Re: ATI 4830 and realtime-kernel

2009-02-11 Thread sandie
Gustin Johnson wrote:
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> sandie wrote:
>   
>> Luke Yelavich wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:24:30PM EST, sandie wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 Hi all

 My Nvidia 7950x2 died friday :-(

 I have always used Nvidia, but since Ati now have gone open with the 
 specs to their cards, I wanted to support their great initiative and 
 that instalation would be fairly simple. so I bought a ATI 4830 and to 
 my big supprise... Argh !

 Is there really no support for Radeon 4830 in the realtime-kernel ???
 
 
>>> What version of Ubuntu are you using? If its intrepid, when using the 
>>> generic kernel, are you using the proprietary ATI drivers?
>>>
>>> If yes to both questions, then I believe there maybe something wrong with 
>>> the installation/setup of the ATI drivers and the realtime kernel. Without 
>>> having any new ATI hardware to test with here myself, I can't be sure of 
>>> whats going on. All I can suggest is to attempt to re-install 
>>> fglrx-kernel-source, as well as installing the linux-headers-rt package, 
>>> which should allow the kernel module for the ATI drivers to be built.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>   
>>>   
>> Thanks for your answer
>>
>> I have tried both opensource and propriotary drivers in Ipex and Hardy 
>> and both works fine with the generic kernel, but when i try in realtime 
>> i have not been so lucky.
>> I can't get any installer to work, tried the opensource solution listed 
>> here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver and the 
>> propriotary installer from ATI. the "system-> administration->hardware 
>> drivers" doesn't even see the card.
>>
>> 
> The project's home page is here:
> http://www.radeonhd.org/
>
> You may need to download build this yourself.
> Of particular interest is this section:
> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd#head-f79351b4e2b19fad40529ce297ac2d2a1e90354c
>
> This driver is very much a moving target.  It looks promising but I am
> holding off.  Right now the only video device that I will buy is an
> Intel.  It may not have anywhere near the performance of the ATI and
> Nvidia offerings, but it has a proper upstream driver, which for me is
> far more important.  I do not have any of the supported hardware so I
> cannot be of more use.
>
>   
>> Right now I'm using Ubuntustudio 8.04, but later today I plan to split 
>> my HD and install a Ubuntu 8.10 (generic) on the first half and 
>> Ubuntustudio 8.04 (rt) on the other half.
>> Luckly I also got a new motherboard/cpu/ram, so instalation of 
>> Ubuntustudio only takes about 15 minutes :-)
>> 
>
> I had heard that Intrepid had a version of radeonhd shipping with it.  I
> do not know which version they shipped or how well it works.  Given the
> pace of development, i would guess that the Intrepid driver is already
> stale.
>
> For the record, there are two 3d drivers for ATI hardware. There is the
> classic binary blob called fglrx.  This is the propritary driver and it
> supports older ATI hardware as well.  The newer radeonhd driver only
> supports the latest ATI devices but it is open source, much like the
> Intel driver.  Check the radeonhd site for more info.
>
> Hth,
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It works :-)
The one in the repositorie did not support my card, but I found this 
simple guide that did the trick : 
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9951

Thank you SO much for pointing me in the right direction :-)

/Sandie

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Re: ATI 4830 and realtime-kernel

2009-02-11 Thread Gustin Johnson
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sandie wrote:
> Luke Yelavich wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:24:30PM EST, sandie wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> My Nvidia 7950x2 died friday :-(
>>>
>>> I have always used Nvidia, but since Ati now have gone open with the 
>>> specs to their cards, I wanted to support their great initiative and 
>>> that instalation would be fairly simple. so I bought a ATI 4830 and to 
>>> my big supprise... Argh !
>>>
>>> Is there really no support for Radeon 4830 in the realtime-kernel ???
>>> 
>> What version of Ubuntu are you using? If its intrepid, when using the 
>> generic kernel, are you using the proprietary ATI drivers?
>>
>> If yes to both questions, then I believe there maybe something wrong with 
>> the installation/setup of the ATI drivers and the realtime kernel. Without 
>> having any new ATI hardware to test with here myself, I can't be sure of 
>> whats going on. All I can suggest is to attempt to re-install 
>> fglrx-kernel-source, as well as installing the linux-headers-rt package, 
>> which should allow the kernel module for the ATI drivers to be built.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Luke
>>   
> Thanks for your answer
> 
> I have tried both opensource and propriotary drivers in Ipex and Hardy 
> and both works fine with the generic kernel, but when i try in realtime 
> i have not been so lucky.
> I can't get any installer to work, tried the opensource solution listed 
> here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver and the 
> propriotary installer from ATI. the "system-> administration->hardware 
> drivers" doesn't even see the card.
> 
The project's home page is here:
http://www.radeonhd.org/

You may need to download build this yourself.
Of particular interest is this section:
http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd#head-f79351b4e2b19fad40529ce297ac2d2a1e90354c

This driver is very much a moving target.  It looks promising but I am
holding off.  Right now the only video device that I will buy is an
Intel.  It may not have anywhere near the performance of the ATI and
Nvidia offerings, but it has a proper upstream driver, which for me is
far more important.  I do not have any of the supported hardware so I
cannot be of more use.

> Right now I'm using Ubuntustudio 8.04, but later today I plan to split 
> my HD and install a Ubuntu 8.10 (generic) on the first half and 
> Ubuntustudio 8.04 (rt) on the other half.
> Luckly I also got a new motherboard/cpu/ram, so instalation of 
> Ubuntustudio only takes about 15 minutes :-)

I had heard that Intrepid had a version of radeonhd shipping with it.  I
do not know which version they shipped or how well it works.  Given the
pace of development, i would guess that the Intrepid driver is already
stale.

For the record, there are two 3d drivers for ATI hardware. There is the
classic binary blob called fglrx.  This is the propritary driver and it
supports older ATI hardware as well.  The newer radeonhd driver only
supports the latest ATI devices but it is open source, much like the
Intel driver.  Check the radeonhd site for more info.

Hth,
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Re: ATI 4830 and realtime-kernel

2009-02-11 Thread sandie
Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:24:30PM EST, sandie wrote:
>   
>> Hi all
>>
>> My Nvidia 7950x2 died friday :-(
>>
>> I have always used Nvidia, but since Ati now have gone open with the 
>> specs to their cards, I wanted to support their great initiative and 
>> that instalation would be fairly simple. so I bought a ATI 4830 and to 
>> my big supprise... Argh !
>>
>> Is there really no support for Radeon 4830 in the realtime-kernel ???
>> 
>
> What version of Ubuntu are you using? If its intrepid, when using the generic 
> kernel, are you using the proprietary ATI drivers?
>
> If yes to both questions, then I believe there maybe something wrong with the 
> installation/setup of the ATI drivers and the realtime kernel. Without having 
> any new ATI hardware to test with here myself, I can't be sure of whats going 
> on. All I can suggest is to attempt to re-install fglrx-kernel-source, as 
> well as installing the linux-headers-rt package, which should allow the 
> kernel module for the ATI drivers to be built.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Luke
>   
Thanks for your answer

I have tried both opensource and propriotary drivers in Ipex and Hardy 
and both works fine with the generic kernel, but when i try in realtime 
i have not been so lucky.
I can't get any installer to work, tried the opensource solution listed 
here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver and the 
propriotary installer from ATI. the "system-> administration->hardware 
drivers" doesn't even see the card.

Right now I'm using Ubuntustudio 8.04, but later today I plan to split 
my HD and install a Ubuntu 8.10 (generic) on the first half and 
Ubuntustudio 8.04 (rt) on the other half.
Luckly I also got a new motherboard/cpu/ram, so instalation of 
Ubuntustudio only takes about 15 minutes :-)

/Sandie

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Re: ATI 4830 and realtime-kernel

2009-02-10 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:24:30PM EST, sandie wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> My Nvidia 7950x2 died friday :-(
> 
> I have always used Nvidia, but since Ati now have gone open with the 
> specs to their cards, I wanted to support their great initiative and 
> that instalation would be fairly simple. so I bought a ATI 4830 and to 
> my big supprise... Argh !
> 
> Is there really no support for Radeon 4830 in the realtime-kernel ???

What version of Ubuntu are you using? If its intrepid, when using the generic 
kernel, are you using the proprietary ATI drivers?

If yes to both questions, then I believe there maybe something wrong with the 
installation/setup of the ATI drivers and the realtime kernel. Without having 
any new ATI hardware to test with here myself, I can't be sure of whats going 
on. All I can suggest is to attempt to re-install fglrx-kernel-source, as well 
as installing the linux-headers-rt package, which should allow the kernel 
module for the ATI drivers to be built.

Hope this helps

Luke


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ATI 4830 and realtime-kernel

2009-02-10 Thread sandie
Hi all

My Nvidia 7950x2 died friday :-(

I have always used Nvidia, but since Ati now have gone open with the 
specs to their cards, I wanted to support their great initiative and 
that instalation would be fairly simple. so I bought a ATI 4830 and to 
my big supprise... Argh !

Is there really no support for Radeon 4830 in the realtime-kernel ???

Right now I'm running 1280x1024 on a 22" widescreen with the vesa 
driver, is there realy no other options ?

Any help would be much appriciated :-)

btw. it works flawless when I use the generic kernel.

/Sandie

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