Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-11 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Facts ? Where are the facts ? All I hear is "When the right time comes those 
who lived will talk for
themselves". Is that what you call facts ?
Fact is that you cannot give me the numbers. In the same vein you should not 
have asked brother Ssenyange to tell you where ""all the UPC supporters 
(civilian) in Luwero" are.

Yes, you better call it a day !

Kasangwawo


From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:11:28 -
As you always work on presumtion!  i work on facts. and as an individual i
feel very reposible if i give any information out that might put any of the
victims/ survivors at risk. i do not want blood on my hand. And I take it
that there is nothing usefull in the continuing and i call it a day.
Toro

- Original Message -
From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> Toro,
>
> I presume the answer to my question is that you don't know. Am I correct 
?
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:18:28 -
> >
> >Jonah kasangwawo,
> >
> >If you ever bothered to try and find out about the victims/ survivors i
am
> >sure they they are there to talk for themselves i.e if the feel safe to
> >talk
> >to you. Do not forget they  are witness / and  or hold important 
evidence
> >that NRA/M would not want to leave.! They are spoted all over the 
country
> >and outside and are not only UPCs. When the right time comes those who
> >lived
> >will talk for
> >themselves there is no doubt about that.
> >
> >Toro
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >
> >
> > > Toro,
> > >
> > > before you ask brother Ssenyange about what happened to them, can 
you
> >give
> > > us an idea about the number of "all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
> >Luwero"
> > > ? Apart from gook and Mulindwa who claim to have been in Luweero 
then
> >(and
> > > both are alive and kicking), how many were there ?
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > > >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\  
Semakula
> > > >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:47:41 -
> > > >
> > > >Ssenya nyange our brother,
> > > >
> > > >Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
> >Luwero
> >at
> > > >the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang
do
> >to
> > > >them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in
Luwero
> > > >today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us 
what
> > > >happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war
to
> >now
> > > >then we can start some sincere discussions.
> > > >
> > > >Toro
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> > > >Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ 
Semakula
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mw. Semakula,
> > > > >
> > > > >  Some netters are still in denial for some 
selfish
> > > >reasons.
> > > > > People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in
> >Luweero
> > > >or
> > > > > near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities
happening!
> > > >Their
> > > > > anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC 
to
> > > >continue
> > > > > where they stopped i

Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-10 Thread Lisa Toro
As you always work on presumtion!  i work on facts. and as an individual i
feel very reposible if i give any information out that might put any of the
victims/ survivors at risk. i do not want blood on my hand. And I take it
that there is nothing usefull in the continuing and i call it a day.

Toro

- Original Message -
From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula


> Toro,
>
> I presume the answer to my question is that you don't know. Am I correct ?
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:18:28 -
> >
> >Jonah kasangwawo,
> >
> >If you ever bothered to try and find out about the victims/ survivors i
am
> >sure they they are there to talk for themselves i.e if the feel safe to
> >talk
> >to you. Do not forget they  are witness / and  or hold important evidence
> >that NRA/M would not want to leave.! They are spoted all over the country
> >and outside and are not only UPCs. When the right time comes those who
> >lived
> >will talk for
> >themselves there is no doubt about that.
> >
> >Toro
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >
> >
> > > Toro,
> > >
> > > before you ask brother Ssenyange about what happened to them, can you
> >give
> > > us an idea about the number of "all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
> >Luwero"
> > > ? Apart from gook and Mulindwa who claim to have been in Luweero then
> >(and
> > > both are alive and kicking), how many were there ?
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > > >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\  Semakula
> > > >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:47:41 -
> > > >
> > > >Ssenya nyange our brother,
> > > >
> > > >Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
> >Luwero
> >at
> > > >the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang
do
> >to
> > > >them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in
Luwero
> > > >today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us what
> > > >happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war
to
> >now
> > > >then we can start some sincere discussions.
> > > >
> > > >Toro
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> > > >Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mw. Semakula,
> > > > >
> > > > >  Some netters are still in denial for some selfish
> > > >reasons.
> > > > > People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in
> >Luweero
> > > >or
> > > > > near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities
happening!
> > > >Their
> > > > > anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC to
> > > >continue
> > > > > where they stopped if given a chance. What future do Uganda have
> >under
> > > >UPC?
> > > > >
> > > > > J. SSenyange
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
> > > > >
> > > &g

Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-10 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Toro,

I presume the answer to my question is that you don't know. Am I correct ?

Kasangwawo


From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:18:28 -
Jonah kasangwawo,

If you ever bothered to try and find out about the victims/ survivors i am
sure they they are there to talk for themselves i.e if the feel safe to 
talk
to you. Do not forget they  are witness / and  or hold important evidence
that NRA/M would not want to leave.! They are spoted all over the country
and outside and are not only UPCs. When the right time comes those who 
lived
will talk for
themselves there is no doubt about that.

Toro

- Original Message -
From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> Toro,
>
> before you ask brother Ssenyange about what happened to them, can you 
give
> us an idea about the number of "all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
Luwero"
> ? Apart from gook and Mulindwa who claim to have been in Luweero then 
(and
> both are alive and kicking), how many were there ?
>
> Kasangwawo
>
> >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\  Semakula
> >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:47:41 -
> >
> >Ssenya nyange our brother,
> >
> >Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in 
Luwero
at
> >the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang do 
to
> >them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in Luwero
> >today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us what
> >happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war to
now
> >then we can start some sincere discussions.
> >
> >Toro
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> >Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Mw. Semakula,
> > >
> > >  Some netters are still in denial for some selfish
> >reasons.
> > > People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in
Luweero
> >or
> > > near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities happening!
> >Their
> > > anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC to
> >continue
> > > where they stopped if given a chance. What future do Uganda have 
under
> >UPC?
> > >
> > > J. SSenyange
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-
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Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-03 Thread Lisa Toro
Jonah kasangwawo,

If you ever bothered to try and find out about the victims/ survivors i am
sure they they are there to talk for themselves i.e if the feel safe to talk
to you. Do not forget they  are witness / and  or hold important evidence
that NRA/M would not want to leave.! They are spoted all over the country
and outside and are not only UPCs. When the right time comes those who lived
will talk for
themselves there is no doubt about that.

Toro

- Original Message -
From: jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula


> Toro,
>
> before you ask brother Ssenyange about what happened to them, can you give
> us an idea about the number of "all the UPC supporters (civilian) in
Luwero"
> ? Apart from gook and Mulindwa who claim to have been in Luweero then (and
> both are alive and kicking), how many were there ?
>
> Kasangwawo
>
> >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\  Semakula
> >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:47:41 -
> >
> >Ssenya nyange our brother,
> >
> >Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in Luwero
at
> >the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang do to
> >them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in Luwero
> >today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us what
> >happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war to
now
> >then we can start some sincere discussions.
> >
> >Toro
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> >Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Mw. Semakula,
> > >
> > >  Some netters are still in denial for some selfish
> >reasons.
> > > People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in
Luweero
> >or
> > > near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities happening!
> >Their
> > > anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC to
> >continue
> > > where they stopped if given a chance. What future do Uganda have under
> >UPC?
> > >
> > > J. SSenyange
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-02 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Toro,

before you ask brother Ssenyange about what happened to them, can you give 
us an idea about the number of "all the UPC supporters (civilian) in Luwero" 
? Apart from gook and Mulindwa who claim to have been in Luweero then (and 
both are alive and kicking), how many were there ?

Kasangwawo

From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\  Semakula
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:47:41 -
Ssenya nyange our brother,

Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in Luwero at
the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang do to
them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in Luwero
today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us what
happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war to now
then we can start some sincere discussions.
Toro

- Original Message -
From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula
>
> Mw. Semakula,
>
>  Some netters are still in denial for some selfish
reasons.
> People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in Luweero
or
> near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities happening! 
Their
> anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC to 
continue
> where they stopped if given a chance. What future do Uganda have under
UPC?
>
> J. SSenyange
>
>
>
> >Note: forwarded message attached.
> >
> >
> >-
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
>
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Re: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-02-01 Thread Lisa Toro
Ssenya nyange our brother,

Can you tell the world where all the UPC supporters (civilian) in Luwero at
the time of NRA/M incursions in Luwero are? What did Musevnis' Gang do to
them? Are you telling us that of all who lived and still live in Luwero
today there were and  are no UPC supporters? If you can tell us what
happened to those UPC supporters then and through out the NRA/M war to now
then we can start some sincere discussions.

Toro

- Original Message -
From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula


>
> Mw. Semakula,
>
>  Some netters are still in denial for some selfish
reasons.
> People like Mulindwa, Akanga and Matek who claim to have been in Luweero
or
> near Luweero at that time did not "see" these atrocities happening! Their
> anti Ganda campains are an indication that they still want UPC to continue
> where they stopped if given a chance. What future do Uganda have under
UPC?
>
> J. SSenyange
>
>
>
> >Note: forwarded message attached.
> >
> >
> >-
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
>
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RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"

2004-01-31 Thread Lutimba Matovu
Pure Madness
--- Joicye nansikombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear  Ugandans: 
> I salute to all of you and Happy New Year.
>  
> Fellow Ugandans, I am replying to all those letters
> or people who were interviewed.
>  
> I must say there is something absolutely wrong with
> Ugandans.  May be because they 
> have been under confusion for the last 18 years and
> they are just dummy, they can not 
> remember anything in this world.
>  
> You can sleep!!, Yes you can sleep.  I am asking you
> one Question:  Where did Yoweri
> Museveni fight in Gorilla War?  In heaven! or In the
> Ocean?
>  
> Museveni Kaguta  Quarrel, Nasty killer, Layer he
> killed our children up to day in the North of
> Uganda. Lied the whole world and now the world has
> came to know him. he continued his killing by
> killing Hima in Rwanda, and Congo with his
> nottorious Government.  
>  
> Musveni is A Saddist, Hitla of the Mordern World.
> When they entered Uganda while fighing, What
> Uniforms where they wearing!!!  not of those he had
> killed??
> I am asking you these questions:
> Before Museven and his Nasty Government came to
> Power in Uganda.  Did we have 
> houses/buildings?  My answer is We had very very
> beautiful, tall and clearn Buildings.  Which I
> understand are full of corrupted click, family Tree.
> What happened to our beautiful Hospitals?  Roads, 
> Buses to help people for poor peoples
> transportation?  Who killed people in Lweroro Not
> him?  Where are Jobs for 
> people to enjoy Uganda?  Are the jobs for the people
> of Uganda or for the Family Tree?
> I have never seen any President in Uganda who forced
> people in the Camps as if 
> there not in their own country, Except Yoweri Kaguta
> Museveni. Ugandas have suffered.
> No have I seen people in thousands being burnt in
> Rail Wagons like fish. Except 
> Museveni's Government.  I have never seen many
> Uganda running out Uganda
> than during the Movement Government. There allot to
> write but I feel bad because My
> country as been robbed and denied life. Museveni has
> killed my people and the world is 
> just looking as though it is Museven who owns
> Uganda.
> Fellow Uganda What did we do to deserve this time of
> Government?
> Please, Lord hear our prayers and remove this
> monster Museveni and His NRM/NRM-O.
>  
> Only his family and Family tree are enjoying while
> ours are suffering and dying.
> Fellow Ugandans Weak up and remove that Monster. 
> Let it go for good. Weak up 
> Fellow Ugandans.
> Our Uganda is blooding Blood.
>  
>  
> their beloved Country more than I have seen during
> Museveni's Government.
> 
> 
> 
> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
> It is more than that
> 
> We can work the whole night without anybody
> disturbing; soldiers who 
> 
> used to disturb us no longer do that.
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitayo
> Potosi
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"
> 
>  
> 
> "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 18 years of Movt rule
> 
> By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango
> 
> Jan 27, 2004
> 
>  
> 
> As Uganda celebrated 18 years under the rule of
> President Museveni and his 
> 
> Movement group yesterday, The Monitor’s Mercy Nalugo
> and Patrick Onyango 
> 
> went around Kampala streets asking about the best
> and worst of this 
> 
> government: -
> 
>  
> 
> Mr Godfrey Kayongo, boda boda cyclist
> 
> Best: We can work the whole night without anybody
> disturbing; soldiers who 
> 
> used to disturb us no longer do that.
> 
>  
> 
> Worst: There are no jobs; even those who went to
> school are like us. We 
> 
> didn’t go to school and everybody is crying no jobs,
> no jobs. Industries 
> 
> that used to offer employment to people have all
> closed down and the few 
> 
> that are remaining cannot accommodate everybody.
> 
>  
> 
> Even coffee factories have all been closed and yet
> coffee is the major cash 
> 
> crop in Uganda. Now where do you expect people to
> get jobs?
> 
>  
> 
> Mr Deo Ssengooba, trader
> 
> Best: We have peace and there is nobody harassing us
> like in the past.
> 
>  
> 
> Worst: High taxes have made matters worse for poor
> Ugandans. The little we 
> 
> get goes to government in form of taxes. We are only
> praying that government 
> 
> should either remove or reduce some of these taxes.
> 
>  
> 
&

FW: Fwd: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"\ Semakula

2004-01-31 Thread ssenya nyange
bserver Group, suggesting tha!
 t members of the group measured African elections by different standards than those used elsewhere or that they feared civil war if the results were questioned. Indeed, popular perception of a stolen election actually helped bring about the civil war the Commonwealth Observer Group may have feared"
Source: http://countrystudies.us/uganda/
Obote, you may not recall, is the mentor of both Idi Amin and Yoweri Museveni as both were his protoges. Museveni was an operative in the notorious General Service -- a secret police unit that terrorized Ugandans in Obote I. During most of Obote I, Buganda was under a state of emergence (1966 -1971). There several massacres in that period, e.g. students of St. Mary's College, Kisubi,  Nakulabye, etc. There was also detention without trial, and many other terrible things that Obote visited upon us. Some are detailed in Grace Ibingira's book, African Upheals Since Independence -- which I have excerpted on Ugandanet quite a bit, with more to come.
Those who forget history are likely to repeat the same mistakes ... we must never forget how UPC decimated and brutalized us!
SsemakulaOriginal Message Follows
From: Joicye nansikombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:47:35 -0800 (PST)

Dear  Ugandans:
I salute to all of you and Happy New Year.

Fellow Ugandans, I am replying to all those letters or people who were interviewed.

I must say there is something absolutely wrong with Ugandans.  May be because they
have been under confusion for the last 18 years and they are just dummy, they can not
remember anything in this world.

You can sleep!!, Yes you can sleep.  I am asking you one Question:  Where did Yoweri
Museveni fight in Gorilla War?  In heaven! or In the Ocean?

Museveni Kaguta  Quarrel, Nasty killer, Layer he killed our children up to day in the North of Uganda. Lied the whole world and now the world has came to know him. he continued his killing by killing Hima in Rwanda, and Congo with his nottorious Government.

Musveni is A Saddist, Hitla of the Mordern World.
When they entered Uganda while fighing, What Uniforms where they wearing!!!  not of those he had killed??
I am asking you these questions:
Before Museven and his Nasty Government came to Power in Uganda.  Did we have
houses/buildings?  My answer is We had very very beautiful, tall and clearn Buildings.  Which I understand are full of corrupted click, family Tree.
What happened to our beautiful Hospitals?  Roads,  Buses to help people for poor peoples transportation?  Who killed people in Lweroro Not him?  Where are Jobs for
people to enjoy Uganda?  Are the jobs for the people of Uganda or for the Family Tree?
I have never seen any President in Uganda who forced people in the Camps as if
there not in their own country, Except Yoweri Kaguta Museveni. Ugandas have suffered.
No have I seen people in thousands being burnt in Rail Wagons like fish. Except
Museveni's Government.  I have never seen many Uganda running out Uganda
than during the Movement Government. There allot to write but I feel bad because My
country as been robbed and denied life. Museveni has killed my people and the world is
just looking as though it is Museven who owns Uganda.
Fellow Uganda What did we do to deserve this time of Government?
Please, Lord hear our prayers and remove this monster Museveni and His NRM/NRM-O.

Only his family and Family tree are enjoying while ours are suffering and dying.
Fellow Ugandans Weak up and remove that Monster.  Let it go for good. Weak up
Fellow Ugandans.
Our Uganda is blooding Blood.


their beloved Country more than I have seen during Museveni's Government.



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We can work the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who

used to disturb us no longer do that.



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By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango

Jan 27, 2004



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  Nakulabye, etc. There was also detention without trial, and many other terrible things that Obote visited upon us. Some are detailed in Grace Ibingira's book, African Upheals Since Independence -- which I have excerpted on Ugandanet quite a bit, with more to come.
Those who forget history are likely to repeat the same mistakes ... we must never forget how UPC decimated and brutalized us!
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From: Joicye nansikombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dear  Ugandans: 
I salute to all of you and Happy New Year. 

Fellow Ugandans, I am replying to all those letters or people who were interviewed. 

I must say there is something absolutely wrong with Ugandans.  May be because they 
have been under confusion for the last 18 years and they are just dummy, they can not 
remember anything in this world. 

You can sleep!!, Yes you can sleep.  I am asking you one Question:  Where did Yoweri 
Museveni fight in Gorilla War?  In heaven! or In the Ocean? 

Museveni Kaguta  Quarrel, Nasty killer, Layer he killed our children up to day in the North of Uganda. Lied the whole world and now the world has came to know him. he continued his killing by killing Hima in Rwanda, and Congo with his nottorious Government. 

Musveni is A Saddist, Hitla of the Mordern World. 
When they entered Uganda while fighing, What Uniforms where they wearing!!!  not of those he had killed?? 
I am asking you these questions: 
Before Museven and his Nasty Government came to Power in Uganda.  Did we have 
houses/buildings?  My answer is We had very very beautiful, tall and clearn Buildings.  Which I understand are full of corrupted click, family Tree. 
What happened to our beautiful Hospitals?  Roads,  Buses to help people for poor peoples transportation?  Who killed people in Lweroro Not him?  Where are Jobs for 
people to enjoy Uganda?  Are the jobs for the people of Uganda or for the Family Tree? 
I have never seen any President in Uganda who forced people in the Camps as if 
there not in their own country, Except Yoweri Kaguta Museveni. Ugandas have suffered. 
No have I seen people in thousands being burnt in Rail Wagons like fish. Except 
Museveni's Government.  I have never seen many Uganda running out Uganda 
than during the Movement Government. There allot to write but I feel bad because My 
country as been robbed and denied life. Museveni has killed my people and the world is 
just looking as though it is Museven who owns Uganda. 
Fellow Uganda What did we do to deserve this time of Government? 
Please, Lord hear our prayers and remove this monster Museveni and His NRM/NRM-O. 

Only his family and Family tree are enjoying while ours are suffering and dying. 
Fellow Ugandans Weak up and remove that Monster.  Let it go for good. Weak up 
Fellow Ugandans. 
Our Uganda is blooding Blood. 


their beloved Country more than I have seen during Museveni's Government. 



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We can work the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who 

used to disturb us no longer do that. 



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By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango 

Jan 27, 2004 



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Dear  Ugandans: 
I salute to all of you and Happy New Year.
 
Fellow Ugandans, I am replying to all those letters or people who were interviewed.
 
I must say there is something absolutely wrong with Ugandans.  May be because they 
have been under confusion for the last 18 years and they are just dummy, they can not 
remember anything in this world.
 
You can sleep!!, Yes you can sleep.  I am asking you one Question:  Where did Yoweri
Museveni fight in Gorilla War?  In heaven! or In the Ocean?
 
Museveni Kaguta  Quarrel, Nasty killer, Layer he killed our children up to day in the North of Uganda. Lied the whole world and now the world has came to know him. he continued his killing by killing Hima in Rwanda, and Congo with his nottorious Government.  
 
Musveni is A Saddist, Hitla of the Mordern World.
When they entered Uganda while fighing, What Uniforms where they wearing!!!  not of those he had killed??
I am asking you these questions:
Before Museven and his Nasty Government came to Power in Uganda.  Did we have 
houses/buildings?  My answer is We had very very beautiful, tall and clearn Buildings.  Which I understand are full of corrupted click, family Tree.
What happened to our beautiful Hospitals?  Roads,  Buses to help people for poor peoples transportation?  Who killed people in Lweroro Not him?  Where are Jobs for 
people to enjoy Uganda?  Are the jobs for the people of Uganda or for the Family Tree?
I have never seen any President in Uganda who forced people in the Camps as if 
there not in their own country, Except Yoweri Kaguta Museveni. Ugandas have suffered.
No have I seen people in thousands being burnt in Rail Wagons like fish. Except 
Museveni's Government.  I have never seen many Uganda running out Uganda
than during the Movement Government. There allot to write but I feel bad because My
country as been robbed and denied life. Museveni has killed my people and the world is 
just looking as though it is Museven who owns Uganda.
Fellow Uganda What did we do to deserve this time of Government?
Please, Lord hear our prayers and remove this monster Museveni and His NRM/NRM-O.
 
Only his family and Family tree are enjoying while ours are suffering and dying.
Fellow Ugandans Weak up and remove that Monster.  Let it go for good. Weak up 
Fellow Ugandans.
Our Uganda is blooding Blood.
 
 
their beloved Country more than I have seen during Museveni's Government.









It is more than that
We can work the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who 
used to disturb us no longer do that.
 
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"Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"

 
18 years of Movt rule
By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango
Jan 27, 2004
 
As Uganda celebrated 18 years under the rule of President Museveni and his 
Movement group yesterday, The Monitor’s Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango 
went around Kampala streets asking about the best and worst of this 
government: -
 
Mr Godfrey Kayongo, boda boda cyclist
Best: We can work the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who 
used to disturb us no longer do that.
 
Worst: There are no jobs; even those who went to school are like us. We 
didn’t go to school and everybody is crying no jobs, no jobs. Industries 
that used to offer employment to people have all closed down and the few 
that are remaining cannot accommodate everybody.
 
Even coffee factories have all been closed and yet coffee is the major cash 
crop in Uganda. Now where do you expect people to get jobs?
 
Mr Deo Ssengooba, trader
Best: We have peace and there is nobody harassing us like in the past.
 
Worst: High taxes have made matters worse for poor Ugandans. The little we 
get goes to government in form of taxes. We are only praying that government 
should either remove or reduce some of these taxes.
 
Mr Derek Nkata, accountant
Best: Museveni has stabilised the economy and brought peace in some parts of 
the country.
 
Worst: What we earn is from hand to mouth; you can’t save say Shs 5,000. If 
you try to save it, it will be in the bank for just three days then you go 
and you withdraw it.
People came from the village thinking that they would make a better living 
in Kampala but all have gone back. Things are really bad for a poor man but 
there are those, of course, who are enjoying themselves to the maximum.
 
Ms Zabeth Nansubuga, trader
Best: During Museveni’s regime, I have managed to build a house that means 
there are a lot of developments going on in the country. Soldiers no longer 
take our properties by force. UPE [Universal Primary Education] has made all 
our children to go to school.
 
Worst: I don’t have any problem with the regime.
 
Mr Tom Kyeyune, spare parts dealer
Best: President Museveni has achieved in restoring peace in the count

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It is more than that

We can work
the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who 

used to disturb us no longer
do that.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitayo
Potosi
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"

 

"Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"



 

18 years of Movt rule

By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango

Jan 27, 2004

 

As Uganda celebrated 18 years under the rule of
President Museveni and his 

Movement group yesterday, The Monitor’s Mercy
Nalugo and Patrick Onyango 

went around Kampala streets asking about the best and
worst of this 

government: -

 

Mr Godfrey Kayongo, boda boda cyclist

Best: We can work the whole night without anybody
disturbing; soldiers who 

used to disturb us no longer do that.

 

Worst: There are no jobs; even those who went to
school are like us. We 

didn’t go to school and everybody is crying no
jobs, no jobs. Industries 

that used to offer employment to people have all closed
down and the few 

that are remaining cannot accommodate everybody.

 

Even coffee factories have all been closed and yet
coffee is the major cash 

crop in Uganda. Now where do you expect people to get
jobs?

 

Mr Deo Ssengooba, trader

Best: We have peace and there is nobody harassing us
like in the past.

 

Worst: High taxes have made matters worse for poor
Ugandans. The little we 

get goes to government in form of taxes. We are only
praying that government 

should either remove or reduce some of these taxes.

 

Mr Derek Nkata, accountant

Best: Museveni has stabilised the economy and brought
peace in some parts of 

the country.

 

Worst: What we earn is from hand to mouth; you
can’t save say Shs 5,000. If 

you try to save it, it will be in the bank for just
three days then you go 

and you withdraw it.

People came from the village thinking that they would
make a better living 

in Kampala but all have gone back. Things are really
bad for a poor man but 

there are those, of course, who are enjoying
themselves to the maximum.

 

Ms Zabeth Nansubuga, trader

Best: During Museveni’s regime, I have managed
to build a house that means 

there are a lot of developments going on in the
country. Soldiers no longer 

take our properties by force. UPE [Universal Primary
Education] has made all 

our children to go to school.

 

Worst: I don’t have any problem with the regime.

 

Mr Tom Kyeyune, spare parts dealer

Best: President Museveni has achieved in restoring
peace in the country and 

checking on the army’s discipline unlike in the
past. Here we should really 

thank him.

 

Worst: He has not invested much in agriculture yet the
cost of living is 

high. Farmers now produce in plenty but without
markets and this is still a 

challenge.

 

Mr Edward Sserunjogi, market trader

Best: Government has not done much but the country is
peaceful. [Museveni] 

should in fact be given a third term for that.

 

Worst: On the other hand, poverty is on the increase
and he should find ways 

of getting people out of it. Let him also throw out corrupt
ministers and 

officials starting from local councils. They are to
blame for the increasing 

poverty because they divert money meant for districts.

 

Mr James Kalifa, newspaper vendor

Best: There is peace in the country and we are getting
on well with our work 

much as we are getting little money. People
didn’t have good houses but many 

have now constructed wonderful buildings.

 

Worst: He still has a challenge to end the war in
northern Uganda because it 

has persisted for the last 18 years.

 

Hajji Ssaka Kagimu, salesman

Best: The NRM government has brought about peace in
the country and 

development. I have constructed my own house and it
looks like that of a 

minister.

President Museveni has fought for people’s
rights and also headed the 

crusade for the fight against HIV/Aids.

 

Worst: Museveni has not invested in sports. He should
also improve on 

services in hospitals.

 

Aisha Nansubuga, food seller

Best: We, as women, have achieved much in the last 18
years because we can 

work and earn a living. Even if we are not earning
much but there is peace.

 

Worst: Museveni has failed to improve the
infrastructure especially 

upcountry.

 

Mr Kojja, self-employed

Best: Museveni has handled the economy so well in the
last 18 years. He has 

improved the infrastructure and offered free education
in primary schools.

 

Worst: Those are many including the war in northern
Uganda. He has also 

failed to unite people along political lines.

 

Mr Deo Ssimbwa, teacher

Best: The NRM government deserves a credit in as far
as bringing about peace 

and security are concerned. People can now walk freely
even at night.

 

Worst: Poverty is on the increase and the President
should not ban second 

hand clothes.

 

© 2004 The Monitor Publicatio

ugnet_: "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"

2004-01-27 Thread Mitayo Potosi
"Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo"

18 years of Movt rule
By Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango
Jan 27, 2004
As Uganda celebrated 18 years under the rule of President Museveni and his 
Movement group yesterday, The Monitor’s Mercy Nalugo and Patrick Onyango 
went around Kampala streets asking about the best and worst of this 
government: -

Mr Godfrey Kayongo, boda boda cyclist
Best: We can work the whole night without anybody disturbing; soldiers who 
used to disturb us no longer do that.

Worst: There are no jobs; even those who went to school are like us. We 
didn’t go to school and everybody is crying no jobs, no jobs. Industries 
that used to offer employment to people have all closed down and the few 
that are remaining cannot accommodate everybody.

Even coffee factories have all been closed and yet coffee is the major cash 
crop in Uganda. Now where do you expect people to get jobs?

Mr Deo Ssengooba, trader
Best: We have peace and there is nobody harassing us like in the past.
Worst: High taxes have made matters worse for poor Ugandans. The little we 
get goes to government in form of taxes. We are only praying that government 
should either remove or reduce some of these taxes.

Mr Derek Nkata, accountant
Best: Museveni has stabilised the economy and brought peace in some parts of 
the country.

Worst: What we earn is from hand to mouth; you can’t save say Shs 5,000. If 
you try to save it, it will be in the bank for just three days then you go 
and you withdraw it.
People came from the village thinking that they would make a better living 
in Kampala but all have gone back. Things are really bad for a poor man but 
there are those, of course, who are enjoying themselves to the maximum.

Ms Zabeth Nansubuga, trader
Best: During Museveni’s regime, I have managed to build a house that means 
there are a lot of developments going on in the country. Soldiers no longer 
take our properties by force. UPE [Universal Primary Education] has made all 
our children to go to school.

Worst: I don’t have any problem with the regime.

Mr Tom Kyeyune, spare parts dealer
Best: President Museveni has achieved in restoring peace in the country and 
checking on the army’s discipline unlike in the past. Here we should really 
thank him.

Worst: He has not invested much in agriculture yet the cost of living is 
high. Farmers now produce in plenty but without markets and this is still a 
challenge.

Mr Edward Sserunjogi, market trader
Best: Government has not done much but the country is peaceful. [Museveni] 
should in fact be given a third term for that.

Worst: On the other hand, poverty is on the increase and he should find ways 
of getting people out of it. Let him also throw out corrupt ministers and 
officials starting from local councils. They are to blame for the increasing 
poverty because they divert money meant for districts.

Mr James Kalifa, newspaper vendor
Best: There is peace in the country and we are getting on well with our work 
much as we are getting little money. People didn’t have good houses but many 
have now constructed wonderful buildings.

Worst: He still has a challenge to end the war in northern Uganda because it 
has persisted for the last 18 years.

Hajji Ssaka Kagimu, salesman
Best: The NRM government has brought about peace in the country and 
development. I have constructed my own house and it looks like that of a 
minister.
President Museveni has fought for people’s rights and also headed the 
crusade for the fight against HIV/Aids.

Worst: Museveni has not invested in sports. He should also improve on 
services in hospitals.

Aisha Nansubuga, food seller
Best: We, as women, have achieved much in the last 18 years because we can 
work and earn a living. Even if we are not earning much but there is peace.

Worst: Museveni has failed to improve the infrastructure especially 
upcountry.

Mr Kojja, self-employed
Best: Museveni has handled the economy so well in the last 18 years. He has 
improved the infrastructure and offered free education in primary schools.

Worst: Those are many including the war in northern Uganda. He has also 
failed to unite people along political lines.

Mr Deo Ssimbwa, teacher
Best: The NRM government deserves a credit in as far as bringing about peace 
and security are concerned. People can now walk freely even at night.

Worst: Poverty is on the increase and the President should not ban second 
hand clothes.

© 2004 The Monitor Publications

Mitayo Potosi

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