:20 , Matthias Klose  wrote:

> On 08/14/2015 10:07 AM, Michi Henning wrote:
>> As of today, none of our CI jobs are building any longer.
>> 
>> It looks like gcc 5 is now the default in Jenkins, but the libraries that 
>> are installed are still compiled with 4.9.
>> So, for example, we fail to link against leveldb because leveldb still has 
>> the old ABI string symbols in it.
>> The boost -dev packages also appear to still be at 1.55 with the old ABI. I 
>> expect that more things will
>> will be affected. For example, Qt5, with methods such as 
>> QString::fromStdString().
> 
> this looks like you don't have -proposed enabled. And yes, this is expected.
> boost can't be built for the new ABI, it will be removed for the wily release.
> 
> Matthias
> 


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Re: GCC 5 now the default in wily (release pocket)

2015-08-16 Thread Michi Henning
As of today, none of our CI jobs are building any longer.

It looks like gcc 5 is now the default in Jenkins, but the libraries that are 
installed are still compiled with 4.9.
So, for example, we fail to link against leveldb because leveldb still has the 
old ABI string symbols in it.
The boost -dev packages also appear to still be at 1.55 with the old ABI. I 
expect that more things will
will be affected. For example, Qt5, with methods such as 
QString::fromStdString().

Is anyone looking at this?

Thanks,

Michi.


On 13 Aug 2015, at 0:01 , Matthias Klose  wrote:

> GCC 5 is now the default in the wily release pocket, together with some
> libraries, which were either forced (icu, boost1.58), or migrated on their 
> own.
> The majority of the packages in -proposed are still blocked by missing 
> rebuilds
> or packages failing to build.
> 
> The packages which already are migrated to the release pocket should be
> installable and not break any installation, however using the release pocket 
> for
> development which touches any of the not yet migrated packages won't work.  
> For
> this case you should have a development chroot with both the "release" and  
> the
> "proposed" pocket enabled.
> 
> We do *not* recommend updating your default environment to wily-proposed. If 
> you
> want to help with testing one of the desktop environments, please do that in a
> VM or in a chroot. The Ubuntu desktop already seems to be upgradable.  Updates
> of Kubuntu, Xubuntu and UbuntuStudio desktops are not yet tested.  Feedback is
> welcome.
> 
> To get this large transition finished, your help is welcome and needed.
> 
> What you should *not* do:
> 
> - Starting a major transition / update of some package or
>   set of packages.
> 
> - Merging or force syncing a package from Debian which had a library
>   transition in Ubuntu but not in Debian. We'll see to these packages
>   after the majority of the packages moved to wily.
> 
> What you should do:
> 
> - work on a transition mentioned at [1]. Pleases coordinate with
>   release managers on IRC (#ubuntu-release).
> 
> - Relevant FTBFS are tracked on [2]. Help with those is greatly
>   appreciated to unblock library transitions.
> 
> - With a lower priority, fixing build failures and dep-wait's
>   mentioned at [2]. Check that page maybe not as often as your
>   email, but do it on a regular basis. Unfortunately we had to
>   start the GCC 5 changes with a rather long list of issues.
> 
> Remember that this transition doesn't end at the main/universe border or at 
> the
> set of packages included in our iso images, but involves the whole archive 
> (like
> any other transition).
> 
> Thanks, Matthias
> 
> [1] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
> [2] http://pad.ubuntu.com/gcc-5-transition
> [3] http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/
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Re: GCC 5 now the default in wily (release pocket)

2015-08-16 Thread Matthias Klose
On 08/14/2015 10:07 AM, Michi Henning wrote:
> As of today, none of our CI jobs are building any longer.
> 
> It looks like gcc 5 is now the default in Jenkins, but the libraries that are 
> installed are still compiled with 4.9.
> So, for example, we fail to link against leveldb because leveldb still has 
> the old ABI string symbols in it.
> The boost -dev packages also appear to still be at 1.55 with the old ABI. I 
> expect that more things will
> will be affected. For example, Qt5, with methods such as 
> QString::fromStdString().

this looks like you don't have -proposed enabled. And yes, this is expected.
boost can't be built for the new ABI, it will be removed for the wily release.

Matthias


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Re: GCC 5 now the default in wily (release pocket)

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michi,

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 06:36:41PM +1000, Michi Henning wrote:
> Sorry, I don't follow.

> This is on Jenkins. I have no choice as to what packages are used to build
> with there.

> Am I missing something?

Why are these jobs building in jenkins, rather than in a ppa?

Who administers this jenkins, and why is the jenkins not set up to build
against -proposed?

I'm not sure why your jenkins build environment should have a policy that's
different from both the main archive and the CI Train silos.  I think you
probably want to get this fixed.

> On 14 Aug 2015, at 18:20 , Matthias Klose  wrote:
> 
> > On 08/14/2015 10:07 AM, Michi Henning wrote:
> >> As of today, none of our CI jobs are building any longer.
> >> 
> >> It looks like gcc 5 is now the default in Jenkins, but the libraries that 
> >> are installed are still compiled with 4.9.
> >> So, for example, we fail to link against leveldb because leveldb still has 
> >> the old ABI string symbols in it.
> >> The boost -dev packages also appear to still be at 1.55 with the old ABI. 
> >> I expect that more things will
> >> will be affected. For example, Qt5, with methods such as 
> >> QString::fromStdString().

> > this looks like you don't have -proposed enabled. And yes, this is
> > expected.  boost can't be built for the new ABI, it will be removed for
> > the wily release.

This refers specifically to boost 1.55, not "boost".  boost in wily-proposed
is now at version 1.58 and is built for the g++5 ABI.  However, this won't
make its way into wily until the phone stack is ready to migrate (along with
the various other packages that need to be migrated at the same time).

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