Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...
On Saturday 26 May 2007 11:31, LeeUKHA wrote: I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install Fiesty on it yourself... Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 more expensive... I really despair sometimes Lee *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated graphics... The price is actually less than that for the Vista version - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070525-windows-tax-is-50-according-to-dell-linux-pc-pricing.html Seems several reports of the price being more with Linux were incorrect. Mark - new to list -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...
At least its a start! On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install Fiesty on it yourself... Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 more expensive... I really despair sometimes Lee *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated graphics... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)7739 785 249 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...
I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install Fiesty on it yourself... Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 more expensive... I really despair sometimes Lee *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated graphics... The price is actually less than that for the Vista version - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070525-windows-tax-is-50-according-to-dell-linux-pc-pricing.html Seems several reports of the price being more with Linux were incorrect. Mark - new to list I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop (the Linux version) with an MS E1505. At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and it's $29 more expensive than the MS version... So I'm not sure where Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden gets the $50 cheaper from... Lee :( -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...
On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop (the Linux version) with an MS E1505. At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and it's $29 more expensive than the MS version... I thought I would take a look myself. And the first problem I hit? Where is the Ubuntu option? I clicked laptops and only got Windows. Had to go back to front page and reload till it came up with the Ubuntu banner, this is NOT a good start! Identical Processors, OS: Windows Vista Home Basic, Ubuntu (no support option). Identical LCDs Memory: Windows was 1GB, Ubuntu 512MB, upgraded to 1GB for $50 Identical hard drives Identical optical drives Graphics: Can't match no options are the same for both The Windows ATI card may be on special offer so might be artificially lower price Could upgrade to nvidia for $79 (option not taken). (skipping Windows only options: sound, mobile broadband and printers) Identical batteries Wireless cards, upgrading windows wireless card to match Ubuntu's at a cost of $29 Software for windows box set to none for all options. Final prices: Windows: $728 Ubuntu: $649 Inaccuracies: Would have reduced cost of Windows box if I hadn't upgrade the wifi card, not much functionality out of that upgrade anyway ($29) Are the Graphics equivalent? Should I have upped the Ubuntu graphics ($79) with the increased graphics it would have cost: Windows: $728 Ubuntu: $728 (hmm identical price) If I hadn't bothered pointlessly upgrading the Windows WiFi then the Windows machine would have been $29 cheaper than Ubuntu. So it all hinges on what you think is comparable? Of course i there was an Ubuntu option under the OS components it would be much easier to see what Windows was costing, and easier to find Ubuntu! Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...
Remember that there's no costs involved in maintaining an Ubuntu machine - no AV software to pay for, no copy of MS Office to buy, and support is free and very good online (so long as your problem doesn't preclude internet access!), so even though you may come up with indentical prices at point of sale, there will be additional, hidden costs with a Windows machine to get, for example, the same security as Ubuntu. On 5/26/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop (the Linux version) with an MS E1505. At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and it's $29 more expensive than the MS version... I thought I would take a look myself. And the first problem I hit? Where is the Ubuntu option? I clicked laptops and only got Windows. Had to go back to front page and reload till it came up with the Ubuntu banner, this is NOT a good start! Identical Processors, OS: Windows Vista Home Basic, Ubuntu (no support option). Identical LCDs Memory: Windows was 1GB, Ubuntu 512MB, upgraded to 1GB for $50 Identical hard drives Identical optical drives Graphics: Can't match no options are the same for both The Windows ATI card may be on special offer so might be artificially lower price Could upgrade to nvidia for $79 (option not taken). (skipping Windows only options: sound, mobile broadband and printers) Identical batteries Wireless cards, upgrading windows wireless card to match Ubuntu's at a cost of $29 Software for windows box set to none for all options. Final prices: Windows: $728 Ubuntu: $649 Inaccuracies: Would have reduced cost of Windows box if I hadn't upgrade the wifi card, not much functionality out of that upgrade anyway ($29) Are the Graphics equivalent? Should I have upped the Ubuntu graphics ($79) with the increased graphics it would have cost: Windows: $728 Ubuntu: $728 (hmm identical price) If I hadn't bothered pointlessly upgrading the Windows WiFi then the Windows machine would have been $29 cheaper than Ubuntu. So it all hinges on what you think is comparable? Of course i there was an Ubuntu option under the OS components it would be much easier to see what Windows was costing, and easier to find Ubuntu! Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/