ffmpeg extra libs
I was looking at the US ubuntustudio.precise seeds. to see if it might be obvious to me why the non extra libs are a problem. It appears that the gstreamer package is part of the desktop-common part of things which will set the dependencies to the non-extra libs before any of the other audio packages are looked at by the installer. What this means is that the extra style libs are actually needed in the desktop-common set of apps anyway and should be installed at that time. That is, all the stuff in the ffmpeg-common package should be moved into the desktop-common package... I would go one step farther and blacklist the non-extra packages (just to be sure). The other option would be to set ffmpeg-common as a dependency of desktop-common, but that doesn't really make sense if they are going to be loaded all the time anyway. Getting the extra libs set up as preferred might be hard to do as each application that uses these libs sets it's own preference. So any new package added later could mess things up again anyway. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: ffmpeg extra libs
On 11/30/2011 04:18 PM, Len Ovens wrote: I was looking at the US ubuntustudio.precise seeds. to see if it might be obvious to me why the non extra libs are a problem. It appears that the gstreamer package is part of the desktop-common part of things which will set the dependencies to the non-extra libs before any of the other audio packages are looked at by the installer. What this means is that the extra style libs are actually needed in the desktop-common set of apps anyway and should be installed at that time. That is, all the stuff in the ffmpeg-common package should be moved into the desktop-common package... I would go one step farther and blacklist the non-extra packages (just to be sure). The other option would be to set ffmpeg-common as a dependency of desktop-common, but that doesn't really make sense if they are going to be loaded all the time anyway. Getting the extra libs set up as preferred might be hard to do as each application that uses these libs sets it's own preference. So any new package added later could mess things up again anyway. There are possible licensing issues with the extra libs which is why they are in multiverse. Applications in main or universe cannot depend solely on these binaries. There should be alternate dependencies in place to allow one to choose between the extra and regular versions of each library. The regular library has to take preference though. Thanks, Micah -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: ffmpeg extra libs
On Wed, November 30, 2011 2:49 pm, Micah Gersten wrote: There are possible licensing issues with the extra libs which is why they are in multiverse. Applications in main or universe cannot depend solely on these binaries. There should be alternate dependencies in place to allow one to choose between the extra and regular versions of each library. The regular library has to take preference though. Ok, how does that affect UbuntuStudio? Does it mean the extra libs can not be included in the desktop-common? does it mean we should have the user's permission or request before loading them? or just that we have to work around the preference? We already don't ask if the user wants them or not BTW. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: ffmpeg extra libs
On 11/30/2011 05:12 PM, Len Ovens wrote: On Wed, November 30, 2011 2:49 pm, Micah Gersten wrote: There are possible licensing issues with the extra libs which is why they are in multiverse. Applications in main or universe cannot depend solely on these binaries. There should be alternate dependencies in place to allow one to choose between the extra and regular versions of each library. The regular library has to take preference though. Ok, how does that affect UbuntuStudio? Does it mean the extra libs can not be included in the desktop-common? does it mean we should have the user's permission or request before loading them? or just that we have to work around the preference? We already don't ask if the user wants them or not BTW. It means that if the extra libs are seeded, it should just work. If there's a package that depends on the non-extra libs only, I think that a bug should be filed so that you can use those as well. Thanks, Micah -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
