Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Chris Smith]

Matthew Daubney wrote:
> 
> Ok lads and ladies, I've been giving this some thought now. I can't 
> afford a new server machine, and probably shouldn't be running this 
> monster 24/7. Digging around, in my price range is a Linksys NSLU2 
> (about £60..) which can be reflashed with Debian.

I run a NSLU2 for my main internet facing machine at home, installed
using two flash discs (1GB & 2GB). It functions as a mail gateway
(postfix) relaying to my other server, handles internal DNS and DHCP
(dnsmasq). I use dropbear for SSH rather than openssh and run it on a
non standard port, I also run fail2ban on it, and munin monitoring
(although this is hacked so its started by cron at the appropriate times
rather than consuming precious memory constantly). It is probably
slightly overloaded, I intend to purchase another to offload some tasks.
But it handles all this fairly nicely, aptitude is a bit painful to use
but it does the job eventually.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers Update

[Matthew Daubney]

Daniel Lamb wrote:
> Why not ask around family and friends?
>
> Surely someone will have an old laptop or even old pc which is less power
> hungry.
>
> To be honest I wouldn’t be over bothered about the energy (I say that as
> someone who provides IT support to an energy company) as there is plenty and
> its not a lot of money, and what you could do is run that then wait a bit to
> buy a cheap laptop or less power hungry pc as one will come up. 
>
> Obviously the green people won't like this so I'm sorry.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>   
Hey all,

Thought I would pass on an update. I found an old laptop that I had been 
raiding for parts that just needed a new HDD to make it work as an 
acceptable server. After a trying time of both feisty and gutsy telling 
me that the processor was too old for the kernel, I finally managed to 
get the i386 kernel installed and working.

Hopefully this will keep the leccy bill down a bit!!

Thanks very much for all your suggestions and ideas.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Philip Newborough]

On 03/10/2007, Matthew Daubney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Harrison wrote:
> >
> > I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
> > control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
> >
> > Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers"
> > because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
> >
> > For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
> >
> > M.
> >
> >
>
> Ok lads and ladies, I've been giving this some thought now. I can't
> afford a new server machine, and probably shouldn't be running this
> monster 24/7. Digging around, in my price range is a Linksys NSLU2
> (about £60..) which can be reflashed with Debian.
>
> I reckon that this would be enough (with a SATA to USB case for one of
> the drives) to do what I need the server to do... would this be a
> better solution?
>
> I had a look on ebay at laptops but most of them seem to be a con and
> not have HDD's/Power Supplies, both of which are relativley expensive.
>
> I'm open to any idea's on better solutions too!
>

HBS [http://www.hbs.uk.com/] is the place I got my cheap laptop from.
I'm not sure if they have a nationwide contract with local services
but they do with Lincoln City Council. Might be worth asking your
local Council for a contact.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Daniel Lamb]

Why not ask around family and friends?

Surely someone will have an old laptop or even old pc which is less power
hungry.

To be honest I wouldn’t be over bothered about the energy (I say that as
someone who provides IT support to an energy company) as there is plenty and
its not a lot of money, and what you could do is run that then wait a bit to
buy a cheap laptop or less power hungry pc as one will come up. 

Obviously the green people won't like this so I'm sorry.

Regards,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Daubney
Sent: 03 October 2007 23:51
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

Mark Harrison wrote:
>   
> I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web 
> control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
>
> Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers" 
> because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
>
> For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
>
> M.
>
>   

Ok lads and ladies, I've been giving this some thought now. I can't 
afford a new server machine, and probably shouldn't be running this 
monster 24/7. Digging around, in my price range is a Linksys NSLU2 
(about £60..) which can be reflashed with Debian.

I reckon that this would be enough (with a SATA to USB case for one of 
the drives) to do what I need the server to do... would this be a 
better solution?

I had a look on ebay at laptops but most of them seem to be a con and 
not have HDD's/Power Supplies, both of which are relativley expensive.

I'm open to any idea's on better solutions too!

-Matt Daubney

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Matthew Daubney]

Mark Harrison wrote:
>   
> I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web 
> control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
>
> Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers" 
> because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
>
> For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
>
> M.
>
>   

Ok lads and ladies, I've been giving this some thought now. I can't 
afford a new server machine, and probably shouldn't be running this 
monster 24/7. Digging around, in my price range is a Linksys NSLU2 
(about £60..) which can be reflashed with Debian.

I reckon that this would be enough (with a SATA to USB case for one of 
the drives) to do what I need the server to do... would this be a 
better solution?

I had a look on ebay at laptops but most of them seem to be a con and 
not have HDD's/Power Supplies, both of which are relativley expensive.

I'm open to any idea's on better solutions too!

-Matt Daubney

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Matthew Daubney]

LeeGroups wrote:
>> 
>> Just something to consider;
>>
>> If you can find a lower spec PC, (1 Ghz era is plenty) it would be 
>> better; your specs are very high for the occasional bit of traffic. That 
>> kind of PC will idle around 180 watts, running that 24/7 will add £32.25 
>> [1] a year to your electricity bill.
>>
>> [1] http://www.ukpower.co.uk/running-costs-elec.asp
>> 
> I think your sums are wrong there chap...
> I had a figure of about £60/yr in mind for my 60w Shuttle server...
> The website comes to a figure of £150/yr for a 180w server...
>
>
>   
Hmmm.  maybe it's time to invest in that broken laptop I never 
dreamed of..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[LeeGroups]

> 
> Just something to consider;
>
> If you can find a lower spec PC, (1 Ghz era is plenty) it would be 
> better; your specs are very high for the occasional bit of traffic. That 
> kind of PC will idle around 180 watts, running that 24/7 will add £32.25 
> [1] a year to your electricity bill.
>
> [1] http://www.ukpower.co.uk/running-costs-elec.asp
I think your sums are wrong there chap...
I had a figure of about £60/yr in mind for my 60w Shuttle server...
The website comes to a figure of £150/yr for a 180w server...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Kris Douglas]

On 03/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Can you tell me what I can get, on a CD or DVD that I can load straight
> onto a bare computer that will work without any or to many problems?
>
> James.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Tom Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* British Ubuntu Talk 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers
>
> We use old laptops as servers for some tasks, mostly IBM ThinkPads because
> they're very well supported in Ubuntu and because they last for years. You
> don't get the performance you'd expect from a full-size unit and
> expansion/redundancy options are limited, but in this context (home
> networks) they're ideal. Power savings have already been mentioned, but note
> that you can also run an average laptop from AA batteries, solar panels,
> wind turbines etc, making mains power more a convenience than a necessity.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
> Kris Douglas wrote:
>
>
>
> On 03/10/2007, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for
> >
> > > > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its
> > got
> > > > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
> > > > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard
> > disk
> > > > its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of
> > course
> > > > it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media
> > happily
> > > > enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a
> > > > power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
> > > I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
> > > control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
> > >
> > > Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control
> > servers"
> > > because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
> > >
> > > For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
> > >
> > Talking of laptops for servers, I purchased an old and quite battered
> > Satellite Pro laptop from  a local place that deals with redundant
> > City Council equipment. I paid £50 for it and use it to run Ubuntu
> > server 6.06 LTS. I've had it about a year now, it runs my cron jobs
> > [the main reason I bought it] and SSH server so that I can connect to
> > my home network when at work. It's battery holds just enough charge to
> > keep it going through a power cut -- which beats having to get an
> > expensive UPS.
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> >
>
> I've always thought about that, think of the money you could save and the
> space you could save if you used laptops as servers, you can stack them 4
> high and have all you need. They have batteries for backup and you can get
> 250gig drives for them, what more could you need? Oh yea, integrated display
> , keyboard and mouse.
>
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Ok, first, That was rather big and bold... Secondly...if you want to ask a
question please start a new thread. Thirdly, Ubuntu might work on your
machine, but how can we tell you if you don't tell us what kind of computer
you run? What are your hardware specs/info?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[james]

Can you tell me what I can get, on a CD or DVD that I can load straight onto a 
bare computer that will work without any or to many problems?

James.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Bamford 
  To: British Ubuntu Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers


  We use old laptops as servers for some tasks, mostly IBM ThinkPads because 
they're very well supported in Ubuntu and because they last for years. You 
don't get the performance you'd expect from a full-size unit and 
expansion/redundancy options are limited, but in this context (home networks) 
they're ideal. Power savings have already been mentioned, but note that you can 
also run an average laptop from AA batteries, solar panels, wind turbines etc, 
making mains power more a convenience than a necessity.

  Regards,
  Tom

  Kris Douglas wrote: 



On 03/10/2007, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  > > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for 
  > > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got
  > > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
  > > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk 
  > > its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of 
course
  > > it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media 
happily
  > > enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a 
  > > power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
  > I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
  > control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
  >
  > Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control 
servers" 
  > because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
  >
  > For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
  >
  Talking of laptops for servers, I purchased an old and quite battered 
  Satellite Pro laptop from  a local place that deals with redundant
  City Council equipment. I paid £50 for it and use it to run Ubuntu
  server 6.06 LTS. I've had it about a year now, it runs my cron jobs
  [the main reason I bought it] and SSH server so that I can connect to 
  my home network when at work. It's battery holds just enough charge to
  keep it going through a power cut -- which beats having to get an
  expensive UPS.
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I've always thought about that, think of the money you could save and the 
space you could save if you used laptops as servers, you can stack them 4 high 
and have all you need. They have batteries for backup and you can get 250gig 
drives for them, what more could you need? Oh yea, integrated display , 
keyboard and mouse. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Tom Bamford]

We use old laptops as servers for some tasks, mostly IBM ThinkPads 
because they're very well supported in Ubuntu and because they last for 
years. You don't get the performance you'd expect from a full-size unit 
and expansion/redundancy options are limited, but in this context (home 
networks) they're ideal. Power savings have already been mentioned, but 
note that you can also run an average laptop from AA batteries, solar 
panels, wind turbines etc, making mains power more a convenience than a 
necessity.


Regards,
Tom

Kris Douglas wrote:



On 03/10/2007, *Philip Newborough* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got
it for
> > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay.
Its got
> > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and
with
> > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the
hard disk
> > its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;).
Of course
> > it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams
media happily
> > enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere
with a
> > power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
> I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
> control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
>
> Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control
servers"
> because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
>
> For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from
www.linitx.com 
>
Talking of laptops for servers, I purchased an old and quite battered
Satellite Pro laptop from  a local place that deals with redundant
City Council equipment. I paid £50 for it and use it to run Ubuntu
server 6.06 LTS. I've had it about a year now, it runs my cron jobs
[the main reason I bought it] and SSH server so that I can connect to
my home network when at work. It's battery holds just enough charge to
keep it going through a power cut -- which beats having to get an
expensive UPS.
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I've always thought about that, think of the money you could save and 
the space you could save if you used laptops as servers, you can stack 
them 4 high and have all you need. They have batteries for backup and 
you can get 250gig drives for them, what more could you need? Oh yea, 
integrated display , keyboard and mouse.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Kris Douglas]

On 03/10/2007, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for
> > > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got
> > > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
> > > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk
> > > its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of
> course
> > > it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media
> happily
> > > enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a
> > > power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
> > I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
> > control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
> >
> > Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers"
> > because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
> >
> > For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
> >
> Talking of laptops for servers, I purchased an old and quite battered
> Satellite Pro laptop from  a local place that deals with redundant
> City Council equipment. I paid £50 for it and use it to run Ubuntu
> server 6.06 LTS. I've had it about a year now, it runs my cron jobs
> [the main reason I bought it] and SSH server so that I can connect to
> my home network when at work. It's battery holds just enough charge to
> keep it going through a power cut -- which beats having to get an
> expensive UPS.
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> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
>

I've always thought about that, think of the money you could save and the
space you could save if you used laptops as servers, you can stack them 4
high and have all you need. They have batteries for backup and you can get
250gig drives for them, what more could you need? Oh yea, integrated display
, keyboard and mouse.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Philip Newborough]

On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for
> > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got
> > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
> > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk
> > its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of course
> > it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media happily
> > enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a
> > power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
> I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web
> control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)
>
> Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers"
> because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!
>
> For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com
>
Talking of laptops for servers, I purchased an old and quite battered
Satellite Pro laptop from  a local place that deals with redundant
City Council equipment. I paid £50 for it and use it to run Ubuntu
server 6.06 LTS. I've had it about a year now, it runs my cron jobs
[the main reason I bought it] and SSH server so that I can connect to
my home network when at work. It's battery holds just enough charge to
keep it going through a power cut -- which beats having to get an
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Mark Harrison]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for
> free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got
> 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
> speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk
> its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of course
> it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media happily
> enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a
> power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.
I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web 
control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.)

Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers" 
because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully!

For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Darren.Mansell]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ubuntu-uk-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Daubney
> Sent: 02 October 2007 20:19
> To: British Ubuntu Talk
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers
> 
> James Grabham wrote:
> > If its an internet connection it will be Mb (mega bits) not MB (mega
> > bytes) 8 bits in a byte ergo 8 megabits in a megabyte.  :]
> >
> > Oh, and your server - whats the power consumption on that thing!?
> >
> >
> Unfortunatley at the moment I'm stuck with the boxes I have and this
one
> happened to be my old gaming desktop. The other boxes I have would be
> fine as a webserver, but pants as a fileserver as they all have very
> small (4gb) HD's. The gaming box has SATA drives and the other ones
are
> IDE so a swap around is a no go.
> 
> If another lower spec box turns up then I'll nab it, but I can't
afford
> to buy any new bits at the moment,  so I'm stuck with what I have!
> 
> -Matt Daubney
> 
> --

I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for
free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got
80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with
speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on the hard disk
its very quiet. Ideal home server even if I say so myself ;). Of course
it can't do stuff like be a MythTV backend but it streams media happily
enough. Oh and it has wifi built in so I can put it anywhere with a
power outlet. (on a shelf somewhere or in a cupboard.)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Matthew Daubney]

James Grabham wrote:
> If its an internet connection it will be Mb (mega bits) not MB (mega 
> bytes) 8 bits in a byte ergo 8 megabits in a megabyte.  :]
>
> Oh, and your server - whats the power consumption on that thing!?
>
>
Unfortunatley at the moment I'm stuck with the boxes I have and this one 
happened to be my old gaming desktop. The other boxes I have would be 
fine as a webserver, but pants as a fileserver as they all have very 
small (4gb) HD's. The gaming box has SATA drives and the other ones are 
IDE so a swap around is a no go.

If another lower spec box turns up then I'll nab it, but I can't afford 
to buy any new bits at the moment,  so I'm stuck with what I have!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Michael Wood]

John McCourt wrote:
> Hi, the servers section on http://ubuntuforums.com is
> pretty good for those sort of questions. I also run a
> file/webserver off virgin and it works pretty well.
> Ubuntu has a built in firewall but if you want to make
> any configurations to it then firestarter is a good
> gui for your firewall. I use postfix for outgoing mail
> because it's very easy to set up and have my domains
> point to my ip. I buy my UK domains from
> http://123-reg.co.uk and my .com domains from
> http://nameroute.com and use http://zoneedit.com as my
> dns provider. I think it's important to restrict
> access to certain folders on your server. For example
> you dont want random people being able to go to
> http://www.yourname.com/phpmyadmin. For my ftp server
> I use gprofftpd which is a version of proftpd that has
> a  nice gui. You'll never have a fully secure system
> but if you use the advice given by people here and on
> the forums then you should be fine.
>
>
> --- Matthew Daubney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've had a machine running as an ad-hoc web/file
>> servery thing across my 
>> home internet connection (shared 20Mb Virgin Media
>> stuffs (MB? I always 
>> get the upper/lower case B's confused)) and have
>> considered turning the 
>> machine solely over to this after getting my nice
>> shiny new dell laptop.
>>
>> If I turned it to this permanantly (as I hope to!)
>> I'd obviously need a 
>> bit more info on setting it up re:security and
>> suggested programs (I'd 
>> end up largley running Apache/PHP/mod_mono as I'm
>> considering going into 
>> web design and it'd be good practice to get used to
>> as many languages as 
>> possible).
>>
>> I'd also be considering using it as a mailserver,
>> but have never set one 
>> of these up, ever. So any advice on mail packages
>> and the like would 
>> also be much appreciated!!
>>
>> The box itself is a 4GHz Hyperthreaded P4 with 1.5gb
>> of RAM and 2*250gb 

Just something to consider;

If you can find a lower spec PC, (1 Ghz era is plenty) it would be 
better; your specs are very high for the occasional bit of traffic. That 
kind of PC will idle around 180 watts, running that 24/7 will add £32.25 
[1] a year to your electricity bill.

[1] http://www.ukpower.co.uk/running-costs-elec.asp

- Michael

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[James Grabham]

If its an internet connection it will be Mb (mega bits) not MB (mega bytes)
8 bits in a byte ergo 8 megabits in a megabyte.  :]

Oh, and your server - whats the power consumption on that thing!?

On 10/1/07, Matthew Daubney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I've had a machine running as an ad-hoc web/file servery thing across my
> home internet connection (shared 20Mb Virgin Media stuffs (MB? I always
> get the upper/lower case B's confused)) and have considered turning the
> machine solely over to this after getting my nice shiny new dell laptop.
>
> If I turned it to this permanantly (as I hope to!) I'd obviously need a
> bit more info on setting it up re:security and suggested programs (I'd
> end up largley running Apache/PHP/mod_mono as I'm considering going into
> web design and it'd be good practice to get used to as many languages as
> possible).
>
> I'd also be considering using it as a mailserver, but have never set one
> of these up, ever. So any advice on mail packages and the like would
> also be much appreciated!!
>
> The box itself is a 4GHz Hyperthreaded P4 with 1.5gb of RAM and 2*250gb
> hdd's (it also currently has 2 flatscreens, but it won't need them once
> it's been serverised!)
>
> Thanks very much (as usual) for any info!
>
> -Matt Daubney
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[John McCourt]

Hi, the servers section on http://ubuntuforums.com is
pretty good for those sort of questions. I also run a
file/webserver off virgin and it works pretty well.
Ubuntu has a built in firewall but if you want to make
any configurations to it then firestarter is a good
gui for your firewall. I use postfix for outgoing mail
because it's very easy to set up and have my domains
point to my ip. I buy my UK domains from
http://123-reg.co.uk and my .com domains from
http://nameroute.com and use http://zoneedit.com as my
dns provider. I think it's important to restrict
access to certain folders on your server. For example
you dont want random people being able to go to
http://www.yourname.com/phpmyadmin. For my ftp server
I use gprofftpd which is a version of proftpd that has
a  nice gui. You'll never have a fully secure system
but if you use the advice given by people here and on
the forums then you should be fine.


--- Matthew Daubney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I've had a machine running as an ad-hoc web/file
> servery thing across my 
> home internet connection (shared 20Mb Virgin Media
> stuffs (MB? I always 
> get the upper/lower case B's confused)) and have
> considered turning the 
> machine solely over to this after getting my nice
> shiny new dell laptop.
> 
> If I turned it to this permanantly (as I hope to!)
> I'd obviously need a 
> bit more info on setting it up re:security and
> suggested programs (I'd 
> end up largley running Apache/PHP/mod_mono as I'm
> considering going into 
> web design and it'd be good practice to get used to
> as many languages as 
> possible).
> 
> I'd also be considering using it as a mailserver,
> but have never set one 
> of these up, ever. So any advice on mail packages
> and the like would 
> also be much appreciated!!
> 
> The box itself is a 4GHz Hyperthreaded P4 with 1.5gb
> of RAM and 2*250gb 
> hdd's (it also currently has 2 flatscreens, but it
> won't need them once 
> it's been serverised!)
> 
> Thanks very much (as usual) for any info!
> 
> -Matt Daubney
> 
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> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

[Daniel Lamb]

Wait for the newest version of ubuntu server which will install all those 
features, for admin id use webmin. My advice for security would be make sure 
you setup a firewall and also make sure you have all the permissions on files 
shared on the web server set to the usual.
Regards, daniel

  Original message  
From: Matthew Daubney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 1 Oct 2007 1:24pm -07:00
To: British Ubuntu Talk 
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

Hey all,

I've had a machine running as an ad-hoc web/file servery thing across my 
home internet connection (shared 20Mb Virgin Media stuffs (MB? I always 
get the upper/lower case B's confused)) and have considered turning the 
machine solely over to this after getting my nice shiny new dell laptop.

If I turned it to this permanantly (as I hope to!) I'd obviously need a 
bit more info on setting it up re:security and suggested programs (I'd 
end up largley running Apache/PHP/mod_mono as I'm considering going into 
web design and it'd be good practice to get used to as many languages as 
possible).

I'd also be considering using it as a mailserver, but have never set one 
of these up, ever. So any advice on mail packages and the like would 
also be much appreciated!!

The box itself is a 4GHz Hyperthreaded P4 with 1.5gb of RAM and 2*250gb 
hdd's (it also currently has 2 flatscreens, but it won't need them once 
it's been serverised!)

Thanks very much (as usual) for any info!

-Matt Daubney

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