[ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
I want to upgrade to Fiesty, I don't want to do a clean install because I've installed a fair bit of stuff and I don't want to go through that again. So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. Baz -- + http://walkertopia.com Free Multi User Dungeon on line game: telnet walkertopia.com 4040 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. Baz Hi Baz, Here is the method I used, around a month ago. I'm sure the upgrade will be fine for you, but the usual disclaimers apply. There's always that remote possibility that your box doesn't boot back up after upgrading. - From Gnome, press Alt+F2 - Type the following into the run box: gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' - Click Upgrade in the top right corner of the Update Manager. - Wait a minute or so for it to do some magic. - Click Upgrade. - Go grab a hot beverage, for me it was a 800MB download, and then another 30 mins or so upgrade. Now before you do this (and I hope you've read to the bottom of the email before starting ;-)), there is another option. Use the command line: dpkg --get-selections savedprograms Save this 'savedprograms' file safe - maybe email it to yourself. On your new install, you can run: sudo dpkg --set-selections savedprograms sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade This will install all of your previous programs. If you have your home directory on it's own partition, and can preserve it, then you're left with a system that is very close to you had previously. Hope this helps. Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 19:10 +0100, baz wrote: I want to upgrade to Fiesty, I don't want to do a clean install because I've installed a fair bit of stuff and I don't want to go through that again. So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
B-3 wrote: I want to upgrade to Fiesty, I don't want to do a clean install because I've installed a fair bit of stuff and I don't want to go through that again. So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. Baz I would expect it to be the same as the Dapper Edgy upgrade described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades (gksu update-manager -c ) I upgraded to Edgy using this method wthout problems, however the total amount the upgrade downloaded was around 1GB Hope this helps Rob -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/upgrade-to-Fiesty-tf3595810.html#a10044247 Sent from the ubuntu-uk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
(gksu update-manager -c ) Hey. Can anyone point we towards any documentation for the switches used after update-manager ? -c -d etc Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (gksu update-manager -c ) Hey. Can anyone point we towards any documentation for the switches used after update-manager ? -c -d etc I got this by typing update-manager --help in a terminal: Usage: update-manager [options] Options: -h, --helpshow this help message and exit -c, --check-dist-upgrades Check if a new distribution release is available -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible -p, --proposedTry to run a dist-upgrade --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade Try to run a dist-upgrade -Eamonn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On 4/17/07, ted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - From Gnome, press Alt+F2 - Type the following into the run box: gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' [snip] Do you have to edit the sources.list to point to the new release ? No. update-manager does that for you automatically. -Eamonn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
I got this by typing update-manager --help in a terminal: Usage: update-manager [options] Thanks Eamonn - I guess I should have thought of that :-P !! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
Stating the obvious, I know, but just a word of warning: I've had updates to a new release fail miserably, so be sure to back up your data beforehand in case the short cut turns out to be anything but. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to Fiesty
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 19:40 +0100, Kris Marsh wrote: On 4/17/07, baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what's the best way to upgrade? I'm running Edgy at the mo. Baz Hi Baz, Here is the method I used, around a month ago. I'm sure the upgrade will be fine for you, but the usual disclaimers apply. There's always that remote possibility that your box doesn't boot back up after upgrading. - From Gnome, press Alt+F2 - Type the following into the run box: gksudo 'update-manager -c -d' - Click Upgrade in the top right corner of the Update Manager. - Wait a minute or so for it to do some magic. - Click Upgrade. Hope this helps. Kris Thanks that seemed to go ok, only lost Nvu, which I've now installed from their site. Baz -- + http://walkertopia.com Free Multi User Dungeon on line game: telnet walkertopia.com 4040 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
On Dec 20, 2006 at 23:34, Llywelyn Owen praised the llamas by saying: From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this reading between the posts about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? Yes, it was solved many many years ago. Store /home on a separate partition and all will be well. Regards Llywelyn Owen -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
On 21/12/06, David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 20, 2006 at 23:34, Llywelyn Owen praised the llamas by saying: From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this reading between the posts about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? Yes, it was solved many many years ago. Store /home on a separate partition and all will be well. David, I think Llywelyn was including changes in /etc as well as /home. So your solution isn't sufficient. I also found that storing /home on a separate partition isn't sufficient: I don't have access to the list of packages that were previously installed, since that's in /var/lib/dpkg. I also don't have the program I installed from source into /usr/local... It's a good job I tarred the / partition up before nuking it! Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
I've had a few problems when upgrading in the past. I went all the way from Hoary to Edgy on this current machine, and finally gave up last week and did a reinstall from scratch of Edgy. The main problem I had with the upgraded Edgy was that apt/dpkg/etc. claimed I had Firefox 2 installed and not 1.5, but the running Firefox was definitely still 1.5. It's now working as 2.0 properly after I nuked everything. The downside is that I still need to reinstall some extra packages... and I forgot to output a list before I formatted the partition - anyone know where in the filesystem the list is stored, since I still have a zipped tar as backup? Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
Neil Greenwood wrote: The downside is that I still need to reinstall some extra packages... and I forgot to output a list before I formatted the partition - anyone know where in the filesystem the list is stored, since I still have a zipped tar as backup? Try taking a look at /var/lib/dpkg/status its not as simple as dpkg --get-selections. -- Chris Smith http://users.toonarmy.mine.nu/~chris/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
From what I've read about upgrading Ubuntu to the next release it seems best (more reliable and faster) to do a clean install. From this reading between the posts about upgrading Ubuntu, isn't it time to have a unified one click procedure of data backup from the currently installed version of Ubuntu that can be restored without hassle in any new version? By data I mean user created files, settings, and preferences, email settings etc. I understand that this would mean a certain amount of discipline from application developers but if applications are drawn from official repositories this could be a prerequisite. OK, maybe a pie in the sky idea but an useful one stop in house backup procedure is surely overdue and would be a major selling point for (Ubuntu or indeed any distro). Dare I suggest that any Linux backup of this nature would be transportable to other distros as well? Desktop graphics libraries, interfaces, and a whole host of other bits and pieces are being standardized so it can't be beyond the whit of the community come up with a solution to this regular problem - can it? Regards Llywelyn Owen -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to dapper.. Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl -- Regards Ted Wager G3TPI High Peak UK Using Mepis Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from edgy to feisty (so I think). and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. Ted Wager wrote: I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to dapper.. Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
tim matthews wrote: I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from edgy to feisty (so I think). and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. Ted Wager wrote: I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to dapper.. Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl I am only doing it out of interest..I know I can upgrade to Edgy but just wanted to know if the Feisty upgrade was possible after that -- Regards Ted Wager High Peak UK Using Ubuntu Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??
Ted Wager wrote: tim matthews wrote: I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from edgy to feisty (so I think). I'm pretty sure it's possible to jump a release for upgrading, just make sure you use the upgrade manager. The repositories will be the same addresses but changing dapper to feisty and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. I'm running feisty but i'm not a developer, developers only find out the things they need to fix if people test the release and report the bugs. -- /\/\ichael [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] \/\/ood [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
