Re: [UC] New chemical burns visible

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

On 6/21/11 9:25 PM, Glenn wrote:

Considering the amount of time since the herbicide was last applied and
today, I think we are seeing the evidence of the long period of killing
potential! ( I doubt that anyone ever believed the Tony West/landscape
architect explanation about dry soil causing these bizarre burns. Dry
soil-haha.)

I did most of my research on RoundUp two years ago, but I recall reports
of finding intact chemical long after the initial application, if the
right conditions bury the chemical as we've had in Clark Park recently.
(The yellowing is also visible just outside of the mulch circles around
trees which had their roots soaked.)




these are not parodies:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk-15KUIzEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKozfMsGxXs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqJbrpvo03g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUzgJFHtEBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbQn2QKQNE




these are trying to be parodies:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_ENZLbXtQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNycZHr3AnM



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UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN







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Re: [UC] New chemical burns visible

[Richard Conrad]

Tony,   

When did any said characteristics of the listserve become any kind of a 
criterion for granting of "standing" to a request made by a Clark Park neighbor 
and a potential member / contributor of the Clark Park Partnership.  

Seems to me you just chose that ("unmoderated private listserve, which is owned 
by Villanova University") parlance as an inconvenient excuse for ignoring every 
one of Glenn's (all be they rather ambitious) requests; tell the truth,  Tony.  

Also seems very "disingenuous" of you, to say the least.  

- Rick Conrad  
 
On Jun 21, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Anthony West wrote:

> Glenn,
> 
> Nothing you post on this unmoderated private listserve, which is owned by 
> Villanova University, has any standing as a formal inquiry to any agency of 
> the City of Philadelphia or any of its Clark Park partners. No other 
> Philadelphia public business is ever done on this listserve.
> 
> If you have any information requests from any of the City Parks & Recreation 
> Dept. or any of its partners on the Clark Park Committee, contact P&R through 
> its regular channels.
> 
> -- Tony West
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/21/2011 10:10 PM, Glenn wrote:
>> 
>> Please immediately send the time, date, and location of all general and 
>> committee meetings of the Clark Park Partnership to this public listserv and 
>> the local paper, the University City Review.   (Also send the agenda of the 
>> next meeting.)
>> 
>> Prepare for inspection, the minutes and attendance records for all past 
>> meetings of the Clark Park Partnership.  Prepare the work orders of the 
>> landscape "treatments" applied to Clark Park over the past ten years and 
>> prepare to open the books of the Party for the Park.
>> 
>> Many talented local people will be able to help the  FOCP membership get to 
>> the truth about these chemicals and contractors, if we investigate with time 
>> tested procedures and principles.
>> 
>> Mr. Moyer
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [UC] New chemical burns visible

[Anthony West]

Glenn,

Nothing you post on this unmoderated private listserve, which is owned 
by Villanova University, has any standing as a formal inquiry to any 
agency of the City of Philadelphia or any of its Clark Park partners. No 
other Philadelphia public business is ever done on this listserve.


If you have any information requests from any of the City Parks & 
Recreation Dept. or any of its partners on the Clark Park Committee, 
contact P&R through its regular channels.


-- Tony West



On 6/21/2011 10:10 PM, Glenn wrote:


Please immediately send the time, date, and location of all general 
and committee meetings of the Clark Park Partnership to this public 
listserv and the local paper, the University City Review.   (Also send 
the agenda of the next meeting.)


Prepare for inspection, the minutes and attendance records for all 
past meetings of the Clark Park Partnership.  Prepare the work orders 
of the landscape "treatments" applied to Clark Park over the past ten 
years and prepare to open the books of the Party for the Park.


Many talented local people will be able to help the  FOCP membership 
get to the truth about these chemicals and contractors, if we 
investigate with time tested procedures and principles.


Mr. Moyer





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Re: [UC] New chemical burns visible

[Glenn]

On 6/21/2011 9:46 PM, Anthony West wrote:
That's one of the things we're working on these days. 


Please immediately send the time, date, and location of all general and 
committee meetings of the Clark Park Partnership to this public listserv 
and the local paper, the University City Review.   (Also send the agenda 
of the next meeting.)


Prepare for inspection, the minutes and attendance records for all past 
meetings of the Clark Park Partnership.  Prepare the work orders of the 
landscape "treatments" applied to Clark Park over the past ten years and 
prepare to open the books of the Party for the Park.


Many talented local people will be able to help the  FOCP membership get 
to the truth about these chemicals and contractors, if we investigate 
with time tested procedures and principles.


Mr. Moyer

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Re: [UC] New chemical burns visible

[Anthony West]

You're right about both of these areas. FoCP has reported them to the 
engineers who did the work.


As it happens, neither your initial explanation nor their initial 
explanation was totally satisfying. We especially note that straight 
"trench" shape. Doesn't look much like EITHER a sunbeam OR a herbicide 
administration, does it? So you're both wrong, at least in part.


Typically, in the aftermath of a big construction project, there are 
localized problems. That's one of the things we're working on these days.


-- Tony West



On 6/21/2011 9:25 PM, Glenn wrote:
There are several new and bizarre yellow chemical areas which have 
become visible in Clark Park A.  As the burned area previously 
reported is filling in, new areas look like the lines and crop circles 
made by space aliens.  One is only two feet wide and runs for a dozen 
or more meters.  Another is a perfect circle.



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[UC] New chemical burns visible

[Glenn]

There are several new and bizarre yellow chemical areas which have 
become visible in Clark Park A.  As the burned area previously reported 
is filling in, new areas look like the lines and crop circles made by 
space aliens.  One is only two feet wide and runs for a dozen or more 
meters.  Another is a perfect circle.  It's a total withering and 
yellowing immediately adjacent to thick Frankenstein grass.


Look around the area of the former volleyball court loved by people from 
around the world (1983-2010, RIP).



Considering the amount of time since the herbicide was last applied and 
today, I think we are seeing the evidence of the long period of killing 
potential!  ( I doubt that anyone ever believed the Tony West/landscape 
architect explanation about dry soil causing these bizarre burns.  Dry 
soil-haha.)


 I did most of my research on RoundUp two years ago, but I recall 
reports of finding intact chemical long after the initial application, 
if the right conditions bury the chemical as we've had in Clark Park 
recently.  (The yellowing is also visible just outside of the mulch 
circles around trees which had their roots soaked.)



Also:  Here is an important article about ocean death studies.  You may 
have seen the earlier report about the death in the Gulf of Mexico 
largely caused by these "organic" nitrogen fertilizers.  It's tragically 
hilarious that UCD/FOCP thinks it can hose us with claims about "organic 
fertilizer" now that its herbicide got a bad reputation among upscale 
consumers.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/20/ipso-2011-ocean-report-mass-extinction_n_880656.html


Pray for the children,
Glenn
PS: Sam and I are heading back to Boston.  Stay cleaner and safer while 
we're back home!









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