browserBeforeNavigate isn't sent (now and then)

[Slava Paperno]

The Web page in a revBrowser instance on the card has this:

div onclick="this.className='highlightedEntry';
window.location='#?RecNum=450'" /div

When the user clicks the div, the window.location clause triggers the
browserBeforeNavigate message to be sent to the stack; the className change
highlights the div.

This works 95% of the time. When it fails, I know from the "on
browserBeforeNavigate" handler that the message hasn't been sent--the
handler is not called. The handler is in the card script.

The failure happens in the IDE and in standalones in Windows and Mac OS X.
It seems entirely random: I launch the standalone twenty times, and the
click produces the expected results about 19 times out of 20. My only
recourse is to close the app and re-launch it.

Since the browserBeforeNavigate  message isn't sent, and since I know from
the highlighting that the click has registered, I don't know where I can
insert any diagnostic check.

My only hope is that someone who has used revBrowser a lot has seen this and
has a suggestion.

Thanks!

Slava



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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Andrew Kluthe]

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ 

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Re: Behavior not working??

[André Bisseret]

Bonjour Bob,

Good advice!

That happened to me several times when assigning behaviors from the message 
box, because generally I set the behavior of THIS cd to the long id etc.
Not always but sometimes I think to set the behavior of cd "n" of stack 
"suchstack" which avoids the error ;-)

André

Le 28 juil. 2011 à 19:56, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> I think I know what happened. I may have has a window open from the 
> unmentioned plugin when I issued the command to set the behavior. I may have 
> inadvertently set the behavior of the plugin's open card to that of my own 
> button! ACK! I can simply reinstall a copy of the plugin. 
> 
or set the behavior of cd n of the plugin to empty

> Note to everyone then, be sure you have selected what you think you have 
> selected before willy nilly assigning behaviors. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> NVM I removed a suspected plugin which shall remain nameless and behaviors 
>> seem to be working again. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all. 
>>> 
>>> I set the behavior of a card to the long id of a button on the first card 
>>> of a stack. In that button I have an openCard handler. At first it worked 
>>> famously, but now when I call openCard from the message box on the card 
>>> with the behavior set, I get an error that it cannot find the handler 
>>> openCard. I put the behavior of the card in the message box and it is 
>>> indeed set to the long ID of that button, but for whatever reason the 
>>> behavior is not getting triggered. 
>>> 
>>> I set the behavior of the card to empty and then back to the behavior of 
>>> the button, but no joy. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>> 
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Re: memory, buffered images and closed stacks (and groups?)

[Nicolas Cueto]

> 1) Set the 'destroyStack' property of the stack to true. WHen it closes, it 
> should be purged from memory.
> 2) Issue the "delete stack " command, but BE CAREFUL!!! - if 
>  is a *substack*, the stack will ACTUALLY BE DELETED; if the stack 
> is a *mainstack*, it will close the stack and remove it from memory. (I tend 
> to use something like "if the mainstack of  = the short name of 
>  then delete stack ".)
>
> The way you can test is to look at "the mainstacks" if the name of the 
> stack is no longer in "the mainstacks", then it has been closed and purged 
> from memory.

Thanks Ken. Tried your suggestions. The game stack doesn't appear in
the mainstacks, its destroyStack is true, and I do a "delete stack"
even though mainstacks doesn't list the game stack.

And yet, memory values after the game stack has  been confirmed as
closed are 2000 to 3000 K larger than when the game stack was first
opened.

So, I'm still wondering if this memory discrepancy is connected to my
stack crashing immediately before using the command "group" after the
game stack has been re-opened.

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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Shao Sean]

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac  
Only. :\


They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the  
software is aware it is running on a Mac..


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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Chipp Walters]

Yep. We wrote the first XCMD/Xtra for TCP/IP for Director. It was called
XtraNet. Macromedia tried to buy it from us.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> I know, I tried to do it myself in the early 90s. TCP/IP on the mac was
> quite unreliable.
>
> On 28 July 2011 15:00, Chipp Walters  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser (
> > http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm
> > don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting
> for
> > it!
> >
>
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco Ca. USA
>
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AW: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Thanks Pete, that's what I tried to say
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Haworth
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2011 19:02
> An: How to use LiveCode
> Betreff: Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
> 
> This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who
> do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their
> applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology.  Sounds
> like they will provide a "hard copy" method to upgrade eventually.
> 
> Pete
> 


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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Hyberson Pereira]

Would LiveCode for iOS work in such an environment?



On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 05:14, Shao Sean  wrote:

> I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\
>>
>
> They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software
> is aware it is running on a Mac..
>
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Is Apple going to allow this?

[William de Smet]

Hi there, 

I am thinking of using an iMac (with no Apple logo) vector image in the splash 
screen of my first iOS app. Is Apple going to allow this? Or is it better to 
you use a more 'standard' monitor?

Greetings,

William

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Re: Is Apple going to allow this?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi William,

I've heard about apps that have been rejected because pictures of iPhones were 
included. Apple may not accept any picture of an existing device, be it phone, 
computer, monitor, or bicycle. I'd use a picture that's clearly drawn rather 
than photographed and doesn't resemble a device of any existing brand. Then 
again... with Apple you never know. Just try it, the worst case scenario is 
only an additional week's delay due to a rejection.

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On 29 jul 2011, at 13:57, William de Smet wrote:

> Hi there, 
> 
> I am thinking of using an iMac (with no Apple logo) vector image in the 
> splash screen of my first iOS app. Is Apple going to allow this? Or is it 
> better to you use a more 'standard' monitor?
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> William


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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Andre Garzia]

OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-)

this google chrome experience with them is incredible :-)

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> No doubt.
>
> Years and years ago when I was using SuperCard, I was developing an app
> called CyberRave that was designed to mimic (as best as one could at that
> time) the experience of being at club, hearing dance music, and seeing some
> simple effects on your screen (background image changes, simulated laser
> lights, etc).  I was also doing a stint with the HI group in Apple's
> eWorld,
> and we concocted a way to hook CyberRave up to eWorld's live chat services,
> where special chat commands would trigger the effects on connected systems.
> We set up our first rave in house, got the music going, and started sending
> chat messages back and forth. It lasted maybe a minute before crashing.
>  But
> it was awesome.
>
> One of the features in CyberRave was a video wall, where a small QuickTime
> movie could be made to play cloned across a 16x16 grid, or the single movie
> occupying the entire grid.  Seeing the OKGO multi-window experience brought
> back fond memories of doing almost exactly the same thing around 15 years
> ago...
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
>
>
>
> Recently, Phil Davis wrote:
>
> > It sort of reaches the "magic" level for me! At some point I quit
> thinking,
> > "How
> > is it doing that?" and just took it in. Grinning and shaking my head.
> >
> > Phil Davis
> >
> >
> > On 7/28/11 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
> >> Requires Google Chrome:
> >>
> >> http://www.allisnotlo.st/
> >>
> >> (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.)
> >>
> >> I think I actually said "OMG" out loud when I first saw this.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Scott Rossi
> >> Creative Director
> >> Tactile Media, UX Design
> >>
> >>
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[ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34

[Björnke von Gierke]

Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All 
applicants welcome.

I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2. 

Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to 
http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ 
or enter in the message box:
go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev”

Sat. 22:00 Moscow
Sat. 14:00 New York
Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles
Sun. 2:00 Beijing

See http://livecode.tv/ for more info.

Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months or 
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Re: [ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34

[John Craig]

Hi, Björnke.  I sent a mail from my phone earlier, but it was acting a 
bit wierd, so I don't know if it really sent.

I can present tomorrow if still required.


John.


On 29/07/2011 13:57, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All 
applicants welcome.

I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2.

Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to
http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/
or enter in the message box:
go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev”

Sat. 22:00 Moscow
Sat. 14:00 New York
Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles
Sun. 2:00 Beijing

See http://livecode.tv/ for more info.

Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months or 
right now.
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Re: [ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34

[Björnke von Gierke]

yes, i got it, answered offlist.

On 29 Jul 2011, at 15:54, John Craig wrote:

> Hi, Björnke.  I sent a mail from my phone earlier, but it was acting a bit 
> wierd, so I don't know if it really sent.
> I can present tomorrow if still required.
> 
> 
> John.
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2011 13:57, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
>> Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All 
>> applicants welcome.
>> 
>> I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2.
>> 
>> Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to
>> http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/
>> or enter in the message box:
>> go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev”
>> 
>> Sat. 22:00 Moscow
>> Sat. 14:00 New York
>> Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles
>> Sun. 2:00 Beijing
>> 
>> See http://livecode.tv/ for more info.
>> 
>> Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months 
>> or right now.
>> Björnke
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Richard Gaskin]

Andre Garzia wrote:


OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-)


My friend and neighbor worked on the crew for that video, one of the 
happy cheering faces in the loft above the band near the end.  The pile 
of smashed TVs in the background barely tells the story of how difficult 
it was to make; more telling is the exhausted look on the band members' 
faces.  IIRC he told me that the final take we see in that video 
happened around 3:30AM after many dozens of takes, each one requiring 
all of the elements to be reset (note the amount of paint on their 
splash suits at the start of the video).


As much as I appreciate the technical flourish of the Chrome app, I'm 
even more impressed by the low-tech Rube Goldberg machine they set up 
for that video.  Now *that's* ingenuity.


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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Roger Eller]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Shao Sean wrote:

> I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\
>>
>
> They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software
> is aware it is running on a Mac..
>
>
True, the software would not know the difference, but the user definitely
would because it would be prohibitively slow "in a vm".  I googled
"tonymac", and found that people apparently are running directly on i5 and
i7 machines with the OS installed directly from purchased retail install
media.  Due to Apple licensing restrictions, one can't use such a system in
a business, but it is quite interesting what is technically possible.
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Pierre Sahores]

The way was to handle TCP/IP trough MacOS 8 + WebSTAR 3 <--TCP AppleEvent 
sockets translator --> HC 2.4.1 hand made standalone server app (via Resedit, 
if i right remember...). Worked in single thread mode only because the OS and 
HC architectures ! ... Went to Linux, Apache and Metacard cgi because those 
limitations and because i did't trust in the WebObjects, ColdFusion and Visual 
Cafe first public versions i brought... ;-)

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 00:51, stephen barncard a écrit :

> I know, I tried to do it myself in the early 90s. TCP/IP on the mac was
> quite unreliable.
> 
> On 28 July 2011 15:00, Chipp Walters  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser (
>> http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm
>> don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for
>> it!
>> 
> 
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco Ca. USA
> 
> more about sqb  
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RE: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Lynn Fredricks]

> If I recall, HyperCard was called an "erector set" for Mac users, not 
> necessarily programmers, and indeed used mostly by non-professional 
> programmers. There was also an Xcmd for Valentina -- yes, I started 
> using Valentina database with HyperCard -- and it worked really well 
> but Valentina was not network based then.

The depths of time :-)

Valentina DB started out originally as a C++ library for Mac OS back in
1998, after several years of advanced R&D by Ruslan (o, CodeWarrior!).
The XCMD format was so well established then, and several products on the
market supported that. There were a lot of really cool externals around back
then, some of which were made by folks who are here yet today.


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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Pierre Sahores]

Extra ! Thanks for the link, Scott :-)

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 03:18, Scott Rossi a écrit :

> Requires Google Chrome:
> 
> http://www.allisnotlo.st/
> 
> (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.)
> 
> I think I actually said "OMG" out loud when I first saw this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
> 
> 
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user?

[Richard Gaskin]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:


Thinking about inventive users and open source software...

When I first read about the Open Source movement,
I though that it was a group of developers that
wanted to create software in the same way that an
artist creates his work:

A lasting work of art that trascend time
because of his many outstanding and
unique qualities...

Hmmm, looks like I was wrong in my first impression
about Open source, but just in case:

Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic
qualities in Open Source software?


That's a very thoughtful question, Alejandro.  I'm certainly no FOSS 
expert, and perhaps Mark Weider or David Bovill can contribute more 
concretely here, but that didn't stop me from writing my own offhand 
thoughts on this.  ;)


As sometimes happens during my morning coffee, that got a bit lengthy 
for this list, so out of respect for the readers' bandwidth here in this 
OT thread I posted it to the LiveCode Journal blog:




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Re: Where does survive the inventive user?

[Pierre Sahores]

If we believe that technical design can be arts relevant (my case,...), 
sailboats, cars or information's systems can be arts relevant ;-) it's probably 
why the Alan's Turing works gave the binary coding paradigm to computers, 
because why the Linus Torwalds initiative gave us Linux, because why John Mc 
Carty LISP, because the elegance of PostgresQL where Oracle is just a big sad 
truck..., because technical skills mainly serves visions and not the inverse...

Even if xtalk is not open-source, the non technical guys whose invented xtalk, 
Metacard and LiveCode and we, the xtalk dev community are dependent from the 
open-source tools we are binding to our LC solutions. It's at least my case and 
i'm every day graceful about this.

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 08:10, Alejandro Tejada a écrit :

> Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic
> qualities in Open Source software?

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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Warren Samples]

On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote:
> it would be prohibitively slow "in a vm"

Roger, 

Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience running 
VirtualBox is that the guest OSs 
run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS for 
development purposes because 
certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm won't 
provide. That said, for many 
purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very 
usable and useful indeed. 

Best,

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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Alejandro Tejada]

>From the archives:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Human+Code+Unveils+XtraNet+Technology+Enabling+Shockwave+Applications...-a018567832


Chipp Walters wrote:
> 
> Yep. We wrote the first XCMD/Xtra for TCP/IP for Director. It was called
> XtraNet. Macromedia tried to buy it from us.
> 


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Re: A way to get LC out of the way

[Bob Sneidar]

I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It sounds 
like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the older copy 
with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one. 

There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name because 
it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding checkbox is 
Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack will still leave 
it in memory, so that any future reference to it will reopen it. 

I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I would 
reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one stack with 
another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if that doesn't 
help. 

Bob


On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm struggling; maybe I should say "fighting" with LC. I have an app in which 
> I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In the 
> process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the one 
> that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After a 
> while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real effort. 
> Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, I would 
> be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do it in this 
> case too, but the small one is never seen.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Joe Wilkins
> 
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Re: Behavior not working??

[Bob Sneidar]

unless the plugin itself uses behaviors, which since I don't know, replacing is 
probably the best strategy. This is why I always copy downloads to their 
appropriate location instead of moving them. 

Bob


On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:37 AM, André Bisseret wrote:

> or set the behavior of cd n of the plugin to empty


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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Pierre Sahores]

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 16:24, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

> Andre Garzia wrote:
> 
>> OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-)
> 
> My friend and neighbor worked on the crew for that video, one of the happy 
> cheering faces in the loft above the band near the end.  The pile of smashed 
> TVs in the background barely tells the story of how difficult it was to make; 
> more telling is the exhausted look on the band members' faces.  IIRC he told 
> me that the final take we see in that video happened around 3:30AM after many 
> dozens of takes, each one requiring all of the elements to be reset (note the 
> amount of paint on their splash suits at the start of the video).
> 
> As much as I appreciate the technical flourish of the Chrome app, I'm even 
> more impressed by the low-tech Rube Goldberg machine they set up for that 
> video.  Now *that's* ingenuity.

and still so refreshing ;-)
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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Bob Sneidar]

Mine is stuck at 97%. PAR!

Bob

On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Requires Google Chrome:
> 
> http://www.allisnotlo.st/
> 
> (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.)
> 
> I think I actually said "OMG" out loud when I first saw this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 
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Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness

[Bob Sneidar]

Finally worked! Cool.

On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Requires Google Chrome:
> 
> http://www.allisnotlo.st/
> 
> (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.)
> 
> I think I actually said "OMG" out loud when I first saw this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> Creative Director
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> 
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Re: A way to get LC out of the way

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Thanks Bob. I had been diddling around with exactly those features when I have 
managed to make the substitution, but felt a little uneasy that the Destroy 
Stack might be messing me up in ways that I didn't realize. The name IS 
unfortunate as you mentioned. Actually, I have an even more exasperating 
"trial" to deal with. I want to reassemble my program using the existing 
stacks, but there appears to be no way to severe LC's strangle-hold on things. 
I'd love to be able to create a new program by dragging copies of the existing 
stacks over to a new folder and establishing "new" relationships amongst them, 
but LC is insistent on maintaining the "old" relationships. I'd like to change 
the standalone application settings of this "new" relationship. So far I have 
been unsuccessful; just spinning my wheels doing things over and over again.

Regardless, Thanks. If anyone has a clue as to how this last approach may be 
accomplished I would love to hear about it.

Joe Wilkins

On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It sounds 
> like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the older 
> copy with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one. 
> 
> There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name 
> because it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding 
> checkbox is Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack 
> will still leave it in memory, so that any future reference to it will reopen 
> it. 
> 
> I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I would 
> reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one stack with 
> another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if that 
> doesn't help. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I'm struggling; maybe I should say "fighting" with LC. I have an app in 
>> which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In 
>> the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the 
>> one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After 
>> a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real 
>> effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, 
>> I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do 
>> it in this case too, but the small one is never seen.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Joe Wilkins


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Re: Where does survive the inventive user?

[Bob Sneidar]

I have a saying: If everyone can do it, it's not art. And even if only a few 
can do it, it's still not art!

Bob


On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> If we believe that technical design can be arts relevant (my case,...), 
> sailboats, cars or information's systems can be arts relevant ;-) it's 
> probably why the Alan's Turing works gave the binary coding paradigm to 
> computers, because why the Linus Torwalds initiative gave us Linux, because 
> why John Mc Carty LISP, because the elegance of PostgresQL where Oracle is 
> just a big sad truck..., because technical skills mainly serves visions and 
> not the inverse...
> 
> Even if xtalk is not open-source, the non technical guys whose invented 
> xtalk, Metacard and LiveCode and we, the xtalk dev community are dependent 
> from the open-source tools we are binding to our LC solutions. It's at least 
> my case and i'm every day graceful about this.
> 
> Le 29 juil. 2011 à 08:10, Alejandro Tejada a écrit :
> 
>> Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic
>> qualities in Open Source software?
> 
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[David C.]

I've been trying to refrain from some of these posts with the thought
that maybe I've been to negative sounding recently... However, in
light of this:


...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app
interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) 

Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of
software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can
to remedy that.

I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way.

Best regards,
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[Richard Gaskin]

David C. wrote:


...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app
interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) 

Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of
software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can
to remedy that.

I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way.


The irony here is that Apple themselves feels the same way:  while 
iTunes may be where Apple requires you to get your apps, the iTunes app 
itself doesn't conform to Apple's own HIG substantially enough to allow 
it to be submitted to the App Store. ;)


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Re: Where does survive the inventive user?

[Pierre Sahores]

"The artistry of open source may be subtle, but it's pervasive." - Sir Richard 
Gaskin -

;-)

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 17:51, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

> Alejandro Tejada wrote:
> 
>> Thinking about inventive users and open source software...
>> 
>> When I first read about the Open Source movement,
>> I though that it was a group of developers that
>> wanted to create software in the same way that an
>> artist creates his work:
>> 
>> A lasting work of art that trascend time
>> because of his many outstanding and
>> unique qualities...
>> 
>> Hmmm, looks like I was wrong in my first impression
>> about Open source, but just in case:
>> 
>> Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic
>> qualities in Open Source software?
> 
> That's a very thoughtful question, Alejandro.  I'm certainly no FOSS expert, 
> and perhaps Mark Weider or David Bovill can contribute more concretely here, 
> but that didn't stop me from writing my own offhand thoughts on this.  ;)
> 
> As sometimes happens during my morning coffee, that got a bit lengthy for 
> this list, so out of respect for the readers' bandwidth here in this OT 
> thread I posted it to the LiveCode Journal blog:
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Roger Eller]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Samples wrote:

> On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote:
> > it would be prohibitively slow "in a vm"
>
> Roger,
>
> Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience
> running VirtualBox is that the guest OSs
> run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS
> for development purposes because
> certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm
> won't provide. That said, for many
> purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very
> usable and useful indeed.
>
> Best,
>
> Warren
>
>
A few years ago, I remember seeing a video of Leopard running in a vm, maybe
even Snow Leopard. It could not utilise quartz/core graphics, and the
hard-drive was not a real partition, there was no 3D acceleration or access
to the video card, so it made the overall system appear slow.  But according
to what the tonymac people are saying, it doesn't have to be this way. They
seem to now have it running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end
video cards.
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[Warren Samples]

On Friday, July 29, 2011 11:44:11 AM David C. wrote:
> ...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app
> interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) 
> 
> Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of
> software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can
> to remedy that.
> 
> I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way.
> 
> Best regards,
> David C.


I almost never used iTunes when I ran OS X. It wasn't my preferred application 
for anything and I was never 
interested in the store. Since the vast majority of the requent updates to 
iTunes focused on the store, I 
eventually tried to get software update to ignore those updates. To no avail. 
Software update refused to honor 
that request. It was the only update that refused to be ignored. 

Best,

Warren

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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Warren Samples]

On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote:
> running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end
> video cards.


The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X 
not to run beautifully on non-
Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome, but 
the question was regarding 
performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of 
slowness running any OS inside a 
virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed by 
the OP, and am very disturbed by 
the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided 
paying what are legitimate fees, but 
my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of statement 
you make presents unwarranted 
discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and 
convenient tool for certain 
purposes.

What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to 
implement this if he cannot 
also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum, "Here 
fishy fishy..."


Best,

Warren

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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Hyberson Pereira]

Warren,

*"What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP
propose to implement this if he cannot also test it?"*


Unfortunately at the moment I cannot meet the
requirementsto
test the setup, for I don't have the hardware or the software to do
that.

That's exactly why I posted at this forum. If I come to the conclusion that
the setup works, I will invest some money in hardware and software.

Please notice that I did not propose to implement anything.

Best regards,

Hyberson



On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 14:53, Warren Samples  wrote:

> On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote:
> > running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end
> > video cards.
>
>
> The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS
> X not to run beautifully on non-
> Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome,
> but the question was regarding
> performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of
> slowness running any OS inside a
> virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed
> by the OP, and am very disturbed by
> the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided
> paying what are legitimate fees, but
> my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of
> statement you make presents unwarranted
> discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful
> and convenient tool for certain
> purposes.
>
> What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP
> propose to implement this if he cannot
> also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum,
> "Here fishy fishy..."
>
>
> Best,
>
> Warren
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Re: Behavior not working??

[André Bisseret]

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 18:28, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> unless the plugin itself uses behaviors,

OOuuups ! yes!  your are right indeed!I did not think to this possibilitty 
André
> which since I don't know, replacing is probably the best strategy. This is 
> why I always copy downloads to their appropriate location instead of moving 
> them. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:37 AM, André Bisseret wrote:
> 
>> or set the behavior of cd n of the plugin to empty
> 
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[David C.]

> I almost never used iTunes when I ran OS X. It wasn't my preferred 
> application for anything and I was never
> interested in the store. Since the vast majority of the requent updates to 
> iTunes focused on the store, I
> eventually tried to get software update to ignore those updates. To no avail. 
> Software update refused to honor
> that request. It was the only update that refused to be ignored.
>
> Best,
>
> Warren

After trying iTunes early on, I hardly ever used it at all.. and in
fact avoided it up until I purchased the original iPhone, which I
still use.
Now I have a ton of songs and media that I'm stuck with for the most
part. Been buying nothing but MP3's from Amazon for the last year or
so, but still don't want to give up all that I've invested in from
Apple.

Best regards,
David C.

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Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.

[Roger Eller]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Warren Samples wrote:

> On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote:
> > running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end
> > video cards.
>
>
> The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS
> X not to run beautifully on non-
> Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are
> overcome...


Agreed.


> I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted
> discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful
> and convenient tool for certain
> purposes.
>

As I stated, the only vm of OS X that I have seen was 'years' ago.  If it
has been improved, and you find it useful, that is great news!  I sincerely
hope Apple someday will encourage everyone to buy a copy.  I think
eventually, they will.  I only discourage using without paying.


>
> Best,
>
> Warren
>
>
~Roger
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[OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA

[stephen barncard]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470

In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator!
Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all.  yeah, right.

George Orwell  (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this.

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Re: A way to get LC out of the way

[stephen barncard]

Joe, you have run into the namespace issue. One way around it is to
run *multiple
instances* of Livecode. If you have ever seen any of Trevor's presentations,
you will see three or four Livecode app icons at the bottom of his screens.
And he has recommended this method.

 It was mentioned on this forum that it is possible to cut and paste between
instances.

The hardest thing to do would be to keep the different instances straight.
 You can rename the app package of some of the secondary instances but not
sure if that shows up in the dock icons.

On 29 July 2011 09:42, Joe Lewis Wilkins  wrote:

> Thanks Bob. I had been diddling around with exactly those features when I
> have managed to make the substitution, but felt a little uneasy that the
> Destroy Stack might be messing me up in ways that I didn't realize. The name
> IS unfortunate as you mentioned. Actually, I have an even more exasperating
> "trial" to deal with. I want to reassemble my program using the existing
> stacks, but there appears to be no way to severe LC's strangle-hold on
> things. I'd love to be able to create a new program by dragging copies of
> the existing stacks over to a new folder and establishing "new"
> relationships amongst them, but LC is insistent on maintaining the "old"
> relationships. I'd like to change the standalone application settings of
> this "new" relationship. So far I have been unsuccessful; just spinning my
> wheels doing things over and over again.
>
> Regardless, Thanks. If anyone has a clue as to how this last approach may
> be accomplished I would love to hear about it.
>
> Joe Wilkins
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>
> > I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It
> sounds like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the
> older copy with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one.
> >
> > There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name
> because it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding
> checkbox is Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack
> will still leave it in memory, so that any future reference to it will
> reopen it.
> >
> > I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I
> would reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one
> stack with another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if
> that doesn't help.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I'm struggling; maybe I should say "fighting" with LC. I have an app in
> which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In
> the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the
> one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After
> a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real
> effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs,
> I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do
> it in this case too, but the small one is never seen.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Joe Wilkins
>
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[François Chaplais]

If I understand well, you will not need iTunes (or even a computer) on your iOS 
devices when IOS 5 will be (soon) released.  After that, your mac (I am not 
sure about other platforms) will be at the same level as the IOS devices as far 
as data storage, synchronization is concerned.
It was announced in the last Apple keynote, I think.
Best regards,
François
Le 28 juil. 2011 à 18:21, J. Landman Gay a écrit :

> On 7/28/11 4:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>> I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices,
> 
> What do you use? I'm tired of hooking up to iTunes for everything. In 
> particular, I want to move test standalones to the device.
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Re: [OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA

[François Chaplais]

wrong metrics.
You'd better look at China's reserves in dollars.

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 21:08, stephen barncard a écrit :

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470
> 
> In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator!
> Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all.  yeah, right.
> 
> George Orwell  (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this.
> 
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Re: [OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA

[Bob Sneidar]

Who's throwing the sledge hammer now Steve?? LOL ;-)

As all benevolent dictators learn, they have to hurt some people to get 
everyone to see how great their way really is. You have to silence the 
detractors, especially the more successful they are. 



Bob


On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:08 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470
> 
> In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator!
> Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all.  yeah, right.
> 
> George Orwell  (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> San Francisco Ca. USA
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[J. Landman Gay]

On 7/29/11 3:24 PM, François Chaplais wrote:

If I understand well, you will not need iTunes (or even a computer)
on your iOS devices when IOS 5 will be (soon) released.  After that,
your mac (I am not sure about other platforms) will be at the same
level as the IOS devices as far as data storage, synchronization is
concerned.


I have mixed feelings about putting my data in the cloud. But it doesn't 
matter, I've already solved it. It turns out to be pretty easy to set up 
your own server/wi-fi solution and I've automated it for use as a 
LiveCode plugin. When it is tested and prettied up a little bit I'll 
release it to the community. It works with any server and with Dropbox, 
and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it.


Now that I've done it, I'm not surprised that there are so many similar 
solutions in the App Store. It took me an hour to write, anyone could do it.


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Re: stackfiles -- how to use?

[Phil Davis]

Hi Nicolas,

Coming late to the party... For an example of what 'the stackfiles' look like, 
open the IDE message box and type"


put the stackfiles of stack "home"

Phil Davis


On 7/24/11 7:42 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

Hello,

Apologies for the length of this, but I'd very much like list help to
understand better a scripting practice I've been doing half-baked for
a long time now.

It has to do with stackFiles (I think?), the steps for implementing
which I describe below, but first precede with an outline of what I'm
after.


Essentially, this is the structure of my standalone and stacks:

AllMightyStack.exe -->  Index-stack.livecode -->  gamestacks1-8.livecode


The role of  AllMightyStack.exe:
-- opens up Index-stack.livecode
-- stays open but hidden in background
-- (most importantly!) contains handlers/functions and global
variables  -- but no controls/objects -- that can be called by the
index-stack and each of the gamestacks simply by name (ie, without
having to specify a path)

The role of Index-stack.rev:
-- shows the user some buttons, clicking which opens up one of the
various gamestacks
-- stays open but hidden in background, so that, when a gamestack is
done with, the user returns to Index-stack to either choose a
different gamestack or quit
-- does not contain handlers or controls referenced to by any other stack


To do the above, here are my steps:

STEP 1) place the following script in card 1 of AllMightyStack.exe:

on openCard
setUpFoundation
end openCard

on setUpFoundation
put "Index-stack,Index-stack.rev"&  cr&  "game1,game1.rev"&  cr&  \
"game2,game2.rev"&  cr&  &  cr&  "animationEngine,animationEngine.rev" \
into tStackFiles
set the stackFiles of stack "Mainstack.exe" to tStackFiles
...
open stack "Index-stack"
hide stack "Mainstack"
end setUpFoundation



STEP 2) in Livecode open the property-inspector for stack
"AllMightyStack.rev" and then in the "Stack files" panel add
Index-Stack and all the game-stacks. After which, I save as a
standalone.


STEP 3) repeat the above two steps for Index-stack.rev


Anyway, I'm guessing I don't need to do STEP 3. But now I'm also
guessing STEP 2 is superfluous. Or is it?

Of course, I've read the documentation. But...


Hope that all makes sense.

Thank you -- for your help and forbearance.

--
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iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?

[John Patten]

Hi All!

I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to  
insert the new record but it returns a revdberr too.


The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated  
incrementally.


put "INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem,  
tradeeitem) VALUES (" & "'" & tTradeeID & "'" &  "," &  "'" &  
tPlayerID & "'" & "," & "'" & tMyItem & "'" &  "," &  "'" &   
tTheirItem & "'"  & ")"   into tSQL



It works but still returns the short "revdberr" message... I have  
another irev file, and update, that does the same kind of thing. It  
works, but returns an error.


put "UPDATE location SET xcoord='" & txcoord & "', ycoord='" & tycoord  
& "' WHERE id='" & tTargetID & "'"  into tSQL



Anything jump out a miss? Wondering why it would be a successful query  
either creating a new record or updating and existing record but still  
return an error???


Thank you!

John Patten
SUSD



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EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player

[Admin]

  

In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by
pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled
it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper
filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on
the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing.

Is
there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file
requesters from a revlet?

Here is my
code:

=

# Start by getting the file to
upload
local tFileForUpload, tFileName
answer file "Select a file to
upload" with filter "Video Files,*.avi;*.mpg;*.mp4;*.mov;*.wmv"
put it
into tFileForUpload

# Get the name of the file for upload
set the
itemdel to "/"
put the last item of tFileForUpload into tFileName
put
empty into field "fldVidLink"

# Connect the start the upload
local
tDestination
put "http://www."; & "travelandworkusa.com" &FilePath
&tFileName into tFieldDest
put "ftp://"; & FTPUSER & ":" & FTPPASS & "@"
& "ftp.travelandworkusa.com" &FilePath & tFileName into
tDestination
libURLSetStatusCallback "uploadProgress", the long ID of
me
put the long ID of me into progressmeter
libURLftpUploadFile
tFileForUpload, tDestination, "uploadComplete"
put tFieldDest into field
"fldVidLink"
end mouseUp

on uploadComplete pURL, pStatus
put "Status
Update:" && pStatus && return after field "lblProgress"
end
uploadComplete

on uploadProgress pURL, pStatus
put "Status Update:" &&
pStatus && return before field "lblProgress"
--set the thumbpos of sb
"prgScrollBar" to progressmeter
end
uploadProgress

=

Anything
wrong with this as it pertains to FTPing to the server from a local file
- from the context of a revlet online?

After going through it, it's the
FILE REQUESTER that is not working for me. I can FTP fine. I included
ALL the libraries in the stand alone settings, just in case.

So, does
anyone know why the file requester would not come up in a revlet? How
can I fix this - it's MAJOR for me to fix this.

Thanks.

Mike Felker


P.S. Ken, a very nice gentleman from Sons of Thunder Software helped
me out on the phone and was able to make some of this work on the Mac,
but pretty much everything I experienced he did as well. 
  
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[Mark Wieder]

Jacque-

Friday, July 29, 2011, 1:58:48 PM, you wrote:

> It works with any server and with Dropbox,
> and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it.

Sweet! Want.

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Re: LC 4.6.3 on Linux

[Mark Wieder]

Richmond-

Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:12:33 PM, you wrote:

> So; downloaded the Linux version, and after install on Ubuntu 11.04 got a
> "setting defaults" message that made me, finally, kill the thing, having
> gone away,

Don't know about Unbuntu, but on Fedora Core 13 4.6.3 just installed
the usual way and is happily being a part of my system.

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Re: iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?

[Dave Cragg]

On 30 Jul 2011, at 00:28, John Patten wrote:

> Hi All!
> 
> I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to insert the 
> new record but it returns a revdberr too.
> 
> The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated incrementally.
> 
> put "INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem, tradeeitem) 
> VALUES (" & "'" & tTradeeID & "'" &  "," &  "'" & tPlayerID & "'" & "," & "'" 
> & tMyItem & "'" &  "," &  "'" &  tTheirItem & "'"  & ")"   into tSQL

Just a guess, but are the fields "sendtoid" and "traderid" integer fields. If 
so, the values shouldn't be quoted.

Dave
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Re: LC 4.6.3 on Linux

[Jeff Massung]

I'm running Fedora 15 and it appears to be just fine. But I also haven't
tried doing much with it lately.

Jeff M.
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[J. Landman Gay]

On 7/29/11 7:25 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Friday, July 29, 2011, 1:58:48 PM, you wrote:


It works with any server and with Dropbox,
and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it.


Sweet! Want.



No sweat. Give me the weekend to fix it up.

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Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player

[Ken Ray]

> In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by
> pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled
> it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper
> filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on
> the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing.
> 
> Is
> there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file
> requesters from a revlet?

Actually let me clarify - when I was working with Mike it *worked*, but only on 
certain browsers; for example it worked fine in Safari/Mac, but didn't work at 
all in Firefox/Windows or Internet Explorer/Windows.

It's a simple "answer file", so it *should* work for everything, but I don't 
have much experience with revlets... does anyone know if "answer file" only 
works with certain browsers? If so, are there any workarounds?

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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Path to start using a stack in On-Rev?

[Bruce Pokras]

If the stack and irev HTML page are in the same folder, what is the path to the 
stack for the "start using" command? Is it simply:

start using stack "Test_Stack.livecode"

Or is it something more complicated than that? I am testing by putting a simple 
function called "respond" in the stack file's stack script, but so far no 
response in the .irev page when it is supposed to run the command "put 
respond()".

Am I missing something completely?

Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Kay C Lan]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> Renting application use out of a
> cloud would be the same has handing over your wallet to a stranger.
>

Which you already happily do right.

I look in my wallet an there are a couple of notes and a couple of plastic
cards. The notes represent about 0.01% of iMoney I have in my account. I can
use those plastic cards to access the BankCloud and if the strangers at the
Bank are willing, the machine will give me more real money on a 1 to 1
reduction of my iMoney. Sometimes I don't even have to change iMoney into
real money, I just go to the shop and transfer iMoney from my account to
their iMoney account which all resides in the same BankCloud. Of course I
have to pay a 'rental' fee for the privilege of being able to access my
iMoney at virtually any time or shop. But then again, if a stranger at the
bank goes all Nick Leeson on me, the bank will collapse and my iMoney in the
BankCloud will disappear like the early morning stratocumulus, leaving me
without any real money.

Strange what we think we'd never do.

Oh, and Tim Miller, I'm just another 'no professional' still with LC, I just
don't visit the LC List as often as I'd like because Life is getting more
and more complicated, Time is getting shorter and shorter, and between Life,
LiveCoding and reading the LiveCode Use List, reading the List is the one
I've had to sacrifice.

Actually two brand new brainwaves with associated stacks built in the last
two weeks and I've got another problem to solve today which undoubtedly will
involve a brand new stack.

Love LC :-)
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Re: iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?

[John Patten]

Ah! Thanks Dave! They are. I'll make the change and see if that helps.

John Patten
SUSD

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Dave Cragg  wrote:

> 
> On 30 Jul 2011, at 00:28, John Patten wrote:
> 
>> Hi All!
>> 
>> I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to insert the 
>> new record but it returns a revdberr too.
>> 
>> The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated 
>> incrementally.
>> 
>> put "INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem, tradeeitem) 
>> VALUES (" & "'" & tTradeeID & "'" &  "," &  "'" & tPlayerID & "'" & "," & 
>> "'" & tMyItem & "'" &  "," &  "'" &  tTheirItem & "'"  & ")"   into tSQL
> 
> Just a guess, but are the fields "sendtoid" and "traderid" integer fields. If 
> so, the values shouldn't be quoted.
> 
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Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player

[J. Landman Gay]

On 7/29/11 8:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by
pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and
labelled it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the
proper filters. Everything works great! However, when using the
same card on the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button
does nothing.

Is there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use
file requesters from a revlet?


Actually let me clarify - when I was working with Mike it *worked*,
but only on certain browsers; for example it worked fine in
Safari/Mac, but didn't work at all in Firefox/Windows or Internet
Explorer/Windows.

It's a simple "answer file", so it *should* work for everything, but
I don't have much experience with revlets... does anyone know if
"answer file" only works with certain browsers? If so, are there any
workarounds?


I haven't done much with revlets recently, but the two browsers you say 
don't work are the same two that don't work with any revlets at all for 
me. When they went to 64-bit, all my existing revlets refused to load.


I think "answer file" used to work everywhere back when we were all 
32-bit. There's an html fix for the loading problem, but that wouldn't 
help if "answer file" needs 32-bit. If you have older, 32-bit versions 
of those browsers, one of you could test.


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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Martin Blackman]

Kay echoes my sentiments, both with regards to time and appreciation of LC!
FWIW I'm a non-pro who found Rev when version 1 was given away on the front
of a computer mag, and once I got past  "where's the equivalent of a
writeline command??" and managed hello world I found the learning curve to
be pretty manageable.


On 30 July 2011 10:51, Kay C Lan  wrote:

> O
> Oh, and Tim Miller, I'm just another 'no professional' still with LC, I
> just
> don't visit the LC List as often as I'd like because Life is getting more
> and more complicated, Time is getting shorter and shorter, and between
> Life,
> LiveCoding and reading the LiveCode Use List, reading the List is the one
> I've had to sacrifice.
>
> Actually two brand new brainwaves with associated stacks built in the last
> two weeks and I've got another problem to solve today which undoubtedly
> will
> involve a brand new stack.
>
> Love LC :-)
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Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player

[Admin]

  

Yes, I was able to change the html auto-generated code to get IE to
load revlets. That's not the problem. 

I have random problems - some
can use it on Mac running Safari and others cannot (they can't even
click on a button) 

Random problems in IE and reliable problems with
attempting to open a file browser, which works on other browsers, but
the ftp commands don't seem to work at all. 

The stand-alone versions
work 100%. 

This is infuriating. 

Mike 

On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:50:53
-0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: 

> On 7/29/11 8:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
>

>>> In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by
pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled
it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper
filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on
the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing. Is
there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file
requesters from a revlet?
>> Actually let me clarify - when I was
working with Mike it *worked*, but only on certain browsers; for example
it worked fine in Safari/Mac, but didn't work at all in Firefox/Windows
or Internet Explorer/Windows. It's a simple "answer file", so it
*should* work for everything, but I don't have much experience with
revlets... does anyone know if "answer file" only works with certain
browsers? If so, are there any workarounds?
> 
> I haven't done much
with revlets recently, but the two browsers you say 
> don't work are
the same two that don't work with any revlets at all for 
> me. When
they went to 64-bit, all my existing revlets refused to load.
> 
> I
think "answer file" used to work everywhere back when we were all 
>
32-bit. There's an html fix for the loading problem, but that wouldn't

> help if "answer file" needs 32-bit. If you have older, 32-bit
versions 
> of those browsers, one of you could test.

  
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