Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 00:08 +, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. I bought my 7 yr old a novatech x10 £210 no os. Seems good but battery life a little poor. He just has mint 10, and we keep an eye on him. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. There is a fairly new kid on the block for parental control from Gnome called Nanny (http://projects.gnome.org/nanny/) which I tried recently on my kids PC (A fairly old AMD 3400+, 1GB RAM) but it was a real dog and bought the machine virtually to it's knees. It is a good idea - an integration of the all the functions below and easy to configure interface but the performance of it wasn't acceptable for me, so I removed it last week. I used to run a combination of privoxy, firehol and Dansguardian which, although a bit of a PITA to set up initially, once installed works well and has no noticeable effect on performance (Google for HowTos). This is what I will be re-installing this weekend. The other app I like for the kids machine is Timekpr. Which lets you set both the amount of time they can use their machine and also between what hours too (In launchpad). HTH Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. Although the machine could be moved and used on an unprotected network at the age you mentioned that is probably less likely. You used to be a firefox add-on that did filtering by proxy and it was possible to lock the proxy via root. The best protection though is education about being on-line, CEOPS www.ceop.police.uk has more info. Neil -- w h i c h w a y i s u p -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Alan. On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Cbeebies as homepage and remove the address bar. (so not chrome for browser then) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 00:08:23 + Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I know a couple of people that are quite happy with their refurbished Acer One they got from here http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ One friend ended up getting 4 in different colours so the family each know whos is whos. I don’t think any of them run Edubuntu on the so don’t know if it 'just-works'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Hi! I have an Acer aspire one zg5. Had linpus in it crashed (something to do with an XD card left inside). I then had ubuntu netbook remix for some time until unity came along and it felt a bit slow: tried looking for 10.4 but it was gone. Tried linpus again: but no support no comunity that I could find (but the card reader was working) I now have meego (fast turn on, fast browsing, some inkscape use) with a live USB running trisquel mini (gnu/linux version or Lubuntu) whenever I want to do some other stuff. That could be an option for you: the aspire ones are fun to use: have something installed for your child and then have some live usb for you. It's an SSD so might want to buy external HDD. What I did for my daugher (still 9 months but looking ahead) is what was suggested in the linux format magazine: make my own. But I did some reasearch: It seems edubuntu has everything from low level to high level education. And it's huge. Qimo is an option: based on xubuntu good for old PCs and based for young ones (it even has a wbar to make it look mac like). What I finally opted for was to use a 7 year old big screen acer aspire laptop that my wife had abandoned. I installed Lubuntu and made big icons, installed tux paint, gcompris and other. I then found a childern friendly keyboard (has tgbyhn keys a little compact for her to reach). My idea is similar to what someone said here: not worry to much with online security. But maybe only give her internet when hardwired through ethernet to my laptop? I'd act as a live blocker of some sort. I would look for an old laptop through freecycle or ebay for a big screen laptop many windows users probably get rid of it.(probably much less than 200pounds) Make sure hardware is mostly compatible with lubuntu or xbuntu buy a childerns keyboard (less than a tenner) and you are off! When he is older get hime something off the shelf. Andres PS: if any of you have an acer aspire one and have managed to make the card reader (SD, XD, extra storage) to work please tell me how! only linpus was able to do it! Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~?200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I know a couple of people that are quite happy with their refurbished Acer One they got from here http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ One friend ended up getting 4 in different colours so the family each know whos is whos. I don?t think any of them run Edubuntu on the so don?t know if it 'just-works'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- Andrés Muñiz-Piniella -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! There's also a great maths arcade style game TuxMath? I think which mine love. I've done exactly this for my 7yr old, (desktop not netbook) which he's been using since about the same age. I do though add some icons for things like disney, dc and marvel comics dr who, cartoon network sites etc in the links bar. If he needs to search for homework, he sits with me and we do it together on mine. I've used cron and Zenity to shut it down with warnings every 5 minutes for 20 minutes before shutdown in the evenings and prevent startup before school time and after getting home (homework time). There's also a built in utility that enables configuration of a system wide policy for periods between breaks and duration of breaks, can't remember the name of it though. Ad blocking is worth having to stop them wandering off by clicking on some random ad that appears. If you get an Aspire One avoid the SSDs, battery performance is fantastic but the disk is slow as hell. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
I know a bright 4 year old who has already been using an Ubuntu tower for a year (offline) with all relevant games. So at 4 years old already a potential expert. I do not really agree about lack of invasive controls, internet access needs some careful thought, and probably ongoing too. The current trends are for Ubuntu and other items such as jolibook, to be internet connected independently of the browser, and these apps also expect to start automatically, and of course they are in menus. Nothing here to cause any configuration difficulty but I guess the difference between vanilla Ubuntu and say, Qimo for kids, will be internet and cloud stuff. BTW an excellent app for browser filter is an addon to Firefox ProCon latte, it can be passworded and also hidden. alan c On 14/12/10 09:54, Alan Bell wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Alan. On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On 14 December 2010 11:25, Will Bickerstaff will.bickerst...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] There's also a built in utility that enables configuration of a system wide policy for periods between breaks and duration of breaks, can't remember the name of it though. I use Workrave to do something similar. Is that what you were thinking of? Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: I use Workrave to do something similar. Is that what you were thinking of? No but certainly looks worth looking at. It was the typing break option in Gnome keyboard preferences. I knew I never had to install anything. But I can no longer see how to apply the setting system wide. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:54 +, Alan Bell wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Good point, a well chosen home page is essential :-) Thanks! Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 08:34 +, Neil Wilson wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. One point I forgot to mention, it's for a friend's daughter so I don't have any control on anything outside the netbook itself. Thanks for the suggestions, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
the kids i have installed Linux for is using this distro: http://qimo4kids.com/ From: brunogi...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:34:05 + Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 08:34 +, Neil Wilson wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. One point I forgot to mention, it's for a friend's daughter so I don't have any control on anything outside the netbook itself. Thanks for the suggestions, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 23:39 +0100, Martin Jernberg wrote: the kids i have installed Linux for is using this distro: http://qimo4kids.com/ Great suggestion, will try, thanks! Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
The Jolibook, Jolicloud's very own Netbook, is certainly bright and colourful enough for a young kid. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vye-Jolibook-netbook-Webcam-Jolicloud/dp/B004CJ8UAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1292292653sr=8-1 On 14 December 2010 00:08, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
